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Steve Yun posted:Anyone know where's that series of images where Will's dog tells him how dumb he was for not figuring out that Hannibal was the killer http://suddenbutinevitable.tumblr.com/post/57990398858/arubajamaicas-a-mans-best-friend
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That orderly definitely wasn't dead, so I imagine that is going to be a really interesting conversation.
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Mar 29, 2014 18:29
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deadly claris posted:I get the hype. We're kind of seeing the tables turned here. Will has changed so much from the first season. The Wendigo is no longer his subconscious's perception of Hannibal. He is becoming the monster that he is hunting (minus the eating people thing, I hope.) This is truly the first time we have seen Hannibal caught completely off his guard. He knew Tobias wanted to kill him (and planned to kill Franklin.) He did not see the orderly coming, and we should not have expected to see Hannibal so brutally brought to his knees (so to speak.) He is always 5 steps ahead. He barely made it out of this episode alive - and not only that, the person who nearly killed him was someone we've never seen before, someone he's never seen before, someone completely off of our/his radar. It was a complete shock to me to see him taken down, and then later to see the fallen angel crucified as the saviour. Because as much of a monster as Hannibal is, he is, one way or another, Will's really only salvation. Or was, until this poo poo went down. I liked the episode, because through the first season Haninbal is sort of an omnipotent presence for all characters, and now through the second season he's starting to lose control of the situation. First with Du Maurier, and now seeing him hanged, really makes you think of him as a vulnerable and not the looming figure.
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Mar 29, 2014 18:40
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Full Fathoms Five posted:That orderly definitely wasn't dead, so I imagine that is going to be a really interesting conversation. I'm glad because he owned. Was Gideon supposed to be ambiguously dead after last season? That's how I remembered it, did they ever mention his ultimate fate before this episode? Not that I'm complaining, Izzard is absolutely murdering it. In fact every actor on this show is constantly murdering it. Also Hannibal was up .2 to a 1.1 which matched the season high!
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Mar 29, 2014 18:58
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I've always wondering why Will didn't think to just tell Beverly (or anyone after he realized Hannibal was eating them) to get a food sample in the first place. I even thought of that as a reasonable course of action and I'm not a crime solving wizard.
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Mar 29, 2014 19:29
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droey posted:I've always wondering why Will didn't think to just tell Beverly (or anyone after he realized Hannibal was eating them) to get a food sample in the first place. I even thought of that as a reasonable course of action and I'm not a crime solving wizard. That was what she was in the middle of doing, when she got caught. Took some organ meat out of the fridge, some blood dripped into the basement, went into the basement and then 
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Mar 29, 2014 19:33
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Well she realized the stitching thing on her own and didn't tell anyone else right? Couldn't will just say "hey she went to Hannibal's house to look for human meat like I told her to and look she's an exhibit now." What I really meant was why not wait for Hannibal to throw a typical dinner? It's not like Hannibal would deny dinner to a man whom he is trying to manipulate. He could've asked Jack to just take some leftovers with him and then have those tested in the first place.
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Mar 29, 2014 19:36
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droey posted:Well she realized the stitching thing on her own and didn't tell anyone else right? Couldn't will just say "hey she went to Hannibal's house to look for human meat like I told her to and look she's an exhibit now." What I really meant was why not wait for Hannibal to throw a typical dinner? It's not like Hannibal would deny dinner to a man whom he is trying to manipulate. He could've asked Jack to just take some leftovers with him and then have those tested in the first place. I don't think anyone would actually believe him though if he told them that. I hoped Chilton would have had that conversation recorded but apparently that's the ONE TIME he chose to not be an asswipe.
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Mar 29, 2014 19:44
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You also have to remember just how crazy it is to accuse Hannibal of being a serial killer if you don't have outside audience knowledge. It'd be like accusing Sanjay Gupta of serial murder.
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Mar 29, 2014 19:47
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zoux posted:You also have to remember just how crazy it is to accuse Hannibal of being a serial killer if you don't have outside audience knowledge. It'd be like accusing Sanjay Gupta of serial murder. If it's anyone, it's surely Dr Oz. I'm sure that hack is responsible for getting old people and moms hurt with awful advice
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Mar 29, 2014 19:52
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blablablabla posted:Yeah I want that fridge which turned a human body into complete ice in under a night. Exactly! And to the post below with liquid nitrogen, the flesh would be frosted as it was it exposed to insanely cold temps before the thermal effect would penetrate. Basically, what the poster pointed out, the human body is dense and will not freeze at the same time. It is like reverse frying a food. You hit it with 450 degree oil and the skin instntly reacts, the rest of the body then, with the reactive shield, warms accordingly. I don't believe you can cool a, dense, human body with liquid nitrogen, ambient. whatever freezer to saw it that cleanly. That should have been a big hint to the FBI. You just cant saw a side of beef under 24 hrs witout it drining/freezing/so much else that was ignored in that episode. HE COULD NOT HAVE SOLIDLY FROZE HER BODY. I am not a serial killer or butcher, but that is the truth. Why, when that was known, did they now look for liquid nitrogen sales, or butcher freezers, or anything that an actual profiler would wonder. E.G. 8 foot sheets of glass, a bandsaw tht can accomidate her spine-to-chest size. Blah blh blah. Why is that all ignored while we bring in Will and ask him what he thought. Why did we not hear, even me: "you can cut meat more cleanly with it cooler. hot beef, to cold, and meat slicer. To frozen to as thin as your saw will tolerate. But, really, he FROZE HER to cut her like that. That is Will's insight? Is the FBI that dumb that it was not obvious. And they didn't then wonder what blast chiller could freeze a body in under 24 hrs to be sliced? Overlooked episode of rational people. JD Bucks 7 fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Mar 29, 2014 |
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Mar 29, 2014 19:53
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Why are you all assuming that this happened the next day after Hannibal killed her, instead of a few days or whatever. She could have gone missing, or maybe it was Friday night, etc... We received no indication whatsoever that it took place in 24 hours, and it would take way too much time for Hannibal to be able to kill her, freeze her, prepare all of that poo poo (are we supposed to believe he had those panes of glass just handy?) and then bring her to the observatory and mount her up then he went back, invited Jack for breakfast while calling Freddy so shed find the body as Jack was munching on some Katz slices? The likely explanation is that this took place over a couple of days, most likely on a Friday night she was killed and then Hannibal took care of the rest during the weekend and then on Monday they found her.
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Mar 29, 2014 19:57
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Twee as gently caress posted:Why are you all assuming that this happened the next day after Hannibal killed her, instead of a few days or whatever. She could have gone missing, or maybe it was Friday night, etc... Nitpicking aside, will asked Jack where he was last night, and he told him about being at the hospital
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Mar 29, 2014 19:58
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  This loving show.
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Mar 29, 2014 19:58
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Thwomp posted:It had tense moments and the music was loving unnerving. It also had Will going off the deep end in a misguided attempt to balance the scales.
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Mar 29, 2014 20:03
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Twee, you are a loving idiot. I've read every post in this thread and seen all the ones people question you and you just ignore. I am quite sure they mentioned it in the episode, but even if they didn't, why would we assume an FBI special agent investigating a serial killer that didn't check in for a few days.... Do you realize how dumb you sound? I don't know if you get off on being a troll, but you are so loving wrong and ignore when you are that anyone knows to disregard anything you say.
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Mar 29, 2014 20:04
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SaxMaverick posted:Nitpicking aside, will asked Jack where he was last night, and he told him about being at the hospital His wife just tried to kill herself and she's got terminal cancer. He's going to answer 'at the hospital' for like three weeks. Maybe until she dies. But yeah, I had forgotten about Will's specific last night, so I guess that means Hannibal did in fact set it up under like what 8 hours if he had breakfast with Jack the next morning? I'll file that under the same pile as totem corpse physics JD Bucks 7 posted:I am quite sure they mentioned it in the episode, but even if they didn't, why would we assume an FBI special agent investigating a serial killer that didn't check in for a few days.... Do you realize how dumb you sound? She is not an FBI special agent investigation a serial killer, she's a lab technician who was investigating something on the side without anyone but Will knowing about it. Also, it's not like the FBI knows what every agent is doing with their weekends. If she doesn't have a boyfriend or something, she could go 'missing' on the weekend for a day or two without anyone noticing. Twee as Fuck fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Mar 29, 2014 |
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Mar 29, 2014 20:09
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This episode was actually a breather compared to the last one for me for some reason! Which is a good thing, because I have a sneaking suspicion next week is going to send me back into 50-heart-attacks-a-second mode. Also, my silly little contribution to the Hannibal tumblr joke collection: http://stupid-person-suit.tumblr.com/post/81085728650/im-going-to-hell
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Tokubetsu posted:
Yeah, Hannibal comments that the PhD candidates he was having Alana test thought the two of them were having an affair, then asks, seemingly genuinely, 'why didn't we?'
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"As a doctor, I had no choice. As a philosopher, I had too many." Which is immediately followed by the equally amazing line with equally amazing delivery and word choice; "It wasn't about what I could do for Bella, it was what I couldn't do to you, Jack." Then Jack says he's a great friend.  Oh- Did anyone see the crawfish in the beginning? Tiny swell of pride there.  Gun was such a good touch. Or bad touch, if your name is Moxxxi.    Kill Hannibal Lecter.  I've been fascinated with symbolism as a child, this is some wonderful poo poo.   That's a good lat exercise, right?     droey posted:Well she realized the stitching thing on her own and didn't tell anyone else right? Hannibal led her into looking at the stitches when he went over them with a magnifying glass with her, talking about how things can be hidden. Why not tell everyone? Why didn't they take those birds in the beginning of Lord of the Rings? Also I'm not watching anymore, the science gently caress-up with the body freezing is the last straw. I can handle all the serial killers and the time travel, but that blatant oversight? No. Someone else will have to gif from now on becARE YOU SERIOUS WITH THIS  Bonus tattoo shots requests;  
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Mar 29, 2014 21:22
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Astrofig posted:Yeah, Hannibal comments that the PhD candidates he was having Alana test thought the two of them were having an affair, then asks, seemingly genuinely, 'why didn't we?' This keeps getting brought up and everyone forgets that Alana rightly points out that Hannibal was fake-flirting with her to change the subject
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Mar 29, 2014 21:36
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Paradox Personified posted:Why didn't they take those birds in the beginning of Lord of the Rings? The Great Eye of Sauron would have seen them and summoned the Witch King and the rest of the Nazgul who could have easily caught the Eagles carrying a bunch of fat-asses?
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Mar 29, 2014 21:39
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Haha, I choose to read that last line as the start of a joke at the expense of The Following 
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Mar 29, 2014 21:44
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matrocious posted:The Great Eye of Sauron would have seen them and summoned the Witch King and the rest of the Nazgul who could have easily caught the Eagles carrying a bunch of fat-asses? The eye wasn't up yet? Paradox Personified fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Mar 29, 2014 |
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Mar 29, 2014 21:49
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Jerusalem posted:Haha, I choose to read that last line as the start of a joke at the expense of The Following Can you expand on this for someone who doesn't watch Following
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Mar 29, 2014 21:53
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matrocious posted:
Brilliant. Give that man his own loving cooking show already!
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Mar 29, 2014 21:53
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Guys, he didn't use liquid nitrogen, he used a Blast Chiller which I'm pretty sure they even showed during Will Graham's metronome flashback. It's a process common in food prep. In fact, here in Michigan if I recall correctly (some things you pick up when your father is the head of the county health inspection for several decades) Asian restaurants HAVE to use them with Sushi in order to prevent bacterial contamination. From time to time you'll see them used on Food Network on shows like Chopped where they have to make their food quickly.
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Mar 29, 2014 21:56
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Steve Yun posted:Can you expand on this for someone who doesn't watch Following I don't watch it either, but my understanding is that it is about a cult of serial killers committing murders at the behest of an imprisoned serial killer. Basically an excuse for a hollow imitation of the Lecter/Starling or Lecter/Graham thing where a FBI profiler has to frequently deal with an imprisoned serial killer genius. I like to think the line at the end of Freddie's article is,"Of course, a cult of serial killers is obviously ridiculous and nobody with any sense would ever credit the idea."
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Choco1980 posted:Guys, he didn't use liquid nitrogen, he used a Blast Chiller which I'm pretty sure they even showed during Will Graham's metronome flashback. It's a process common in food prep. In fact, here in Michigan if I recall correctly (some things you pick up when your father is the head of the county health inspection for several decades) Asian restaurants HAVE to use them with Sushi in order to prevent bacterial contamination. From time to time you'll see them used on Food Network on shows like Chopped where they have to make their food quickly. At one of the largest pork processing plants I work with, they have a blast freezer that can freeze 300 lb carcasses within four or five hours. Then they run then through the line and slice all the cuts with saws nearly exactly the same as the ones they showed. In fact, any that get cut and the skin is damaged or flesh is mangled get thrown out: technically they can be used under USDA rules, but this plant doesn't even try, they get used for other things or, as is the case with most of the parts that aren't used, get sent to China. Tl,dr: it's improbable, but not impossible. The clothes present a problem, but I've witnessed 21,000 carcasses twice a person's weight undergo the same process a day
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If you guys haven't been watching The Following, you really have to. It's the best worst show on television right now and absolutely mesmerizing. It's the anti-Hannibal in all the best ways possible 
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SaxMaverick posted:At one of the largest pork processing plants I work with, they have a blast freezer that can freeze 300 lb carcasses within four or five hours. Then they run then through the line and slice all the cuts with saws nearly exactly the same as the ones they showed. In fact, any that get cut and the skin is damaged or flesh is mangled get thrown out: technically they can be used under USDA rules, but this plant doesn't even try, they get used for other things or, as is the case with most of the parts that aren't used, get sent to China. I dont know anything about food processing but but but SCIENCE because of REASONS porkchop_express fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Mar 29, 2014 |
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Mar 29, 2014 22:29
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Paradox Personified posted:
Oh my god the lighting in this shot and how it looks like Will is being reborn into a fallen angel.
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Jerusalem posted:I don't watch it either, but my understanding is that it is about a cult of serial killers committing murders at the behest of an imprisoned serial killer. Basically an excuse for a hollow imitation of the Lecter/Starling or Lecter/Graham thing where a FBI profiler has to frequently deal with an imprisoned serial killer genius. Your understanding is way off. And I've been a fervent hate-watcher of that show since the first episode.
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escape artist posted:Your understanding is way off. And I've been a fervent hate-watcher of that show since the first episode. But my understanding that it is a terrible, terrible, terrible show is correct, right?
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Mar 29, 2014 22:34
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Jerusalem posted:But my understanding that it is a terrible, terrible, terrible show is correct, right? It's been embracing its campiness and dark humor, and has turned around a bit lately. It's a nice dose of Monday night silliness since Sleepy Hollow isn't on anymore. It's not Dexter-bad. Dexter was a chore to slog through, even though it resulted in a lot of hilarious hate-watching moments. But this is a show you actually look forward to hate-watching. You love/hate-watch it.
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matrocious posted:
I rewound that three times, wondering if he really did that or if it was clever editing. Either way, I want to make eggs like that sometime...
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Mar 29, 2014 23:10
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In the blooper reel, you see him do a billion takes of it.
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Mar 29, 2014 23:12
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The blooper reel for S1 has a few of him trying to do the potato and Dancy laughs his rear end off alongside Mads. By the end of this series, I imagine we'll have a ton of potato drop/egg drop shots to intermix with a metric fuckton of actual human brains flying up and tumbling down onto a Damacles sword or something. ⇣⇣ Weren't so many of us hoping that about the Jack/fight/Bev scenes before the season started? 
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Preview Talk: I really hope the Alannibal scene is a misdirect from Will's imagination.
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