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The 7th Guest: Dec 17, 2003

Alex Smith is above league replacement and that's not the worst fate for a drafted QB. There are plenty of QBs taken in the 1st round since Alex Smith that aren't even playing football anymore. Vince Young, Matt Leinart, JaMarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Tim Tebow, all out of the NFL. Several of them with stronger arms, bigger frames, better measurables. Smith's still going, still starting.

If you draft a QB and they're the next Alex Smith (TODAY Alex Smith, that is), that's far from a bust. I think that's what some GMs might be hoping to get with AJ McCarron.

I think there are some similarities between Bridgewater and Smith, in terms of having high football IQ, being excellent in the intermediate passing game, having adequate mobility (although Smith is a better runner). I think the talk about Bridgewater's wobbly throws at his pro day is completely overblown. Put on the tape, he has the velocity. If he flames out, it will be for cerebral reasons.

The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Mar 31, 2014

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shiksa: Nov 9, 2009; i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

Man I really hope AJ McCarron either gets picked in the first and flames out spectacularly or goes undrafted and goes away forever.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 19:09

Gumbel2Gumbel: Apr 28, 2010

Chichevache posted:

Alex Smith wouldn't have completed the 50 yard bomb to Kearse in the NFC Championship.

Alex Smith let a bunch of bombs go that were promptly dropped by his stone handed receivers. There were two in their last playoff game that were perfectly placed and in stride that were such cringeworthy drops I almost fell off the couch

# ? Mar 31, 2014 19:10

Chichevache: Feb 17, 2010; One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Gumbel2Gumbel posted:

Alex Smith let a bunch of bombs go that were promptly dropped by his stone handed receivers. There were two in their last playoff game that were perfectly placed and in stride that were such cringeworthy drops I almost fell off the couch

Well that's where Wilson's intangibles come in.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 19:12

PrinceRandom: Feb 26, 2013

Chichevache posted:

Well that's where Wilson's intangibles come in.

I think having receivers that can catch goes under "locker room leader"

# ? Mar 31, 2014 19:14

Alaois: Feb 7, 2012

PrinceRandom posted:

I think having receivers that can catch goes under "locker room leader"

See: Newton, Cameron

# ? Mar 31, 2014 19:16

shiksa: Nov 9, 2009; i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

Alouicious posted:

See: Newton, Cameron

You never see Russell Wilson with a towel on his head. That's because he's one of The Good Ones.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 19:17

Chichevache: Feb 17, 2010; One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Alouicious posted:

See: Newton, Cameron

You remember when Steve Smith was one of the best receivers in the league? I do. It was before Cam got there. Then Cam showed up and Smith got old and bad. Coincidence? :tinfoil:

# ? Mar 31, 2014 19:28

Chilichimp: Oct 24, 2006; TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp; Grimey Drawer

Quest For Glory II posted:

Alex Smith is above league replacement and that's not the worst fate for a drafted QB. There are plenty of QBs taken in the 1st round since Alex Smith that aren't even playing football anymore. Vince Young, Matt Leinart, JaMarcus Russell, Brady Quinn, Tim Tebow, all out of the NFL. Several of them with stronger arms, bigger frames, better measurables. Smith's still going, still starting.

If you draft a QB and they're the next Alex Smith (TODAY Alex Smith, that is), that's far from a bust. I think that's what some GMs might be hoping to get with AJ McCarron.

I think there are some similarities between Bridgewater and Smith, in terms of having high football IQ, being excellent in the intermediate passing game, having adequate mobility (although Smith is a better runner). I think the talk about Bridgewater's wobbly throws at his pro day is completely overblown. Put on the tape, he has the velocity. If he flames out, it will be for cerebral reasons.

It's more than just a possibility that Bridgewater doesn't WANT to start for a lovely team his rookie season, and would rather ride a bench for less money for a few years while he adapts his game... therefore poo poo up his pro-day.

All of that still might not save him from the Browns.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 19:30

The 7th Guest: Dec 17, 2003

There is probably a 0% chance of that. They're going for as much money as possible. There is no guaranteed 'next contract' to assume.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 19:33

Amy Pole Her: Jun 17, 2002

No, no there is not MORE than a possibility. That's the dumbest thing ever

# ? Mar 31, 2014 19:35

No Safe Word: Feb 26, 2005

Chilichimp posted:

It's more than just a possibility that Bridgewater doesn't WANT to start for a lovely team his rookie season, and would rather ride a bench for less money for a few years while he adapts his game... therefore poo poo up his pro-day.

All of that still might not save him from the Browns.

"Yeah, I could have a guaranteed high-paying NFL starting QB job, but gently caress that it might be with the Texans, Jags, or Browns so here goes nothing" *puts some wobble on the ball*

# ? Mar 31, 2014 19:39

shiksa: Nov 9, 2009; i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

Bridgewater leaned back in his chair, watching the tweets and PFF comments flood his monitors. "It's working," he laughed, "my plan to be drafted 47th overall by the Cowboys is working!"

# ? Mar 31, 2014 19:39

WHOOPS: Nov 6, 2009

Bridgewater will slip out of the top 10 and when we cut to the greenroom, he's celebrating straight out of the itshappening.gif

# ? Mar 31, 2014 19:43

Miko: May 20, 2001; Where I come from, there's no such thing as kryptonite.

Yeah, just so there's some numbers, in 2012 Luck and RG3 made over $20mil/4yr on their rookie contracts. The 8th overall, Ryan Tannehill got about $12mil/4yr.

EJ Manuel just signed a $8.8mil/5yr contract last season for getting picked 16th. And he still has to play in Buffalo.

Bridgewater isn't metagaming this whole system.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 19:47

PrinceRandom: Feb 26, 2013

Teddy checks his phone
"gently caress, Rob Rang has me goin' to Oakland"
Hits Dennis Allen in the nuts with football

# ? Mar 31, 2014 19:48

Chilichimp: Oct 24, 2006; TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp; Grimey Drawer

PrinceRandom posted:

Teddy checks his phone
"gently caress, Rob Rang has me goin' to Oakland"
Hits Dennis Allen in the nuts with football

Perfection.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 19:50

Parmesan Basil: Nov 12, 2008; TIME IS THE FIRE IN WHICH WE BURN THE GAME CLOCK

Alex Smith sucks. Teddy Bridgewater owns. Teddy needs to be a Chief but he won't because that would be dumb. The end

# ? Mar 31, 2014 20:04

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Absolutely no player ever thinks it would be better to fall on draft day just so they could go to a better team.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 20:08

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Ozu posted:

Absolutely no player ever thinks it would be better to fall on draft day just so they could go to a better team.

Didn't Eli essentially tell the Chargers not to draft him.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 20:11

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Dexo posted:

Didn't Eli essentially tell the Chargers not to draft him.

Ok, caveat, any player not funded by the Bank of Manning. Eli still ended up getting the 2nd highest signing bonus ever (after Peyton) as a rookie though, even with his whining.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 20:16

Miko: May 20, 2001; Where I come from, there's no such thing as kryptonite.

I think that was mainly Archie's PTSD from his Saints years kicking in and the Chargers looked like another Manning black hole to him, so he told Eli to steer clear.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 20:17

shiksa: Nov 9, 2009; i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

Dexo posted:

Didn't Eli essentially tell the Chargers not to draft him.

I mean players have told teams to get hosed, like Elway, Eli, or Bo Jackson (who had pretty real reasons to tell Tampa off) but usually they just get their rights traded away.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 20:19

bewbies: Sep 23, 2003; Fun Shoe

PrinceRandom posted:

Teddy checks his phone
"gently caress, Rob Rang has me goin' to Oakland"
Hits Dennis Allen in the nuts with football

This made me laugh inappropriately loudly at work.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 20:25

Chilichimp: Oct 24, 2006; TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp; Grimey Drawer

Dexo posted:

Didn't Eli essentially tell the Chargers not to draft him.

Drew Brees, you stupid bastard.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 20:40

Azhais: Feb 5, 2007; Switchblade Switcharoo

Rooster Brooster posted:

If JFF goes to the Vikings, the NFCN will have the ownsiest lineup of quarterbacks of any division. Just funslingin' all day every day.

On the topic of smoke screens...

http://nfl.si.com/2014/03/31/johnny-manziel-red-flags-2014-nfl-draft/

Zimmer says there were some "Red Flags" with their meeting with Manziel

# ? Mar 31, 2014 21:50

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Azhais posted:

On the topic of smoke screens...

http://nfl.si.com/2014/03/31/johnny-manziel-red-flags-2014-nfl-draft/

Zimmer says there were some "Red Flags" with their meeting with Manziel

I mean look at Peyton and all of the ads he does. Does he have the dedication to be an NFL quarterback.

That's like the most pathetic smokescreen ever.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 21:53

The 7th Guest: Dec 17, 2003

The logic is sound, though, Brady Quinn was in commercials before the draft and we know how that turned out

# ? Mar 31, 2014 21:53

a neat cape: Feb 22, 2007; Aw hunny, these came out GREAT!

Chilichimp posted:

Drew Brees, you stupid bastard.

What did Brees have to do with anything

# ? Mar 31, 2014 22:05

Democratic Pirate: Feb 17, 2010

Azhais posted:

On the topic of smoke screens...

http://nfl.si.com/2014/03/31/johnny-manziel-red-flags-2014-nfl-draft/

Zimmer says there were some "Red Flags" with their meeting with Manziel

After his pro day? There may have been some maroon flags in the room and he just got confused about the color.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 22:08

Intruder: Mar 5, 2003; I got a taste for blown saves

Zimmer also got really old man angry about the Drake music at the pro day

# ? Mar 31, 2014 22:09

shiksa: Nov 9, 2009; i went to one of these wrestling shows and it was... honestly? frickin boring. i wanna see ricky! i want to see his gold chains and respect for the ftw lifestyle

Intruder posted:

Zimmer also got really old man angry about the Drake music at the pro day

What's the classic rock station in Minneapolis? That's what'll be playing at Vikings practices now.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 22:13

Dexo: Aug 15, 2009; A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.

Intruder posted:

Zimmer also got really old man angry about the Drake music at the pro day

Someone who listens to Drake like that doesn't have the proper mindset to be a QB. Too much pining for ex's, not enough gently caress bitches get money.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 22:13

Azhais: Feb 5, 2007; Switchblade Switcharoo

Democratic Pirate posted:

After his pro day? There may have been some maroon flags in the room and he just got confused about the color.

I guess to be fair it didn't actually say red flags, just flags. So maybe Zimmer got confused by some semaphore.

shiksa posted:

What's the classic rock station in Minneapolis? That's what'll be playing at Vikings practices now.

Cool 108. It starts playing Christmas music 24/7 in early November however, so not sure that's a quality option.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 22:14

PrinceRandom: Feb 26, 2013

If you own the Vikings and aren't forcing Wagner to be played at every practice you're a lovely owner.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 22:21

The Puppy Bowl: Jan 31, 2013; A dog, in the house.

*woof*

Dexo posted:

Someone who listens to Drake like that doesn't have the proper mindset to be a QB. Too much pining for ex's, not enough gently caress bitches get money.

umm...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0b3COanjHoo

The real question with a Drake fan is if they have the requisite patriotism to lead Americans. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0288937/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1a

# ? Mar 31, 2014 22:40

Pron on VHS: Nov 14, 2005; Blood Clots
Sweat Dries
Bones Heal
Suck it Up and Keep Wrestling

Beady Quinn's "now im done" Myoplex campaign is what got me interested in building my muscles as a college freshman

# ? Mar 31, 2014 22:41

Diva Cupcake: Aug 15, 2005

Mayock trolls TFF, bumps Manziel up to his #1 QB.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000338425/article/mike-mayocks-updated-position-rankings-for-2014-nfl-draft

# ? Mar 31, 2014 22:46

The 7th Guest: Dec 17, 2003

Mayock used to be kind of a cool draftnik but now he's just a part of The Draft Game like everyone else.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 22:47

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# ? May 23, 2024 20:30

The Puppy Bowl: Jan 31, 2013; A dog, in the house.

*woof*

Call me a stickler but a top 5 list shouldn't have 7 names on it.

# ? Mar 31, 2014 22:50

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