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yomisei posted:Is it worth to go for a Supermicro X10SL7-F with its internal LSI SAS2308 controller instead of a dedicated card? Can it be passed through as well? Yeah that 2308 can pass through. I have one with FreeNAS using it.
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phosdex posted:Yeah that 2308 can pass through. I have one with FreeNAS using it. Cheers. Looks like it is the only available board for socket 1150 with any SAS controller at all, some others are announced but I can't find any of them on the consumer market.
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Cross posting from the Cert thread; http://professionalvmware.com/2014/03/buy-one-get-one-free-virtualization-books/ BOGO books Also about to stand up and run through a lab of migrating from XenServer/XenDesktop to Xendesktop on VMware. If anyone wants I can do running updates to the thread. Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Mar 25, 2014 |
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mutantbandgeek posted:So I guess now is as good of time as any to invest in the school and tech. Remember, you are trying to prepare for a virtualization cert. Your entire lab environment can be virtual and can probably be created on your current computer. Even most of your Cisco study can be done in a virtual lab. It's nice to play with new hardware but you may not want to take on credit card debt just to practice for a test, especially if you're already paying the full price for the ICM course. Once you get the cert and a job in the field you would be working on much different hardware anyway. Here is the VCP5 blueprint: http://mylearn.vmware.com/mgrReg/plan.cfm?plan=45082&ui=www_cert My advice would be to get on the waiting list for the Stanly CC class, build your lab, and start reading the docs in the blueprint. By the time the class rolls around you'll already be pretty prepared for the exam. The class alone won't really prepare you for the exam.
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Just took my VCP-510 test, and passed! Thank you to Dilbert and everyone else who has helped answer my questions in this thread. I think I got the first suggestion to look for a Community College class from this thread. Definitely worth the time and money. Now I have time to work on some other certs to become a well rounded IT professional. I'm glad I started with Virtualization, if I want to run a server 2012 machine I can do that with my lab.  here I come!
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Just took my VCP-510 test, and passed! Congrats dude!
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I know this is more or less for the parts picker thread, but I posted and nobody responded. Does anybody know if the Q87 chipset is worthwhile to use v-pro specifically for vmware purposes? I know v-pro comes with a ton of crap, but I can't find much practical information on what benefits that a consumer grade PC might get from the virtual machine part of v-pro. This type of work is the only real thing this PC will do, but also play movies and web browsing. The vm's involved are database servers for testing purposes. Conversely, do the features you drop for getting a Q87 chipset affect day to day use (over a typical Z77) ? Q87 choices are pretty limited, although seemingly competent. It's sort of unclear what you're really losing over Z77 except for the fact you are losing features. Woops, I may have confused the vt-d benefit with vpro. Ugh time to do more research. Ignoarints fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Mar 27, 2014 |
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You might be better off just going with a Xeon chipset board designed for being a workstation. I have the SNB version (P8B WS) for my ESXi box, and have been really happy with it. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131849
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Ignoarints posted:I know this is more or less for the parts picker thread, but I posted and nobody responded. Does anybody know if the Q87 chipset is worthwhile to use v-pro specifically for vmware purposes? I know v-pro comes with a ton of crap, but I can't find much practical information on what benefits that a consumer grade PC might get from the virtual machine part of v-pro. This type of work is the only real thing this PC will do, but also play movies and web browsing. The vm's involved are database servers for testing purposes. I have an Intel Q77 board that supports vpro, if I install a vpro processor then the boards management features can be enabled. Why this requires cpu support I don't know. But thats the way Intel segments. I don't think vpro enables anything else for me on that board.
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phosdex posted:I have an Intel Q77 board that supports vpro, if I install a vpro processor then the boards management features can be enabled. Why this requires cpu support I don't know. But thats the way Intel segments. I don't think vpro enables anything else for me on that board. I just read, finally, that the virtualization portion of vpro is actually just vt-d, which is available separately on other chipsets.
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Ignoarints posted:I just read, finally, that the virtualization portion of vpro is actually just vt-d, which is available separately on other chipsets. Sort of. It's the combination of VT-x and VT-d, and enabling both at once so you can manage virtualized systems with vPro. VT-d is unnecessary for most people anyway.
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evol262 posted:Sort of. It's the combination of VT-x and VT-d, and enabling both at once so you can manage virtualized systems with vPro. Thanks, I'll look into it more. This isn't for me, at least not right now (I will be getting into this in the summer) but thats why I lack the knowledge
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Can I run vCenter, SRM, and vSphere replication all on SQL Express or do I need the full-blow MS SQL? I have a 3-server cluster here and a single server cluster at our DR site.
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I don't THINK it will work, I'd have to look it up though, never used it with sql express.
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Does anyone know if the vCenter SSO server natively integrates with RSA SecureID or can be made to?
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Groan, I just tried to migrate from a 5.1 vCenter to 5.5 for the experience of it, and while SSO works on the new 5.5 server, and I've added domain admins as to the administrator group in the web client, when I log on with a domain admin account, while it is successful in logging in, I can't perform any actions and it doesn't see the vCenter server at all: which means I missed a step  what'd I gloss over?(I should mention that if I log in as administrator@vsphere-local it sees the server and I can perform actions) eee: Oh I'd added domain admins to administrators, but never gave it permissions to the vCenter server, that'd do it MC Fruit Stripe fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Mar 28, 2014 |
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Think x2 i5 Intel NUCs for a home lab/cluster will suck with just having the one onboard NIC? When getting into vSwitches and stuff, will having the one nic really make a difference for learning? I'd run vCenter on my labtop in Fusion to keep it off the hosts to save RAM.
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mutantbandgeek posted:Think x2 i5 Intel NUCs for a home lab/cluster will suck with just having the one onboard NIC? When getting into vSwitches and stuff, will having the one nic really make a difference for learning? I'd run vCenter on my labtop in Fusion to keep it off the hosts to save RAM. You should at least run them into a managed switch so you can VLAN it and experiment with more complex network configs. But they'll easily take 8gb. Just run vCenter on the hosts. NUCs aren't really cost effective for a home lab/cluster compared to mATX AMD boards loaded with memory, which have the added bonus of letting you add cheap Intel PCIe NICs, though.
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evol262 posted:You should at least run them into a managed switch so you can VLAN it and experiment with more complex network configs. But they'll easily take 8gb. Just run vCenter on the hosts. This is what I was thinking, I just needed someone else to tell me I'm a moron. I remember seeing a thread about home labs, so I'll browse through it and add some stuff to my cart on amazon. I wanna buy all the hardware today so I can mess with it next week. My budget is around $1200 including the $250 Cisco Switch, so $1k is where I'd like to keep atleast 2 hosts. The single server host with nested ESX installs is always an option, but with 32GB limit. Maybe one of the dual chip boards that go up to 64GB will be worth it in the end over buying two PSU's, and two cases instead.
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:Groan, I just tried to migrate from a 5.1 vCenter to 5.5 for the experience of it, and while SSO works on the new 5.5 server, and I've added domain admins as to the administrator group in the web client, when I log on with a domain admin account, while it is successful in logging in, I can't perform any actions and it doesn't see the vCenter server at all: My memory is hazy on this one but there's a vCenter group that you need to add your AD group to. I can't be more helpful as I don't have access to the server that I set this up on, and it was about 8 months back. But you're not alone in finding it a pain in the arse. Edit: That will teach me to not refresh before replying.
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mutantbandgeek posted:This is what I was thinking, I just needed someone else to tell me I'm a moron. $1200 will get you two Haswell i5 boards with 32gb each and a Powerconnect 5324 (unless you absolutely need Cisco for whatever reason, a 1910-24g or Powerconnect 5324 are equally functional, more affordable alternatives to 3750s, which is what I assume you're after), but no cases or drives, probably. Or you can get 16GB each with 64GB SSDs and cases. Or 32GB with AMD CPUs. Dual CPU boards are not worth it.
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evol262 posted:$1200 will get you two Haswell i5 boards with 32gb each and a Powerconnect 5324 Cool, I'll search newegg's intel boards.
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Caged posted:My memory is hazy on this one but there's a vCenter group that you need to add your AD group to. I can't be more helpful as I don't have access to the server that I set this up on, and it was about 8 months back. But you're not alone in finding it a pain in the arse. To be honest, I completely misunderstood everything about 5.5, and thought that the web client was the only thing supported, and that the legacy client was only supported for a few very basic tasks at this point. I read while troubleshooting this that the legacy client is still useful for everything it was used for, it's only new features that require the web client. That means I need to read up on it a lot more, because I don't enjoy the web client much at all, which has held me back from embracing 5.5. Now that I know that's not a concern, I can charge into 5.5, and the quicker I do that the quicker I can get past my concerns on the web client.
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The confusion is that the thick client is completely useless now unless you have a vCenter Server, so everyone running actual production stuff on a free hypervisor got a bit irritated and loud. Connect the client to one of the hosts as opposed to the vCenter instance and you'll see what I mean. But the focus is very much on the web interface going forward, and I'm in two minds about that. It's great for me because I use a Mac and got bored using a Windows VM to manage vSphere.
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VM loving their tools is a pretty good boost for Hyper-V. As long as you have Windows the GUI* tools are free. *Note: Hyper-V 2012 requires Win8/2012 to manage.
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All the cool stuff comes with SCVMM though, which is a non-trivial thing to set up, whereas vCenter can just be deployed as a virtual appliance and left to sort itself out. If you're a Windows shop though then yeah, Hyper-V makes a lot of sense.
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How either of these look? The shuttle one would really be nice for space and stacked, but they only run 16GB. The second would be 32Gb each and be $200 bucks more with a newer cpu: 
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I wouldn't trust the psu in the second one. Also, is ram really that expensive now? drat.
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Wild EEPROM posted:I wouldn't trust the psu in the second one. The power supply is probably fine. It's not like it's powering an EXTREME GAYMER machine or anything that needs 5000 amps on the 12v rail. No, memory is not that expensive. It could be about 10-20% cheaper by purchasing 16gb (2x8) kits (~$260 for 32gb instead of $310 or $520 instead of $570), since it's not important that they be matched sets.
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evol262 posted:The power supply is probably fine. It's not like it's powering an EXTREME GAYMER machine or anything that needs 5000 amps on the 12v rail. Yea its about $520 for 4 kits of 16GB, so I changed it. Gonna price is out on Amazon and see if I can get any break on tax. edit: would save $20 with Amazon cause of prime. mutantbandgeek fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Mar 29, 2014 |
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I need some geographical help with some things, and a VDI project I am working on. Anyone by chance wanna help me test end user experience?
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:I need some geographical help with some things, and a VDI project I am working on. Anyone by chance wanna help me test end user experience? I would be interested, I am just now in the beginning phase of looking into a VDI implementation at work, and I want to see just how 'good' things are when I can experience them first hand and not from some Dell whitepaper.
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This is totally a 101 question but for some reason I can't think of the answer: If you use a vCenter server to manage your individual ESXi hosts, does that in any way prevent you from logging into each individual ESXi host and managing it as you would without a vCenter server? Obviously I'm not talking about things like vMotion or DRS or anything, just basic "start/stop/create/delete" tasks.
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Martytoof posted:This is totally a 101 question but for some reason I can't think of the answer: You can still do all of that stuff.
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Martytoof posted:This is totally a 101 question but for some reason I can't think of the answer: Nothing stops you, and it can be useful for troubleshooting esxi<->vcenter communication issues. When joining an esxi server to a vcenter server, you are prompted if you want to turn this off, so it may not always be available. You'll also need the password for that ESXi server, as it has no idea about vcenter/ad users.
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Welp, you can't manage free hypervisors with vCenter anyway so there goes my idea. some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Apr 1, 2014 |
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Martytoof posted:
Essentials is like 500 bucks, covers 3 hosts. Also: vExpert 2014 got announced today, I guess I made it in. Some other goons as well, congrats all! http://blogs.vmware.com/vmtn/2014/04/vexpert-2014-announcement.html Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 04:56 on Apr 2, 2014 |
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:Essentials is like 500 bucks, covers 3 hosts. Yeah, we sell essentials to most of our clients but this one just has their own way of doing things ... which leaves us managing dozens of ESXi hosts by hand.
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Martytoof posted:Yeah, we sell essentials to most of our clients but this one just has their own way of doing things I hope your billing reflects this fact.
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