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Zoness posted:When people say this and that losebear (i.e. a Grizzly Bears with like "5G: You lose the game" on it) thing I think they're vastly underestimating newer players but then people ask why the firebreathing-with-a-drawback ability on Satyr Firedrinker is any good so v I agree, but every time I assume they understand even the most basic things they rise to the challenge and surprise me. I've heard newer players during M13 draft wonder aloud why anyone would pick Farseek, "It doesn't DO anything...."
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Zoness posted:When people say this and that losebear (i.e. a Grizzly Bears with like "5G: You lose the game" on it) thing I think they're vastly underestimating newer players but then people ask why the firebreathing-with-a-drawback ability on Satyr Firedrinker is any good so v
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BaronVonVaderham posted:I agree, but every time I assume they understand even the most basic things they rise to the challenge and surprise me. I've heard newer players during M13 draft wonder aloud why anyone would pick Farseek, "It doesn't DO anything...." Well, if you don't think about splashing colors, then farseek really doesn't do anything.
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Mar 31, 2014 22:26
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I'm surprised at the farseek anecdote; landcycling (which is just fixing and not acceleration) I can see, but in my anecdotal experience, mana acceleration is one of the faster things for new players to dig why they'd wanna do it.  GONNA CAST MY YAVIMAYA WURM A TURN EARLIEROn the other hand, as said new player, I didn't understand why the Mirage diamonds were better than pieces of Ramos, because I didn't understand the concept of mana curve.
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Has anyone ever bought a wholesale lot of rares from SCG? I'm considering a 100-pack of what I'd assume are basically junk rares, but my concern is actually condition - can anyone shed any light if they use the wholesale bin as an opportunity to dump their scuffed up garbage product?
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Landcycling in OLS limited loving ruled, it was sweet to be able to throw all these huge creatures in your deck and not have to worry about them ever being dead. Plus it allowed you to keep 2-land hands where before you had to worry about not being able to cast any morphs if you didn't draw a 3rd. Krosan Tusker was sweet too for pretty similar reasons. 5GG for a 6/5 Beast or 2G for landcycling+cycling. Neither side was a bomb but the flexibility was huge. Recess Rapist posted:Has anyone ever bought a wholesale lot of rares from SCG? There was a guy who posted on the Magic subreddit recently saying never to do this. He did and they shipped him the maximum amount of dupes that the purchase order would allow them, plus they shorted him 9 cards. Condition was supposedly fine though.
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Recess Rapist posted:Has anyone ever bought a wholesale lot of rares from SCG? Read this post on reddit about rare lots from there the other day, http://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/21pxck/dont_buy_wholesale_lots_from_star_city/. Apparently, when they say you will get no more than X duplicates, they mean that all your cards will have X duplicates  . The post is about a 1000 rare lot though, so it may not apply to what you are buying.
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Myriad Truths posted:I love Theros because Bestow is an awesome mechanic with a lot of design space, and making 7/7 flying vigilance lifelinkers with some resistance to creature removal was pretty much all I wanted to do anyway.
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"Cycling from play" a la Urza's Destiny (and Horizon Canopy, yes) is something I'd love to see come back, but that's because I'm a weird nostalgia guy.
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JerryLee posted:"Cycling from play" a la Urza's Destiny (and Horizon Canopy, yes) is something I'd love to see come back, but that's because I'm a weird nostalgia guy. Hey, the Cluestones did this! ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED
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Fox of Stone posted:I still find it really weird that nerds love JRPGs and anime but in the realm of cardboard it falls flat. L5R didn't do so hot either from what I recall. I am probably omega japanese mythology nerd and kamigawa was a clusterfuck from what i can tell; barely any mechanics are really resonant, while they "got" shinto they included nothing else from the mythology and layered on lots of weird poo poo instead, and it was wayyyyyy too "anime".
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Zorak posted:I am probably omega japanese mythology nerd and kamigawa was a clusterfuck from what i can tell; barely any mechanics are really resonant, while they "got" shinto they included nothing else from the mythology and layered on lots of weird poo poo instead, and it was wayyyyyy too "anime". Are you saying Tamiyo was too anime? Get outta here...
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Chorocojo posted:I expect tengu and other youkai and the stories about them. I expect things like the Dragon Palace and Kintaro and Susano-o. Kamigawa did not have this. Instead it had lawful kitsune samurai, snake people with six limbs and extinct Kappa. Eh on the specifics like Susano-o but I see your point about some more generic stuff. Unfortunately, the general tengu tricker temperament meant they were competing with a goblin variant in the red creature spot. There was some inspiration from tengu masks for the eventual visual design of the akki, but the prevalence of crow forms among tengu depictions meant they lost out. A red tribe who ought to have consistent flying, and would therefore demand it several times in the low rarities, wasn't going to pass. White kitsune got in based on the fox servants of Inari. Between serving someone and Inari's association with rice fields, the foxfolk shrank from their initial places in several colours to taking up a more prominent place just in white.
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Sleep of Bronze posted:Eh on the specifics like Susano-o but I see your point about some more generic stuff. Unfortunately, the general tengu tricker temperament meant they were competing with a goblin variant in the red creature spot. There was some inspiration from tengu masks for the eventual visual design of the akki, but the prevalence of crow forms among tengu depictions meant they lost out. A red tribe who ought to have consistent flying, and would therefore demand it several times in the low rarities, wasn't going to pass. White kitsune got in based on the fox servants of Inari. Between serving someone and Inari's association with rice fields, the foxfolk shrank from their initial places in several colours to taking up a more prominent place just in white. I completely missed Kamigawa, but did they do any of the wacky Tsukumogami monsters like animated umbrellas and possessed sandals? It seems pretty obvious that they could have used them for artifact creatures.
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There were no artifact creatures in Kamigawa. I don't know if anything particularly fit the "possessed mundane object" among the colors, the spirits with connections to mundane objects (like Lantern Kami) were pretty out there, design-wise.
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Say what you will about Kamigawa, the designs on the spirits were really cool, to me.
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Cactrot posted:I completely missed Kamigawa, but did they do any of the wacky Tsukumogami monsters like animated umbrellas and possessed sandals? I bet they might have done some cool artifact creatures if Kamigawa didn't follow the block that contained Ravager Affinity.
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Attorney at Funk posted:I bet they might have done some cool artifact creatures if Kamigawa didn't follow the block that contained Ravager Affinity.
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drat it, I thought I'd recreate my Pauper Commander deck on MTGO because it's an easy format for my new-to-MTGO friend to build into, but it looks like you can't even play Pauper Commander because the stupid client won't recognize Drogskol Captain as a valid Commander in the sideboard, I guess since it's not legendary? Oh well, at least I only spent like 3 of tickets already in my account to cobble this pile together.
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Boco_T posted:drat it, I thought I'd recreate my Pauper Commander deck on MTGO because it's an easy format for my new-to-MTGO friend to build into, but it looks like you can't even play Pauper Commander because the stupid client won't recognize Drogskol Captain as a valid Commander in the sideboard, I guess since it's not legendary? Oh well, at least I only spent like 3 of tickets already in my account to cobble this pile together. Well, yeah, the rules for "Commander" are that the commander has to be legendary, so it makes sense that the legality checker would check for that? I'm not sure what you were expecting. If there isn't official support for the niche variant you're trying to play that specifically has different legality rules, then the game is going to barf when you try doing something that's illegal as far as it knows, yes. There are legendary creatures at uncommon and common, so you and your friend could play peasant commander with those, if you aren't too married to whatever you were trying to do with Drogskol Captain. JerryLee fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Apr 1, 2014 |
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Yeah it's fine, I'll just make a different deck to play online with a different theme. No big deal. It's just weird, it seems like it would be literally no work for them to have like "Freeform Commander" or something so that at least you can use that "mode". Oh well, something to do this week.
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morning wood posted:Opened three Theros packs today and got a Labyrinth Champion, Nighthowler, and a Temple of Triumph. That's...not awful? I mean, the Champion is trash, but the Temple is worth more than a booster, and nighthowler has some upside, if this golgari deck catches on. I mean, it's better than the firedrinker satyr, polis crusher, colossus of akros that I got from opening 3 packs this weekend. (That is the three packs that reminded me to just take store credit for winnings and not packs). Don't open for value is the point here.
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PrinnySquadron posted:L5R's still going. Nowhere the numbers of MTG but its got a pretty devoted fanbase. Number of players took a hit last arc due to oppressive decks though. Yeah, no. L5R is down over 90% of its playerbase (and sales) from its peak because AEG has done everything in its power to sabotage every CCG they have produced at every turn. This isn't new, and it actually started back under FRPG.
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morning wood posted:Opened three Theros packs today and got a Labyrinth Champion, Nighthowler, and a Temple of Triumph. I opened my FNM prize packs and one of them had an arbiter of the ideal and a foil arbiter of the ideal in the same pack...
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i hope the next set is on muraganda. I want magic dinosaurs and poo poo.
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Molybdenum posted:i hope the next set is on muraganda. I want magic dinosaurs and poo poo. Iquatana sounds like a pretty cool place to visit.
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Thanks for the advice. I have no plans to start buying expensive cards for a while but I'll definitely be hitting up the local store for some boosters and events. Definitely going to be going to trying to draft for rare cards/cards in the mtgtop8 decks. I'll probably lose a lot but you learn from losses. I'll probably stick with Standard for the time being since I don't really have the card base to build good decks for the others. Edit: Is it a thing for people who are obviously not new/relearning to be in the Just Starting Out queue on MTGO? My last 3 matches have been against people with Planeswalkers, lots of non-basic lands, and lots of foils. Obsoletely Fabulous fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Apr 1, 2014 |
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Boxman posted:That's...not awful? I mean, the Champion is trash, but the Temple is worth more than a booster, and nighthowler has some upside, if this golgari deck catches on. I suppose it's not terrible. When I open boosters I usually am hoping to get something I want to use in a new deck or something tradeable. I already have a playset of the temples so I was slightly bummed.
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morning wood posted:Opened three Theros packs today and got a Labyrinth Champion, Nighthowler, and a Temple of Triumph. Congrats on opening two good cards, I guess.
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morning wood posted:I suppose it's not terrible. When I open boosters I usually am hoping to get something I want to use in a new deck or something tradeable. I already have a playset of the temples so I was slightly bummed. Don't do this. Seriously. The EV on a Theros booster is $1.75. You aren't going to get tradable, or even playable, stuff regularly. And getting ~bummed~ because you got a playable, tradable card that you have a playset of is a dumb reaction considering your stated goals.
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I just got 23 Nighthowlers in the mail today. I would like that card to go somewhere.
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Toshimo posted:Don't do this. Seriously. The EV on a Theros booster is $1.75. You aren't going to get tradable, or even playable, stuff regularly. And getting ~bummed~ because you got a playable, tradable card that you have a playset of is a dumb reaction considering your stated goals. Is there a site tracking the breakdown on the EV of different boosters?
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ScarletBrother posted:I just got 23 Nighthowlers in the mail today. I would like that card to go somewhere. I'd take a few  Nighthowler is on my list of standard cards people dont appreciate enough, along with prognostic sphinx and agent of the fates.
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mango sentinel posted:Is there a site tracking the breakdown on the EV of different boosters? The answer for any booster is "less than half of what you paid for it".
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Death Bot posted:I have a playset of promo Howlers that I traded for a scryland. I feel like I will have eventually won that one?? They're already $4 each, so you've already come out way ahead.
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Okay, so the April Fools articles on the mothership today are mostly terrible, but Reconstructed gives us MURDERCATS. (As well as taking the piss out of Gavin's usual completely missing the point and making any unique idea he gets into Jund).
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mango sentinel posted:Is there a site tracking the breakdown on the EV of different boosters? MTGStocks
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