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Lum
Aug 13, 2003

UFOTofuTacoCat posted:

Indoor Cameras, we just need to be able to see if someone was doing a thing (there's nothing actively going, this is just in case.)
I would prefer battery powered wireless cameras so we don't have to worry with cables. Also I notice a lot of solutions have wireless cameras that talk back to the DVR directly, I think the building's walls are too dense for something like that as this is an old building with brick walls.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaI0xjeefpg&t=155s

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UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!

SEKCobra posted:

1. Legality. Make sure that recording is legal where you are.
2. Security. Wireless is jammed faster than a printer.
3. Technology. Decide wheter you want network cameras or classic. The range on wireless is highly dependant on this. Network cameras are easily integrated in existing environments, also PoE. Theres also shittons of software and cheap hardware. DVR Server software can be had for free.
Classic cameras on the other hand are somewhat expensive, wireless sometimes not even secured and generally on their way out imo. You have a wide selection of frequency ranges tho. Central dvrs are also the standard.

1. Not a problem.
2. Interesting, didn't realize that.
3. Network cameras is what seems like the best way to go.

Do you have any particular brand recommendations? Ideally I would like to get this setup from one Vendor who can support the product if there are issues. I'm not trying to roll my own solution, I've got other stuff to do.

SEKCobra posted:

Battery powered doesnt exist to my knowledge. What good is a security device that needs recharging every few weeks.
They are definitely out there for cheap residential stuff.

Inspector_666 posted:

The idea of using battery powered wireless cameras for "security" is so hilarious I hope you're joking.
I'm glad I could brighten your mood with my ignorance. There is a lot of crap out there, these types of devices exist.

I might add that this for a small office so the budget is not very big. If we have to run cable that may shut down the project.


Thanks! poo poo, it's at the top of the list too.

UFOTacoMan fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Apr 3, 2014

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo
Ask Me About Surveillance and Security Cameras! (And Other Security Topics)

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

You can call up any local alarm/security company in your area and they'll install (and over charge the poo poo out of you) basically the same thing you can buy from Amazon or whatnot.

You could also buy the system yourself and find a company that does low-voltage wiring for stuff like this and just have them install it.

You'll always need better cameras and you'll always need more cameras.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:

UFOTofuTacoCat posted:

1. Not a problem.
2. Interesting, didn't realize that.
3. Network cameras is what seems like the best way to go.

Do you have any particular brand recommendations? Ideally I would like to get this setup from one Vendor who can support the product if there are issues. I'm not trying to roll my own solution, I've got other stuff to do.

Axis is the go-to in upper tier, otherwise I've only exprienced china stuff, which actually is quite decent as long as it has h264.

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!
Are there any brands that you all have had good experiences with?

edit: Thanks, we posted at the same time.

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

Inspector_666 posted:

The idea of using battery powered wireless cameras for "security" is so hilarious I hope you're joking.

They exist and they are actually a lot more common than you might think.

(At least the ones I know about are only activated by motion and not constantly transmitting, but that doesn't really make it much better.)

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
Final straw broke. My boss just had a word with me about how i'm not supposed to ask any questions, if I don't know, I just pass it on. I can't ask any other first line guys what they've done at all, I can't ask the second line guys what they've done at all, etc. All we can do is look at worklogs and use the solutions list now. The solutions list that isn't populated with anything because nobody is assigned to approve solutions and the worklogs which aren't getting filled out because we're not meant to fill them out while on a call, yet when we put the phone down it instantly rings.

Also, my boss sent out an email to support telling us that we can't go on lunch if two other people have gone on lunch. Breaks are half an hour long. In two hours, this means that 8 people can go to lunch, after that, he doesn't want anyone to go on lunch. The kicker? We have way more than 8 people on the new "first line".

It is taking all my willpower not to punch my boss in the face right now.

VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV

Just emailed a recruiter about a temp job thats going. I'd have to attend an interview tomorrow and start monday if they like me, second line support, back where I belong.

gently caress this poo poo.

dogstile fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Apr 3, 2014

QuiteEasilyDone
Jul 2, 2010

Won't you play with me?

dogstile posted:

Final straw broke. My boss just had a word with me about how i'm not supposed to ask any questions, if I don't know, I just pass it on. I can't ask any other first line guys what they've done at all, I can't ask the second line guys what they've done at all, etc. All we can do is look at worklogs and use the solutions list now. The solutions list that isn't populated with anything because nobody is assigned to approve solutions and the worklogs which aren't getting filled out because we're not meant to fill them out while on a call, yet when we put the phone down it instantly rings.

Also, my boss sent out an email to support telling us that we can't go on lunch if two other people have gone on lunch. Breaks are half an hour long. In two hours, this means that 8 people can go to lunch, after that, he doesn't want anyone to go on lunch. The kicker? We have way more than 8 people on the new "first line".

It is taking all my willpower not to punch my boss in the face right now.



It seems like you really need to get out of there. Your boss gives no fucks, your company doesn't either from the sound of things. If you are driven towards sentiments of physical violence it is time to get out, full stop. Bail from the crashing plane that is your position and save what's left of your sanity.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Che Delilas posted:

Boss at my last job was like this. He was obsessed with my "scheduled hours." As a salaried developer, whether I come in at 8:00 or 8:01 doesn't make a loving bit of difference, but that was enough for him to officially write me up (yes, for one minute late being at my desk, despite the fact that I was in the building at 8:00).

There's really just two options:

1> Tell him to get hosed and that you're not signing the review and he can escalate it to whomever he pleases for further discussion. Call his bluff on the fact that his reviews are based on nothing meaningful.

2> Realize that your job security is based on the easiest of metrics, just make sure you're there for 8 hours a day and know that you have nothing whatsoever to worry about from this guy because he doesn't have anything to build a case on.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Che Delilas posted:

Boss at my last job was like this. He was obsessed with my "scheduled hours." As a salaried developer, whether I come in at 8:00 or 8:01 doesn't make a loving bit of difference, but that was enough for him to officially write me up (yes, for one minute late being at my desk, despite the fact that I was in the building at 8:00).
I feel bad for our hourly people who have to clock in through ADP or something.

On a Friday or day before the holiday, everyone is standing around joking at 4:30pm, salaried people start cutting out early, and they're forced to sit at their desk watching the clock until it hits 5:00

:smith:

Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


We gave our top HR person their own printer after they bitched and moaned about using the secure printing option on our main printer here, and what do they do? Print out employment offer letters complete with salary and benefits information and then leave them on the printer for anyone to find.

:argh:

TWBalls
Apr 16, 2003
My medication never lies

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:

Welp.

I sent out a "hey everyone by the way XP is end of life in less than a week you should probably buy a new computer at home or something" email to everyone yesterday, and I came in today to three people's personal XP laptops, with no note or label or anything, on my desk.

Email:
I have three unknown, unmarked laptops that suddenly appeared on my desk. As you know, we have a strict "No working on personal machines" policy, so no work will be performed on these. If at the end of the business day these have not been picked up by their owners, I will assume they are abandoned and will be tossing them into the E-recycle/E-waste bin.

Thank You,
Eat The Eggs Ricola

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

AlternateAccount posted:

There's really just two options:

1> Tell him to get hosed and that you're not signing the review and he can escalate it to whomever he pleases for further discussion. Call his bluff on the fact that his reviews are based on nothing meaningful.

2> Realize that your job security is based on the easiest of metrics, just make sure you're there for 8 hours a day and know that you have nothing whatsoever to worry about from this guy because he doesn't have anything to build a case on.

I was pretty frank with him about what I thought, actually. I pointed out that there had not been an emergency at 8:00 in the year since I started there, that I had a cell phone and that he knew the number if he had any emergency questions for me at ANY time (complete bullshit anyway since I didn't work on anything important enough to require immediate attention no matter how bad the problem was), and that I rarely took my full 30 minutes of lunch. I pointed out that he had heard from people he trusted that I did more- and better-than-average work, which was more than offsetting a 7.95 hour day sometimes.

He literally said, "none of that matters." So I responded with, "Okay, so what you're saying is that my start and end time is the only thing that counts to you. The results of my work, the quality, the polish, none of that is important. That's what you're telling me." He didn't precisely say "yes" but he made a feeble attempt to twist his words around that might as well have been confirmation.

I did stop giving a poo poo after that, as per your second suggestion. Problem is that I like what I do, and having it mean nothing and affect nothing and go completely unappreciated grinds me down on a mental level. So I got out of that place a short time later.

The bottom line was that this guy was an egomaniac. Everything he did was to further his own self-image, and the fact that he wanted me to be in a chair at 8, and I was in it at 8:01, was a direct attack on him and his very identity.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Sirotan posted:

We gave our top HR person their own printer after they bitched and moaned about using the secure printing option on our main printer here, and what do they do? Print out employment offer letters complete with salary and benefits information and then leave them on the printer for anyone to find.

:argh:

Interviewed with an HR lady and as an example of something I would change at my current job was the whole everyone had a printer thing, and I said 'You can even enter your PIN at the copier to get your TOP SECRET poo poo' and she said "That's exactly what I do when I print something private! I can't believe everyone has their own printer where you work!"

Even dumber, helpdesk are the only people allowed to change toners. We keep them in a locked storage room.

icehewk
Jul 7, 2003

Congratulations on not getting fit in 2011!
That sounds like a labor lawsuit if I ever heard one. Do they at least have food and water?

Westie
May 30, 2013



Baboon Simulator

icehewk posted:

That sounds like a labor lawsuit if I ever heard one. Do they at least have food and water?

Probably not.

They probably just live off the sound of ringing phones and mains electricity.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Che Delilas posted:

The bottom line was that this guy was an egomaniac. Everything he did was to further his own self-image, and the fact that he wanted me to be in a chair at 8, and I was in it at 8:01, was a direct attack on him and his very identity.

Well, the other side of that is coming in late is a pretty hard thing to defend and get self-righteous about. But it sounds like you were more HOLY poo poo DOES IT REALLY MATTER? And when he says YES, VERY MUCH, you know exactly how things are and what you need to do.

sfwarlock
Aug 11, 2007

Bob Morales posted:

Even dumber, helpdesk are the only people allowed to change toners. We keep them in a locked storage room.

To be fair, that poo poo's expensive and printers start whining about low toner long before they're actually out. The Unwashed Masses tend to put new toner in way too early.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


poo poo pissing me off for the last month:

We sent a laptop off to warranty repair to ASUS on behalf of a client. It was sent back to us missing RAM, and every time we call them we get the runaround. It's gotten bad enough that our owner has been on the phone with them for the last two hours trying to get it escalate to someone that can make a decision.

The Fool fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Apr 3, 2014

the littlest prince
Sep 23, 2006


AlternateAccount posted:

Well, the other side of that is coming in late is a pretty hard thing to defend and get self-righteous about.

I don't think it is! He's a dev, it barely matters at all when he's in, unless his non-presence is keeping others from progressing. E.g. where I work (a software company), we have "core hours" during which everyone is officially expected to be at work (9am-3pm I think), partially for that purpose, and partially so customers can find us. Thing is though, it's so unimportant in practice that we have people who ignore it on a daily basis and nobody cares. As long as people get their work done in a reasonable timeframe, it basically doesn't matter when you are or aren't there.

This is at a big company whose name you would recognize.

peter banana
Sep 2, 2008

Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
It's not really about "defending being late." It's about "don't be a dick unnecessarily as a manager, it will backfire." If Che Delias is usually <10 minutes late, works longer and has a high quality of work, any sensible manager would let a few minutes here and there slide, lest he ruin Che's motivation/cause Che to start looking for a new position.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

sfwarlock posted:

To be fair, that poo poo's expensive and printers start whining about low toner long before they're actually out. The Unwashed Masses tend to put new toner in way too early.

We have like 100+ printers and since they are refurb toners, about 1 in 10 or a dud so helpdesk wastes so much loving time on this it's insane.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

peter banana posted:

It's not really about "defending being late." It's about "don't be a dick unnecessarily as a manager, it will backfire." If Che Delias is usually <10 minutes late, works longer and has a high quality of work, any sensible manager would let a few minutes here and there slide, lest he ruin Che's motivation/cause Che to start looking for a new position.

Yeah, the point is that "late" as a concept is kind of silly to apply to someone like me. I mean, on a previous project I had come in on a couple weekends to get a project out the door under a deadline. I wasn't getting paid extra for it, my job was to develop and deliver a product on time, and I managed my time as I saw fit, including putting in extra hours to get it done. Did that factor into his decision to reprimand me when I was one minute late sometime down the line? Nope (he claimed to not remember that I had done that :fuckoff:).

And really, my main complaint is that the clock trumped everything else. It's not, "holy poo poo does it even matter" it's, "what about all the positive stuff like the fact that I take a shorter lunch most days or the fact that I do above-average work" to which the response is, "that doesn't matter." That is a direct quote. "That doesn't matter."

Che Delilas fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Apr 3, 2014

H1KE
May 7, 2007

Somehow, I don't think they'd approve the franchise...


The Fool posted:

poo poo pissing me off for the last month:

We sent a laptop off to warranty repair to ASUS on behalf of a client. It was sent back to us missing RAM, and every time we call them we get the runaround. It's gotten bad enough that our owner has been on the phone with them for the last two hours trying to get it escalate to someone that can make a decision.

Is it just me or have ASUS poo poo the bed recently? Two Ultrabooks, both with the same battery problems, an Ultrabook that got returned multiple times for a bad board, then came back with a missing USB daughter board, then missing RAM, a laptop returned with LCD to board plug not put back in correctly, and now another came in to send off because the board has gone bad. All of those were 6-8 months old.

What the gently caress is going on over there lately? :psyduck:

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Crowley posted:

Well yeah, but don't adults lay out their clothes the night before anyway? or is it just us who're odd. :ohdear:

Anyways, our dresscode depends on the job.
  • Interview royalty - Business attire, and make sure your tie is boring (don't wear bright colors!)
  • Interview politicians - Business attire, skip the tie if they're from a left-leaning party
  • Interview busines/sports/famous people - Business pants and a shirt, Skip the tie
  • Interview anyone else - the older they are the more business-like you dress
  • Work behind the camera, shoot with royalty - nice jeans or dress pants, shirt recommended but at least a monochromatic T-shirt.
  • Work behind the camera, anything else - Please wear pants

Getting back to clothes-chat, I generally grab the shirt and pants at the top of the drawer after stumbling out of bed. Lately, I've been pulling the shirts out of the "dress shirt" drawer instead of the "t-shirt" drawer, so I guess that counts as not just doing the same thing.

Partycat
Oct 25, 2004

UFOTofuTacoCat posted:

Are there any brands that you all have had good experiences with?

edit: Thanks, we posted at the same time.

mobotix

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

Lum posted:

So long as you manage to avoid wearing your shirt backwards and going out without pants, you're golden.

This is harder than it looks, you know. :colbert:

Mattress Man
Apr 3, 2009

:dukedog:
Jesus Christ I just want to slap the poo poo out of our admin department. They called me 4 times in 4 minutes without leaving a voicemail (I was fixing a engineer's laptop who is leaving on a trip tomorrow) because they had a SUPER IMPORTANT SEMINAR that they needed help setting up for RIGHT NOW WHY AREN'T YOU HELPING US YOU HAVE A POOR ATTITUDE!

Oh yeah and they scheduled over every meeting in there and told engineers in front of clients to just deal with it. I'd go to the CEO but considering that they didn't get in trouble for being drunk at work before 1pm (and actively drinking at their desks to boot) I'll probably just get told I need to improve my attitude again.

Westie
May 30, 2013



Baboon Simulator

Mattress Man posted:

that they didn't get in trouble for being drunk at work before 1pm

Are you trying to hide the fact you work with doctors?

SyNack Sassimov
May 4, 2006

Let the robot win.
            --Captain James T. Vader



Also if you're going the non-Axis route, check out Hikvision.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
Hah, came in this morning to an email telling me I was unprofessional in writing up my ticket. My ticket was literally *customer name* *Problem* "He'd like to speak to *colleague* about it.

I shot off an email to my bosses boss (The director, he deals with all complaints) asking if any customer had complained about me. I then asked the room manager if he didn't understand the ticket (He did, I asked him to take the call, he declined, I took a message, got told to write the message in a ticket, which I did, word for word).

E: To clarify at this point, the guy complaining that I was unprofessional was the room manager.

When I had both responses, I copied the directors email into the email which said there was no complaints about me, said "I don't see how this is affecting production" and left it at that. They called an immediate meeting about it to discuss my attitude, to the point where my manager had to catch himself from shouting at me. poo poo, they really don't like being questioned here.

The meeting went on for a little bit, they said it wasn't about the customers, then they went on about "what if a customer sees that, it looks like you're not putting in the effort", they then told me I should come to them first. I ended up asking if this meeting was about my performance or about me getting the director involved. They of course said it wasn't about the director, but then made sure to tell me three or four times that I shouldn't have gotten him involved.

Any UK goons in Hampshire (nearish Guildford) that need someone for helpdesk work/a sysadmin apprentice? Desperately need to get out.

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


I once got mildly told off for turning up late but after briefly making an effort I let things slide and now turn up at 930 and nobody really cares as long as I'm getting things done.

Also if anyone asks I just say I'm reducing peak congestion on London transport and/or ensuring our US office has better support by stating later.

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!

Potato Alley posted:

Also if you're going the non-Axis route, check out Hikvision.

Thanks!
:hfive:

nitrogen
May 21, 2004

Oh, what's a 217°C difference between friends?
I think it's hilarious that I can get on DealExtreme's mailing list by forgettign to unclick a button after buying something, but when you unsbuscribe, THATS when they want to make you run through a capcha and a link in an email verifying your intentions...


Speaking of insane HR policies, we had a fun wrigamarole about the dress code here recently. HR sent out a "reminder" about the dress code, and it was much stricter than anything I had ever seen. Business casual at a minimum. No jeans, no sneakers, no polo shirts. Exceptions with supervisor approval only.

MY boss immediately said, "Don't worry about this unless VP's are coming to visit. My dresscode is "wear clothes." Our VP usually dresses like the rest of us, jeans, sneakers, polos or Hawaiian shirts.

Unfortunately, another team had their boss out when this email hit. A lady over in that team has hosed up feet and wears sneakers, so she went to HR about it. Hr demanded a doctors perscription detailing the condition and why she must be allowed to wear sneakers. She told HR to eat poo poo, (as her medical conditions are none of HR's buisness imho) and quit on the spot.

Seriously, these kinds of things are making it ovbious that it's time to :toot:. I mean the dresscode thing is okay, I could have handled that, but demanding personal medical information for a dress code exception? That seems a bit extreme to me. Dr note should have been fine. Hell, leaving the dresscode the way it's been should have been fine, it's not like we are ever customer facing or anything.

Feral Bueller
Apr 23, 2004

Fun is important.
Nap Ghost

Che Delilas posted:

And really, my main complaint is that the clock trumped everything else. It's not, "holy poo poo does it even matter" it's, "what about all the positive stuff like the fact that I take a shorter lunch most days or the fact that I do above-average work" to which the response is, "that doesn't matter." That is a direct quote. "That doesn't matter."

There's been a lot of back-and-forth on this. From someone who has had to train managers not to suck:

Send an email to your manager, cc: HR.

Request a meeting with him and HR with the following agenda:

1. Clarification as to company policy as to what constitutes "late".
2. Clarification as to employee status (non-exempt, exempt).
3. Request confirmation that per your earlier conversation with your boss, time at desk is the only metric that you will be evaluated on going forward.
4. Create a 90 day action plan evaluating your performance against this metric. Be sure to get lead times to request and take PTO per company policy written into this action plan.

Basically what you're doing is writing yourself up, with HR as a witness. Assuming you hit the performance metric for the 90 day plan, he will have a very difficult time bringing this issue up again, unless he wants to get called out for harrassment.

This is called "managing upward". He's a terrible manager -- whether or not that's because he was never taught how to manage or because he's an awful human being is indeterminate based on the information provided in this thread, but this gets a light shown on everything.

This is also the kind of stuff that a good HR department loves to work on -- you'll know pretty quickly if they're any good or not.

Also, please keep updating the thread! :slick:

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?
Pissing me off: any piece of software updated in the last 2 years that only works on one version of one browser.
  • In-house application developed over the last 5 years: only works on IE8. Breaks horribly with anything else.
  • Cloud application updated this year that only works on IE9.
:argh:

Even more fun: the second application is really just a Java application launched through the browser. It doesn't really require the browser to do anything but launch using a JNLP file.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

peter banana posted:

It's not really about "defending being late." It's about "don't be a dick unnecessarily as a manager, it will backfire." If Che Delias is usually <10 minutes late, works longer and has a high quality of work, any sensible manager would let a few minutes here and there slide, lest he ruin Che's motivation/cause Che to start looking for a new position.

I don't disagree with this on an idealist level. You put in your time, you get your work done, that's all that needs to be said. I've worked under that environment and it's great. You treat people like grown ups and often you get grown up behaviour.
That said, having one person who slides in late repeatedly without repercussion may set a bad example for other employees working with them for whom timeliness is far more important. While that's still thin logical ice for being a hardass about it, it can cause morale and discipline issues with other people.

CatsOnTheInternet
Apr 24, 2013

BEEEEAAOOOORRRRRRRW BEEEBEAAAAAOOOORRWW

Ynglaur posted:

Pissing me off: any piece of software updated in the last 2 years that only works on one version of one browser.
  • In-house application developed over the last 5 years: only works on IE8. Breaks horribly with anything else.
  • Cloud application updated this year that only works on IE9.
:argh:

Even more fun: the second application is really just a Java application launched through the browser. It doesn't really require the browser to do anything but launch using a JNLP file.

Isn't it funny, how the whole premise of browser-based apps is to reduce client-side dependencies.

I was trying to get an ooooold DiBos video interface to work in IE8 yesterday; it was designed for IE6. During this time I found myself thinking: It's easier to finagle Win2k-era software to work on 2008R2, than it is to run IE6-era browser apps on any new browser.

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tomapot
Apr 7, 2005
Suppose you're thinkin' about a plate o' shrimp. Suddenly someone'll say, like, plate, or shrimp, or plate o' shrimp out of the blue, no explanation. No point in lookin' for one, either. It's all part of a cosmic unconciousness.
Oven Wrangler
How hard is it to put you mic on mute when you are on a Lync conference call / demo. Dude presenting has more patience than me.

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