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En Fuego posted:I don't normally buy expensive cards ... but this one was toooooo pretty. What a cool card, didn't know about it before. Was it part of a cycle? I'm guessing not, since I found the time-shifted Gauntlet of Power that gives the effect to the colour you pick.
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BizarroAzrael posted:What a cool card, didn't know about it before. Was it part of a cycle? I'm guessing not, since I found the time-shifted Gauntlet of Power that gives the effect to the colour you pick. Nope, they just made the red one.
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BizarroAzrael posted:What a cool card, didn't know about it before. Was it part of a cycle? I'm guessing not, since I found the time-shifted Gauntlet of Power that gives the effect to the colour you pick. Welcome to old school design. Hey remember that cool thing from our DND campaign? How about this fantasy trope? Toss that poo poo in man! If you ever look at magic through time and see design in a very pulled back view, they used to just make cards. This literally someone said how about a magic glove that makes red better! Then they made mechanical themes for sets like "ok this set will have mechanic X, Y, and Z. They also dabbled with story via cards, like weatherlight was telling a story about the crew etc so the names and card etc were all about the story itself. Now they make, blocks that tie flavor and mechanics together in this way that everything says "this block is about this." like Theros is about gods, hero's and monsters. So the names, flavor, art, mechanics all enhance that statement. The Theros block isn't about a story. There is a story, but its not really what the block is about as much as its in the block if that makes sense. There are new mechanics but Theros isn't about devotion, monstrous, heroic, the mechanics serve the design of Gods, Heroes, and Monsters not the other way around. I love Maro's podcasts when he gets into stuff like this. They basically said ok this is greek block. enchantments are important. How do we define greek block. He came up with the theme gods, heroes and monsters, and everything flowed from that. They decided things like enchantments are manifestations of gods or god powers, they gave each category a mechanic, and so on.
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jassi007 posted:Welcome to old school design. Hey remember that cool thing from our DND campaign? Toss that poo poo in man! Basically, this is how Legends was made, to a degree. 
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My favorite example of this is The Dark literally just has Frankenstein's Monster in it. No reason. They just thought it would be cool.
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Dear MODO, What is "Loading Deck Files..." and why do I, a person with less than half a dozen decks, have to sit through 10 minutes of it to time-out a match that I'm reconnecting to? Twice in two days! Sincerely, AlsoD
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AlsoD posted:Dear MODO, Dear AlsoD "Loading Deck Files...." is our personal way of saying gently caress You. You have to sit through it, just like whatever random schlub I decide to crap out on today. Now give me all your tickets or you will never be able to Cube Draft again. Sincerely, Modo
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The worst ever Future Sight: Forget I had lethal, and think of the Daxosing that would have happened!
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Entropic posted:I wish there was a site that collated price lists from the old rags like Inquest and Scrye back in the day. I'd love to see charts of the price history on cards in Ice Age and Alliances and Homelands when they first came out. I think Balduvian Horde was when people started finally realizing that a card was worth more than a few life. It was hailed as the new Juzam Djinn until they realized that. Also it was missing the other part of what made Juzam so good, the Dark Ritual that allowed you to play it on turn 1 or 2.
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Promoted Pawn posted:I think Balduvian Horde was when people started finally realizing that a card was worth more than a few life. It was hailed as the new Juzam Djinn until they realized that. Also it was missing the other part of what made Juzam so good, the Dark Ritual that allowed you to play it on turn 1 or 2. I don't know about that because people were still hyped about Lord of Tresserhorn, which ultimately was only good for decking people slightly faster in the basically unplayable Alliances limited format.
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BizarroAzrael posted:What a cool card, didn't know about it before. Was it part of a cycle? I'm guessing not, since I found the time-shifted Gauntlet of Power that gives the effect to the colour you pick. Yeah, it's actually going into my Zirilian of the Claw commander deck, along with a Gauntlet of Power & Caged Sun & Extraplanar Lens (REDUNDANCY BUILDS POWER)!
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OK doing another April Fools sealed right meow. http://www.hitbox.tv/marchhare
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Toshimo posted:No. Autumn Willow topped out at $10-12. And she saw more tournament play than any of the rest. I think that was more due to the rule that your deck needed cards from all expansions currently legal in type 1 and she was the last unplayable
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I think that was more due to the rule that your deck needed cards from all expansions currently legal in type 1 and she was the last unplayable She was a 4/4 that your opponent could never target. She was very good back in the day.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I think that was more due to the rule that your deck needed cards from all expansions currently legal in type 1 and she was the last unplayable That was a thing for like one high profile tournament, it was never a general rule.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I think that was more due to the rule that your deck needed cards from all expansions currently legal in type 1 and she was the last unplayable You might be thinking of Serrated Arrows, which was run as creature removal despite that rule but probably satisfied most of the Homelands requirements for a few decks. edit: ^Yeah I think just the first pro tour used that format
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AlsoD posted:Dear MODO, AlsoD, "Loading Deck Files..." means "Initializing Data Mining Process..." It's just our way of using your rig to mine some bitcoins. We hope you don't mind. Love, MODO (   )
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Data Mining is a totally different than bitcoins, they're not related at all.
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Entropic posted:Data Mining is a totally different W-what if it's doing both?!
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TheCondor posted:You might be thinking of Serrated Arrows, which was run as creature removal despite that rule but probably satisfied most of the Homelands requirements for a few decks. I find it funny that Homelands gave us loving Merchant Scroll of all things. It's like, 'here, have a bunch of lovely cards, a few mediocre sideboard cards, and a sweet eternal playable tutor.'
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Duel Decks: Speed vs Cunning announced. Also: Planeswalkers Guide to Journey Into Nyx
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 Hoping Kruphix's card is as cool as his art.
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New gods seem pretty awesome. Can someone clear up a lore point for me? Is Xenagos's ascension actually wreaking havoc with the plane on some fundamental level, or is it more the other gods going  and threatening to take it out on everyone else? In other words, would there actually be a problem if it wasn't for the gods' egos?The article makes it seem like it's the latter, and it seems fitting insofar as "the gods' egos are the problem" is Greek mythology as all gently caress.
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JerryLee posted:New gods seem pretty awesome. It's definitely the latter. The Gods are throwing a shitfit that a Mortal joined their number / that they were tricked by Xenagos. Elspeth is trying to get things back to normal so they settle the gently caress down. Also interestingly, the end blurb seems to hint at the fact that this Pantheon, much like the Olympians of Greek mythology, aren't the first Gods. We've seen other hints of this with the lore behind the Archons and some of the other monsters that explicitly stated to predate the current pantheon.
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JerryLee posted:New gods seem pretty awesome. "The gods are assholes" is kind of a plot point. Xenagos is also an rear end in a top hat, but he's not being a hypocrite about it. See: Reckless Revelry's flavour text. I don't think he's fundamentally altering the plane, but he is shifting the power balance in a big way and is a pretty major threat to civilisation as Theros knows it (hence, he's R/G). If Elspeth wasn't the 'protagonist of the narrative' (inasmuch as she is), there'd be a decent chance he would have been the hero instead - though we probably would have seen the bad side of the gods a lot more if they did that. Also, Terese Nielsen's art is incredible.
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JerryLee posted:New gods seem pretty awesome. Agreed, this only cements my stance that enemy-color pairs are inherently cooler than ally-color pairs. Also, new Ajani walker all but confirmed? Though I don't know if there's enough evidence to say he'd be GW for sure.
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JerryLee posted:New gods seem pretty awesome. That's pretty much exactly what it sounds like, particularly since none of them can apparently cooperate despite the fact that Xenagos is apparently pissing them all off. Another day in Theros, I suppose. Kruphix is pretty loving kick rear end looking though. However, Athreos is by far the raddest. Whatever he does, I want to find out.
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C-Euro posted:Agreed, this only cements my stance that enemy-color pairs are inherently cooler than ally-color pairs. I can't speak to the lore of Alara, but I remember hearing another possibility that I hadn't considered; that they may reprint Ajani Vengeant. Seems unlikely since land destruction isn't something they print very often, but it's the only other alternative as I don't think they'd have two mono-white walkers in the same block.
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:I can't speak to the lore of Alara, but I remember hearing another possibility that I hadn't considered; that they may reprint Ajani Vengeant. Seems unlikely since land destruction isn't something they print very often, but it's the only other alternative as I don't think they'd have two mono-white walkers in the same block. If new Ajani isn't GW I'm going to
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:I can't speak to the lore of Alara, but I remember hearing another possibility that I hadn't considered; that they may reprint Ajani Vengeant. Seems unlikely since land destruction isn't something they print very often, but it's the only other alternative as I don't think they'd have two mono-white walkers in the same block. Considering the LD is a walker ultimate, I'm pretty sure it's outside the realm of "should we print this" logic. There really is no upper limit on the power of an ultimate, the only concern is getting the loyalty numbers right.
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^^^ Look at Ajani's nice green banners hangin' all over him, he's totally green this time around. Xenagos ascending to godhood has had actual effects on Theros besides making the gods all uppity: PW guide to BNG posted:A Pantheon Disrupted Basically look at what's happening on Nyxborn Shieldmate - there's a dude from a mural busting out into the mortal world. It makes the world way, way more dangerous when a Kraken from the realm of the gods can just appear in your living room. Hopefully Elspeth and Ajani can tear all the gods back into the mortal realm as punishment for being babies, too. NO GODS NO MASTERS
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Kabanaw posted:NO GODS NO MASTERS I am Xenagos, and I'm here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Akros, 'It belongs to the king.' 'No!' says the man in Meletis, 'It belongs to the gods.' 'No!' says the woman in Setessa, 'It belongs to the children.' I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... to throw a bitchin' rave and become a god!
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I'd really like "the bad guy" to win this one. I realize that's not unprecedented, even in fairly recent storyline history, but the apotheosis of Xenagos and his cosmic revolution are loving badass and the gods deserve to be toppled.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:I'd really like "the bad guy" to win this one. I realize that's not unprecedented, even in fairly recent storyline history, but the apotheosis of Xenagos and his cosmic revolution are loving badass and the gods deserve to be toppled. I'm usually all for a good god-killing, but in this case it's probably for the better of Theros if they return to the status quo. Right now all the gods are planning on destroying all humans because they're so mad about not being special, so unless Elspeth can stop the god's rampage some other way she needs to drag Xenagos out of Nyx or every mortal being on Theros is done.
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I'd actually like to get a third version of Xenagos in Journey. Like Xenagos Dethroned, a creature who's been stripped of both godhood and his spark.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:I'd really like "the bad guy" to win this one. I realize that's not unprecedented, even in fairly recent storyline history, but the apotheosis of Xenagos and his cosmic revolution are loving badass and the gods deserve to be toppled. It's greek, even if he is meant to be the hero in a manner, it's going to be maximum greek tragedy. Froghammer posted:I'd actually like to get a third version of Xenagos in Journey. Like Xenagos Dethroned, a creature who's been stripped of both godhood and his spark. Something this would be pretty fitting within the world of greek drama.
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Nehru the Damaja posted:I'd really like "the bad guy" to win this one. I realize that's not unprecedented, even in fairly recent storyline history, but the apotheosis of Xenagos and his cosmic revolution are loving badass and the gods deserve to be toppled. The nice thing about the theme here is he can both win and lose at the same time.
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PhyrexianLibrarian posted:I can't speak to the lore of Alara, but I remember hearing another possibility that I hadn't considered; that they may reprint Ajani Vengeant. Seems unlikely since land destruction isn't something they print very often, but it's the only other alternative as I don't think they'd have two mono-white walkers in the same block. I don't think they reprint walkers outside of core sets because the cards are supposed to represent the character's evolutions
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