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Hedrigall
Mar 27, 2008

by vyelkin
I'm still reading Manhattan Projects but I stopped understanding what the gently caress is going on like, 8 issues ago. Maybe 10. Is there any blog or review site or wiki that has issue-by-issue synopses? :psyduck: (I just finished number 18 and have no loving clue what happened)

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Senor Candle
Nov 5, 2008

Hedrigall posted:

I'm still reading Manhattan Projects but I stopped understanding what the gently caress is going on like, 8 issues ago. Maybe 10. Is there any blog or review site or wiki that has issue-by-issue synopses? :psyduck: (I just finished number 18 and have no loving clue what happened)

I just pick up the trades when they come out and it is way easier to follow that way.

Niemat
Mar 21, 2011

I gave that pitch vibrato. Pitches love vibrato.

RevKrule posted:

Helheim is awesome. Bunn is fantastic with his independents (Sixth Gun notably) and mediocre with his for hire work.

Seriously, read Helheim. And also Sixth Gun, but you asked about Helheim and you need to read that.

Seconding this. Plus, if you read Helheim now, and follow it up with the Sixth Gun, you'll be all caught up when Oni puts out the second installment to Helheim and another prequel to the Sixth Gun later this year (both of which I'm unbelievably excited about)!

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Endless Mike posted:

Hickman's not writing God is Dead anymore and I think it's gotten a lot better since he left.
Yeah, I'm actually enjoying it now, was told to give it another try after Hickman's arc ended and the new stuff is readable!

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer

DACK FAYDEN posted:

Yeah, I'm actually enjoying it now, was told to give it another try after Hickman's arc ended and the new stuff is readable!

Same here. I was ready to drop. Hadn't ralized that Hickman left.

ShutteredIn
Mar 24, 2005

El Campeon Mundial del Acordeon
New Tank Girl kickstarter, pretty excited:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/332295438/21st-century-tank-girl-a-book-by-hewlett-and-marti

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Niemat posted:

Seconding this. Plus, if you read Helheim now, and follow it up with the Sixth Gun, you'll be all caught up when Oni puts out the second installment to Helheim and another prequel to the Sixth Gun later this year (both of which I'm unbelievably excited about)!

Helheim was pretty cool. I might pick up Sixth Gun next comics go round.

^burtle
Jul 17, 2001

God of Boomin'



Hedrigall posted:

I'm still reading Manhattan Projects but I stopped understanding what the gently caress is going on like, 8 issues ago. Maybe 10. Is there any blog or review site or wiki that has issue-by-issue synopses? :psyduck: (I just finished number 18 and have no loving clue what happened)

I'll give it a stab:



Manhattan Projects is assembled, a long the way they rebel against the government illuminati and win the rebellion essentially taking over the government and wiping out some aliens. They invest in three projects, one if I recall is the colonize space, one is to promote human growth and I forget what the third one is. Oppenheimer, having been replaced by his twin brother, betrays the group and leads a coup that has resulted in a Colonel Kurtz level dude now taking over the project.

Side plots along the way: The Martian is actually a spy who betrays the team. Oppenheimer won the internal battle against his brother, only to be then murdered(?) by a time traveling Einstein. The original general is now allying with the Kurtz team, betraying the project.



Help?

Zachack
Jun 1, 2000




Not quite, although I'll probably get things wrong too:

There are four teams, I think it was energy, space, aliens/xenobiology, and whatever Oppenheimer was working on (may have been energy). I think the Kurtz guy is McNamara, but I don't recall the General switching sides as I thought the US Military team was stopped by the captured alien. Oppenheimer "cured" himself but then was killed by Albert Einstein who has somehow escaped from the parallel universe that Albrecht Einstein came from - I don't recall if Albert knew Oppenheimer was the killer twin. Fermi was a spy from the galactic empire that was wiped out early in the series - I think he was supposed to wipe out humanity or something if they became a threat.

I keep hoping for an oversized version like the Chew Omnivore books or the Fear Agent books. Hickman needs to get on board with the future, namely oversized hardcovers catering to me.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


You guys are way off.

Shredder used Dimension X technology to turn Manhattan into a floating island and challenged the turtles to come face him in his new impregnable stronghold.

Marshal Radisic
Oct 9, 2012


Gah, everyone's so close and yet so far. I've read this drat thing so many times already, so let me try.

Now, from what you said, you checked out during the middle of the war the Manhattan Projects (which are an alliance between the American Manhattan Projects and its Soviet counterpart, Star City) were fighting against the financial Illuminati. To cut a crazy story short, the Projects win, Oppenheimer eats President Truman, and they install JFK in the Oval Office as their unknowing puppet. The Projects use the Cold War as an excuse to sponge money off the superpowers for their own work, and all is right with the world.

At this point, Oppenheimer proposes three programs for the Projects to pursue: Project Ares, a program focused on exploring and colonizing the solar system; Project Gaia, which is meant to engineer a new type of human being that is immune to disease and aging and can endure the rigors of interstellar travel; and Project Vulcan, which is pretty much a geothermal cheap-energy project. The cast divides into three groups and go their separate ways; Von Braun heads up Ares by shooting Laika into space, Einstein and Feynman pursue Gaia by abducting aliens, vivisecting them, and combining their body parts into a bug-eyed Frankencreature that sounds like Matthew McConaughey, and Groves, Ustinov and Daghlian work on Vulcan. As an aside, it's also revealed that Fermi was actually an alien drone sent by Raal (the devil-looking guy who didn't die when Daghlian irradiated the Siill hive mind) to monitor Earth's technological progress and halt any attempts to develop a spacefaring industry. Fermi makes an attempt to stop it and gets dismembered for his trouble, but not before sending a message back to Raal.

However, what no one knows is that Oppenheimer himself has a secret project, Project Charon, that requires the resources of Gaia and Vulcan. When Charon nears completion, Oppenheimer betrays the Projects, telling Kennedy about their collusion with the Soviets and pinning it all on Groves. Kennedy, incensed, sends Gen. Westmoreland to lock the place down and throw all the scientists in the klink, unknowingly giving Oppenheimer access to what he needs. In due course, Matthew McConaughey gets loose and kills most of the occupying soldiers only to be put down by Westmoreland. Realizing there's way more here than meets the eye, Westmoreland grabs Groves and prepares to get the bottom of everything. Meanwhile, Oppenheimer hooks himself up to a brain scan/upload/? helmet, and Charon seems to be mostly completed...only he get shot in the head before its full completion.

As a side story, there is also the "Finite Oppenheimer" issues, which essentially run in parallel to the comic and are set in Joseph Oppenheimer's mental world. They focus on Robert, who exists inside Joseph's mind as an independent personality, and chronicles his attempts to raise multiple armies to defeat Joseph's personality constructs and seize control of his brother's mind. Imagine the Malkovich Restaurant scene from Being John Malkovich as a Zach Snyder movie, and you won't be far off. It's a neat allegory for the struggle of progress, and the pictures are insane.

Oh, and the last time we saw her, Laika had run into an alien dreadnought on a beeline for Earth.


I think that's everything.

pugnax
Oct 10, 2012

Specialization is for insects.
Man, I just got caught up on Velvet and love it. Hope it has a good long run.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong
The last issue of Pretty Deadly has some stunning art, even moreso than Rios's normal superlative efforts. Yowza. What a weird, amazing book.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Haha, welp! I am officially done with Invincible. I put up with a lot in the last couple years, but I think Invincirape is the last straw.

emdash
Oct 19, 2003

and?

Gavok posted:

Haha, welp! I am officially done with Invincible. I put up with a lot in the last couple years, but I think Invincirape is the last straw.

Just read it. I believe that's what's known as "jumping the shark." :saddowns:

the page where it occurs looks like bad porn. it's not just a stupid, far-fetched plot point, it's delivered incredibly hamfisted on the page. Ugh.

emdash fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Apr 10, 2014

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


Man I think I jumped off Invincible the very first time someone got punched into meat confetti. Kirkman's the guy who had Luke Cage melt into a puddle and Speedball carry a severed arm around during a "lighthearted" Marvel Team-up issue, I feel like whatever strengths he has as a writer will always be eclipsed by his addiction to cheap shock value.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Gavok posted:

Haha, welp! I am officially done with Invincible. I put up with a lot in the last couple years, but I think Invincirape is the last straw.

I think I stopped reading around the ecowarrior trex. Things have clearly gone even more downhill since then.

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Gavok posted:

Haha, welp! I am officially done with Invincible. I put up with a lot in the last couple years, but I think Invincirape is the last straw.

I'm almost curious as to what happens but at the same time I kinda don't want to know.

But yeah I sorta realized from The Walking Dead that Kirkman is a fun enough writer until he runs out of whatever meager direction he originally had, and then just ups the shock value because that's easy. I call it the DC Writing Method.

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


Lurdiak posted:

Man I think I jumped off Invincible the very first time someone got punched into meat confetti. Kirkman's the guy who had Luke Cage melt into a puddle and Speedball carry a severed arm around during a "lighthearted" Marvel Team-up issue, I feel like whatever strengths he has as a writer will always be eclipsed by his addiction to cheap shock value.

To be fair, that wasn't Speedball, but the Terror, whose entire preexisting gimmick is that he's a patchwork zombie man who attaches dismembered body parts to inherit skills. It worked in the context of the story and everyone called him out on being loving gross.

GrandpaPants posted:

I'm almost curious as to what happens but at the same time I kinda don't want to know.

It's really, really annoying because Kirkman has the tendency to write up some good plot points or ideas before completely overshadowing it with poo poo. A few months ago, he brought back Angstrom Levy, the reality-traveler guy from the Marvel Team-Up crossover issue. He has Eve as his hostage, waiting for Invincible to show up so he could destroy him and get his revenge. Eve talks him down over how worthless and petty revenge really is and convinces him that he's wrong about Mark. Invincible and an alternate reality Invincible show up and Levy explains his actions and that he understands that he was wrong and that Mark isn't the monster he thought he was. As he surrenders, Alt Invincible captures him and brings him to his home dimension to torture/kill him.

The final page is Mark going, "We're going to find him and bring him back." And I was so jazzed because that's such a great superhero moment. He's going to go save the guy who is no longer his enemy instead of letting him get tortured to death, even if he deserves it. He's going to prove him right that he is a real hero. That's so perfect!

Then in the next issue, he explains that he figures Levy will be back one day to attack his family so he might as well go into the dimension to make sure he stays gone. What.

Eve tells him not to do it and Mark agrees he won't but does so anyway with Robot. Robot turns on him, which is something Kirkman's been building to for a long time, murders Alt Invincible and Levy in easily the most violent of scenes in the book's history and strands Mark there. Presumably, Robot is going to return to their Earth and take over. In the previous issue, which was pretty good, Invincible figures out a way back to his Earth, bringing us to this week's issue.

Eve thought that Mark was dead and is super pissed when he returns, telling him that they're through, not even letting him explain. Then he flies off, only to be confronted by that one female Viltrumite. She wants to have a baby, but doesn't want a human to be its father. Invincible tells her to get lost and she beats him up, tears his clothes off, tears her own clothes off and then rapes him on the spot. Then she flies away, saying that she might have to try it a couple more times to make sure.

Yep.

ChikoDemono
Jul 10, 2007

He said that he would stay forever.

Forever wasn't very long...


Robot's heel turn was great and made me interested in the comic again. Then Invincible got Nightwing'd.

Sometimes I wonder how much more tolerable the comic would be if it was toned down to a PG-rating.

onefish
Jan 15, 2004

Marshal Radisic posted:

Gah, everyone's so close and yet so far. I've read this drat thing so many times already, so let me try.
[Manhattan Projects]
I think that's everything.

Thanks for this. I love reading Manhattan Projects, but *definitely* needed the clarification on overall structure and happenings.

RazedByNatives
Jul 1, 2004

Gavok posted:

Haha, welp! I am officially done with Invincible. I put up with a lot in the last couple years, but I think Invincirape is the last straw.

You're not the only one. The cherry on top is the letters page which starts like this:

quote:

Most people have been speculating about something terrible happening to Eve. But I don't think anyone anticipated something that bad happening to Mark. Ugh... I'm not even comfortable discussing that more here... But as for that bastard Robot, we got plenty of words for him...

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer
Oh, I'm staying on board this trainwreck until it stops burning. This is wonderfully bad.

Cheston
Jul 17, 2012

(he's got a good thing going)
How did I go two months without noticing Deadly Class? This is my favorite comic since Saga, it nailed so many things in 30 pages.

Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.
Ah, waking up, checking Comixology and discovering there's a new issue of Bandette out today certainly makes for a delightful a start to the day. I do wish they'd us know what happened to Matadori though, with each new issue comes an increasing sense of dread that those ruffians really did kill her...

Captain Candyblood
Aug 19, 2013

*The worse insults for the likpas and phallos as well.
The first issue of Translucid from BOOM! came out today! Did anyone else get it in the mail?

The 6-issue series is going to be about the dynamic between superhero the Navigator and his arch-nemesis the Horse. So far I like it; the coloring is absolutely gorgeous, the art is nice, and I'm looking forward to seeing what happens next.

onefish
Jan 15, 2004

Speaking of BOOM!

You might have to like "this sort of thing," but I had a blast with Lumberjanes, co-written by Noelle Stevenson (webcomic Nimona, general Internet Person) and Grace Ellis.

A really positive review: http://comicsalliance.com/lumberjanes-1-comic-book-review-boom-studios/

First three pages (so, Comixology sample) aren't immediately grabby, but I gave it a shot based on good reviews and wanting to see what was up, and it got really fun really fast. Funny, distinctive characters and world, thematically neat.

McGurk
Oct 20, 2004

Cuz life sucks, kids. Get it while you can.

Stray Bullets: Killers #2 came out this week. Virginia is back already, I was
expecting the focus to shift from her for a little longer. The first issue fits into place after seeing Eli comes around and he doesn't seem too hosed up emotionally like I figured he would be. The issue was fun for the most part, but the ending was so horribly depressing I don't want to read it again any time soon.

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer

Cheston posted:

How did I go two months without noticing Deadly Class? This is my favorite comic since Saga, it nailed so many things in 30 pages.

Deadly Class is pretty great. Hogwarts for assassins.

Unmature
May 9, 2008

Soonmot posted:

Deadly Class is pretty great. Hogwarts for assassins.

That's the best pitch I've heard for a comic in years. Looking into this now.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

TheManWithNoName posted:

Stray Bullets: Killers #2 came out this week. Virginia is back already, I was
expecting the focus to shift from her for a little longer. The first issue fits into place after seeing Eli comes around and he doesn't seem too hosed up emotionally like I figured he would be. The issue was fun for the most part, but the ending was so horribly depressing I don't want to read it again any time soon.

You know, I've been following this book since the first issue (even though mine's just a lowly 3rd printing), and have waiting for this series to start back for the better part of a decade, and after rereading the whole thing, on top of the two new books, I'm kinda dreading where the story is going. I'm not alone in thinking (SPOILER/THEORY) Virginia is the body in the trunk in the very first issue, right?

e: Also, next week, Evan Dorkin's releasing a new Eltingville book. I think I read he has one more stand-alone planned after this, then will collect all of them in one fancy schmancy hardcover. Can't wait!

http://evandorkin.livejournal.com/308685.html

ruddiger fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Apr 18, 2014

Shitshow
Jul 25, 2007

We still have not found a machine that can measure the intensity of love. We would all buy it.

ruddiger posted:

I'm not alone in thinking (SPOILER/THEORY) Virginia is the body in the trunk in the very first issue, right?

No, I started to wonder that myself about halfway through the series.

McGurk
Oct 20, 2004

Cuz life sucks, kids. Get it while you can.

Shitshow posted:

No, I started to wonder that myself about halfway through the series.

This is my fear as well, I really can't see her choosing that route, but you never know.

Crazy Joe Wilson
Jul 4, 2007

Justifiably Mad!
So I just learned that there was an even-exclusive BPRD:Hell on Earth comic two months ago. Anyone know if it's going to be included in a collection?

Waterhaul
Nov 5, 2005


it was a nice post,
you shouldn't have signed it.



Was going through my stack and got Genesis by Alison Sampson and Nathan Edmonson which was really good. Sampson's style reminds me a lot of Travel Foreman and just does such great work with the architecture of the page. She has some preview pages up on her tumblr but the stuff in the book manages to be even better.



It's a done in one story about a guy who gets the power to create whatever he wants and plays out as an interesting fable. Edmondson manages to be just what it should and keeps things dream like enough but also explains just the right amount that you want from the book, really good stuff.

DoctorDelaware
Mar 24, 2013
Recently discovered that there is a Rocky & Bullwinkle comic from IDW, so I picked that up. I was somewhat excited to see that Roger Langridge was involved--he did great work on the Muppet Show comics from a few years ago--but it turns out he's only drawing R&B. This was unfortunate, because Mark Evanier doesn't really seem to have a grasp on R&B's style of humor; I think I only had one actual laugh from those two issues.

Waterhaul
Nov 5, 2005


it was a nice post,
you shouldn't have signed it.



Given that Glory is done and Prophet is ending soon Image are rolling along with a new reboot/relaunch/reimaging/re-whatever of another old Liefeld property. This time it's his an Alan Moore's old book Supreme but with Warren Ellis and Tula Lotay doing it. Ellis is Ellis and I've really liked what I've seen from Lotay's stuff. Should be good.



quote:

You are not dreaming.
We are trying to communicate with you.
Local reality has been reinstalled.
Things have gone wrong.
The revision has corrupted.
Finding Ethan Crane is your supreme priority.
We are speaking to you from the ultimate bunker within the structure of multiversal time.
Do not trust Darius Dax.
We are all going to die.

source

I'd guess it will follow Diana Dane the Lois Lane stand in?

RevKrule
Jul 9, 2001

Thrilling the forums since 2001

Waterhaul posted:

Given that Glory is done and Prophet is ending soon Image are rolling along with a new reboot/relaunch/reimaging/re-whatever of another old Liefeld property. This time it's his an Alan Moore's old book Supreme but with Warren Ellis and Tula Lotay doing it. Ellis is Ellis and I've really liked what I've seen from Lotay's stuff. Should be good.



source

I'd guess it will follow Diana Dane the Lois Lane stand in?

Just an off topic here, how the gently caress did Liefeld not get sued for Diana Dane??? It's one of the most transparent rip offs I think I've ever seen.

StumblyWumbly
Sep 12, 2007

Batmanticore!

RevKrule posted:

Just an off topic here, how the gently caress did Liefeld not get sued for Diana Dane??? It's one of the most transparent rip offs I think I've ever seen.

Has anyone ever been successfully sued for ripping off a character? Not actual use, like happens with Peter Pan or some parts of Holmes, but ripping off in the way Supreme, Samaritan, Hyperion, etc all rip off Superman.

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Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

StumblyWumbly posted:

Has anyone ever been successfully sued for ripping off a character? Not actual use, like happens with Peter Pan or some parts of Holmes, but ripping off in the way Supreme, Samaritan, Hyperion, etc all rip off Superman.

Didn't Liefeld get in trouble for some character that was really similar to Captain America? Also, I think Kirby & Simon had to change Cap's shield from its original shape to round because it was too similar to the character The Shield.

edit: here we are

Wikipedia posted:

At Awesome, Liefeld and Loeb modified their unpublished Captain America plots and art pages in order to publish them as their own character, Agent America, which was nearly identical in appearance and background to Captain America, but Liefeld canceled these plans under legal pressure from Marvel, over similarities between the two characters. Thinking that it would be more feasible to use the pages by modifying them into an established character, Liefeld attempted to acquire the rights to Fighting American, another patriotic-themed character created in 1954 by Jack Kirby and Joe Simon, but when the rights holders offered the rights at a price Liefeld thought was too high, he created a similar character, Agent America, in order to compel the Fighting American rights holders to acquiesce to Liefeld's offered price. The rights holders considered taking legal action over the similarity of Agent America to Fighting American, though it was Marvel who eventually did so, contending similarities between Agent America and Captain America. Before the lawsuit went to trial, Liefeld finalized the licensing deal to Fighting American. Marvel's suit against Liefeld was settled with the provisions that Liefeld's version of Fighting American would undergo some cosmetic changes to his costume, and could not throw his shield (a signature trait of Captain America), in order to distinguish it sufficiently from Captain America.

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