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GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice
Philosophy pretty much is old dudes arguing, and it gets infuriating. For example, check out Kant's "Prolegomena to Any Future Metaphysics," a book he wrote about metaphysics that essentially said "stop writing books about metaphysics guys." It was like the loving precursor to effortposts made in attempts to stop derails. WAS KANT A GOON?!?!

That's not to say that all of philosophy is bad. The ancient Greeks are a blast to read, logic and ethics are always fun, and there are a lot of good things to be said about early American philosophy. I love the look of realization on students' faces when they read "The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin" and figure out that he was not only a pimp, but a genius, too.

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Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005
A couple years ago I did some post-graduate work in digital forensics...I do not know how you manage to do courses online that involves examining physical evidence, but they pulled it off. I remember they used to mail us hard drives so that we could do forensic workups on them.

Anyway, I took four classes and for the last two I had to write papers, and I was SHOCKED how easy it was to bamboozle a bunch of people with advanced degrees in computer science. Apparently no one in the major can write coherently, so if there was any structure to the paper at all they were giving it at least a B. If it was even semi-informative, it got an A. I guess it's not really a complaint, just a rather surprised observation.

How Rude
Aug 13, 2012


FUCK THIS SHIT

Alter Ego posted:

A couple years ago I did some post-graduate work in digital forensics...I do not know how you manage to do courses online that involves examining physical evidence, but they pulled it off. I remember they used to mail us hard drives so that we could do forensic workups on them.

Anyway, I took four classes and for the last two I had to write papers, and I was SHOCKED how easy it was to bamboozle a bunch of people with advanced degrees in computer science. Apparently no one in the major can write coherently, so if there was any structure to the paper at all they were giving it at least a B. If it was even semi-informative, it got an A. I guess it's not really a complaint, just a rather surprised observation.

I am not surprised. Nobody knows how to loving write at my university, not even the professors.

QuietLion
Aug 16, 2011

Da realest Kirby
The professor in my Human Variations class decided to assign people to groups according to their score on a single-paragraph summary of an article she posted online. She grouped a high-scoring with one mid-scoring and one low-scoring student, for ~30 groups of 3. Unfortunately I was the high-scoring person in my group, and our low-scoring person hasn't come to class in 3 weeks. So now I and the other person have to do the entire end-semester project by ourselves. :(

Luckily the mid-scoring student in my group is my best friend in the class, so that's something nice. I know she'll be a useful partner too, she only got a lower score because she accidentally forgot to put the class number on her paper. It just annoys me that the professor put together groups for a project that is 40% of our final grade based on one tiny paragraph, and that the professor docked a student 3/10 points for forgetting to include the class number on said paragraph. I feel like there'd be a more effective way to create groups...say, by looking at the essay scores of our midterms?

ILL ON PZONES
Oct 13, 2013
There's like, an infinite number of ways to combine students to make a terrible group and the only times they get it right is by accident.

Hummingbirds
Feb 17, 2011

I was always the high-scoring student in those intentionally mismatched groups and I hated it. I could kill teachers that create groups that way. Just because I am smart doesn't mean I have the skills to teach someone something they didn't understand the first time the professor tried to teach them.

E: might have underexplained there, what I mean is that as the high-scorer I usually had to guide my group mate through the lesson and/or assignment

A Festivus Miracle
Dec 19, 2012

I have come to discourse on the profound inequities of the American political system.

Semester-long group projects blow. When the group works (a rarity), it sucks. When the group doesn't work, you can literally feel the creative lifeforce and dreams that you brought to college being sucked out of your body as you try to convince the stoned retard in the group that no, his idea makes zero loving sense, and we will not put it in the goddamn paper.

:argh:.

QuietLion
Aug 16, 2011

Da realest Kirby
I've only had one good group for an end-semester project, and it was last semester. Our professor told us that whoever sat at your table on Day 1 would be your partners, with some wiggle room according to grades later in the semester. The guys I got grouped with were a computer science major, a business major, and a chemistry major. They were all nice and were willing to put forth work, and it was actually enjoyable to hang out with them. We got an A+ for our end project - we made a poster and fake advertising for a knock-off Indiana Jones movie - and were the only ones to get above a B+ in the class. They all graduated last winter, but I still occasionally talk to them.

While group projects may make you unhappy and sometimes infuriated, just remember that out there, somewhere, you may find a class with your very own CS/Business/Chemistry group.

RagnarokZ
May 14, 2004

Emperor of the Internet
At least you didn't end with the group, with that guy in it, no, not the stoner.

The guy who's doing the first semester, a second time, after not showing up/failing the exams the first time, not doing any work on the project, trying to turn in stuff from LAST YEARS project and being clueless.

Seriously, it was amazing, he uploads some crap to dropbox about China, which was fairly decent, and about a holepuncher, awesome right? Nope, the project was about a drat fitness bench, the plagarizing little poo poo.

He failed the exam, of course. And refused to answer at the reexam, hoping to be allowed to carry on through the second semester, turns out, you can't refuse to participate in reexams, so he was kicked out.

A happy ending, to story of poo poo.



Oh yeah, and the dyslexic guy who didn't know what "conglomerate" meant, the ditzy airhead, who was cute and could do ONE thing, spell good, and nothing else.


And we where the group of failure, we all hosed the market analysis up, the teachers used that to determine the groups, so hey.

Two out of six failure rate, not to bad.

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

A White Guy posted:

Semester-long group projects blow. When the group works (a rarity), it sucks. When the group doesn't work, you can literally feel the creative lifeforce and dreams that you brought to college being sucked out of your body as you try to convince the stoned retard in the group that no, his idea makes zero loving sense, and we will not put it in the goddamn paper.

:argh:.

Oh man, I actually experienced this last semester when one guy in our group constantly showed up to group meetings as if he'd just gotten stoned ten minutes beforehand. Literally all of his suggestions had to do with somehow trying to integrate some non sequitor story about his girlfriend into the game we were developing, it was infuriating as all hell.

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

It's about to start!
Yeah, Stoner/Slacker guy is why I just roll into the first meeting of a group project with two or three rough pitches. And it always ends up with one guy saying, "Well, I have some ideas!"

He never elaborates, has no research, and there's zero follow through on basic poo poo. But he always wants to call a quorum and group decide the project direction two or three weeks after the assignment because me putting together proposals and telling the group to do poo poo "isn't fair".

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

A White Guy posted:

Semester-long group projects blow. When the group works (a rarity), it sucks. When the group doesn't work, you can literally feel the creative lifeforce and dreams that you brought to college being sucked out of your body as you try to convince the stoned retard in the group that no, his idea makes zero loving sense, and we will not put it in the goddamn paper.

:argh:.

I had one where I had the smallest group in the class, the professor realized the topic he gave my group needed to be changed, then hosed up changing it so he had to change it again with like no time left in the class, then one of the group members dropped the class leaving my group at me and one other person.

Then I got swine flu.

Which gave me pneumonia.

So I was barely able to do anything for like two weeks. Somehow we still passed. I think he took pity on us.

How Rude
Aug 13, 2012


FUCK THIS SHIT
I just took a Geography 101 test. I like it because the professor has a PH.D in fluvial systems and actually cares about the poo poo he is teaching.

However the test today was really mean. Literally 20 questions out of 60 that were matching Influent and Effluent rivers to terms that describe them.
I loving FORGOT WHICH WAS WHICH
So I guessed. Effluent sounds like it does what it does without influence and influent sounds like it's influenced by other factors, so I took a leap of faith based off of that stupid reasoning.

Looking it up, I picked the right choices :woop: But seriously, 1/3 of the test is based on two terms. That loving sucks.

TheShrike
Oct 30, 2010

You mechs may have copper wiring to re-route your fear of pain, but I've got nerves of steel.
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Strudel Man
May 19, 2003
ROME DID NOT HAVE ROBOTS, FUCKWIT

Kontradaz posted:

Thats why you don't major in a useless major.
Hey. Efflu. :mad:

MoreLikeTen
Oct 21, 2012

The farmer's mistake was believing he had any control over his life.

karl fungus posted:

How does a unisex bathroom work? Is it just all stalls, or are they just single-occupant rooms?

My college is making a push to make all dorm bathrooms unisex, and this plan saves me about 20 yards of walking round trip, so I'm a fan. Seriously though, it's turned out to be a total nonissue, and I was skeptical at first.

How Rude
Aug 13, 2012


FUCK THIS SHIT

Kontradaz posted:

Thats why you don't major in a useless major.

I'm majoring in accounting at one of the best business schools in my state, I just took Geography 101 for gen. eds.

In other news, I saw a girl with blue hair and anime poo poo plastered all over her bag. A lot of "art" majors look like this.

Astrofig
Oct 26, 2009

Kavak posted:

:lol:/sympathetic hug to people without a nice electronic submission system like CROPS. By the way, what the hell is your red text from?

We have to do discussion boards on it as a key portion of our grade (and in another class, we do tests through it. You can totally save and come back to this, guys! Really! You just lose a point per minute past x length of time, that's all!). And the red text came from a description of a feminist-centric sci-fi fantasy story I was working on for a while.

Rather Watch Them posted:

At least it was $90 cheaper than my psychology book bunch of pages I had to buy a binder for. At least that one was an interesting read--and harder to Google, thus justifying the purchase a tiny bit more in my head.

Oh, that's another fun thing---textbooks that come as looseleaf and thus can't be sold to get back even part of the $150 you paid for it!

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Austrian mook
Feb 24, 2013

by Shine

Kontradaz posted:

Thats why you don't major in a useless major.

This is a pet peeve of mine, why is it any buissness of yours why I'm in a History program? I'm perfectly happy in my "useless" major jerk! :mad:

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

Since you're paying for it I'd say it's all your business.

In socialist Denmark and it's the state who's paying it's another can of worms altogether.

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!

How Rude posted:

Looking it up, I picked the right choices :woop: But seriously, 1/3 of the test is based on two terms. That loving sucks.

Welcome to post-secondary, that's why my biggest piece of advice to any new students is to star or highlight subjects the professor puts emphasis on (and study hard on them) because at least 1/3rds of every test will contain it.

But, anyways, take it easy on him everyone we all took a course we knew was useless because we needed credits and there were no other options that semester. I took Art History 101 for Christ's sake because not only did I need the credits but it opened up some unrelated 200-level courses for me (long story as to how that was possible) that had credits that counted.

Astrofig
Oct 26, 2009
Oh hey, so guess what else is awesome? Thanks to budget cuts, we have to provide our own scantrons for tomorrow's test! which means driving from St. Louis county to South County because the loving bookstore closed early!

Austrian mook
Feb 24, 2013

by Shine

Boiled Water posted:

Since you're paying for it I'd say it's all your business.

In socialist Denmark and it's the state who's paying it's another can of worms altogether.

Yeah, but I think higher education is such a boon to society as a whole, everyone who wants it should be allowed to have it, that however, isn't really on track. People who go "good luck finding a job sucker" when they talk to anybody taking an Arts degree can go eat a dick. This is almost exclusively Buisness students too, who are all dicks.

champagne posting
Apr 5, 2006

YOU ARE A BRAIN
IN A BUNKER

I think we can all agree that business students are dicks.

What puzzles me is what makes med students in assholes in america but pleasant people in Scandinavia.

Austrian mook
Feb 24, 2013

by Shine

Boiled Water posted:

I think we can all agree that business students are dicks.

What puzzles me is what makes med students in assholes in america but pleasant people in Scandinavia.

free healthcare

Astrofig
Oct 26, 2009

Austrian mook posted:

free healthcare

You joke but I think there might be some element of truth to this. Med students know that not every patient they get is going to be able to afford their care, and that's most often going to lead to some loving tragic circumstances. I like to think they tend to reflexively become assholes to protect against this phenomena so as to be less depressed by having to turn away people who need care and can't afford it.

How Rude
Aug 13, 2012


FUCK THIS SHIT

Boiled Water posted:

I think we can all agree that business students are dicks.

What puzzles me is what makes med students in assholes in america but pleasant people in Scandinavia.

gently caress you! I'm not a dick! :fut:

For content, I really like our library. We have access to academic databases from all over on the library website so it's a cinch finding sources for lit. reviews, research papers, and annotated bibliographies or poo poo like that. Plenty of books and other media too, it's pretty big!

The only thing I don't like about it is the lame architecture. I always saw really cool looking libraries in colleges in media everywhere even if they aren't Yale or Harvard quality in expenses/old age. My university's library is too new and therefore boring and office-like with grey all over. Nothing like college putting boring rear end gray walls all over the place! Guess they're preparing me for when I get my internship/job, though. :sigh:

GabrielAisling
Dec 21, 2011

The finest of all dances.
Georgia Tech has the best digital archive of scholarly literary journals in the state. :argh:

Double Plus Good
Nov 4, 2009
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gmcsonoma
Jan 27, 2004

My school offers "regular" 3 hour lecture courses and "hybrid" 2 hour lecture/1 hour online component courses. The thing is, there's no criteria for what constitutes an online component. What this means in practice is that my "regular" accounting course requires 2 extra hours a week of online reading and quizzes worth 40% of my grade, while my "hybrid" communications course had the prof lecturing right up until the 2 hour mark with no additional online component or online assignments :confused:

TunaSpleen
Jan 27, 2007

How do I say, "You're the grossest thing ever" without offending you?
Grimey Drawer

Double Plus Good posted:

I seriously hate this as well, even though I majored in an allied health field that has pretty good post-graduation job security (99% employment rate for all graduates in the last 5 years). My university was recently posted low on some ROI list, and some of my friends who fit the Business or STEM Major from Big State College were being smug about it. We're a liberal arts university whose biggest majors are art, music, theatre, and education, no loving poo poo our graduates aren't making the big bucks. Pretty sure nobody dreams of being an elementary school teacher rolling in the dough. The term "starving artist" has been around for a long time, dudes, nobody is going to be surprised.

Plus, not every STEM field is hopping in demand. I study evolutionary biology--aside from scant positions at colleges and natural history museums, I may as well become an overqualified biology tutor. My advisor specializes in snake systematics but he told me to play up any other areas I'm good at (such as microbiology) to increase my chances of getting a job after my Ph.D.

Ariza
Feb 8, 2006

gmcsonoma posted:

My school offers "regular" 3 hour lecture courses and "hybrid" 2 hour lecture/1 hour online component courses. The thing is, there's no criteria for what constitutes an online component. What this means in practice is that my "regular" accounting course requires 2 extra hours a week of online reading and quizzes worth 40% of my grade, while my "hybrid" communications course had the prof lecturing right up until the 2 hour mark with no additional online component or online assignments :confused:

I've had one that was very similar to your first example, 2.5 hours of lecture a week and an insanely busy online component that takes far more time. But then again I have a "hybrid" course next semester that meets for 3 hours once at the end of the semester for what I'm assuming is a final and everything else is online. It seems like online courses have been around long enough that some standards would be in practice, but here we are. I'm taking a wholly online web "programming" class right now that has taken up exactly 40 minutes of my time since the semester began in January. It feels like a waste of money, but an easy A in a required course is an easy A I suppose.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

Kontradaz posted:

Thats why you don't major in a useless major.

Not everyone goes to college with a motivation for money. Yeah, some people take guaranteed money majors, but in my experience, the better stem and humanities majors are those who have a passion for it and accept that they won't live a disgustingly affluent lives with these paths.

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Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

And, God forbid, some people get an education for the sake of being educated. It doesn't fly so well when the economy is broken. But back (in the UK at least) when things were cheaper/government funded, why not get an education in something that interests you and then find a perfectly normal middle class job? But nope, if you aren't advancing as fast as you can, you're an unemployable failure.

Razorwired
Dec 7, 2008

It's about to start!
Yeah, my sister got a pretty sweet internship at a biofuel research lab. She left to be a public defender because "Pouring gunk into other poo poo is boring as hell."

Grey Elephants
Jul 23, 2013
My school does not know how to handle registration at all. Last time they said it opened at 7 a.m. - 5:15! This time, 6:15!

And not to mention every goddamn seat in every goddamn class is reserved (I'm mostly taking entry level courses because I'm undeclared and choosing between two majors) because we're taking way more students in next semester than we can even house, to the point where people are protesting on campus about the lack of housing.

I had to stay up all night to even have a shot at getting any of the classes I wanted and I got none because I was two minutes off :argh:

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

I know that sending out "There's been a shooting at the corner of X and Y on campus, avoid the area" messages every few weeks can't be good for morale, but I don't think that changing the template to "Increased police activity at the corner of X and Y on campus, avoid the area" is an improvement.

GOTTA STAY FAI
Mar 24, 2005

~no glitter in the gutter~
~no twilight galaxy~
College Slice
Why is there at least one person in every class that thinks he or she will get away with plagiarizing Wikipedia?

Bonus points if the cut & pasted content contains intentional inaccuracies :bravo:

Kavak
Aug 23, 2009


Lottery of Babylon posted:

I know that sending out "There's been a shooting at the corner of X and Y on campus, avoid the area" messages every few weeks can't be good for morale, but I don't think that changing the template to "Increased police activity at the corner of X and Y on campus, avoid the area" is an improvement.

Where do you go that there are multiple shootings a month on campus?

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Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

Kavak posted:

Where do you go that there are multiple shootings a month on campus?

Philadelphia's a fun city.

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