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Best history snipe ever 
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Apr 4, 2014 21:00
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Renaissance Robot posted:Best history snipe ever
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Apr 4, 2014 21:13
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Private Eye posted:Speaking of northern period museums, Beamish is excellent. Alternatively: Sunderland. Edit: Zephro posted:I wanted to post something inconsequential from 9AD but couldn't (unsurprisingly) find anything Kegluneq fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Apr 4, 2014 |
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Apr 4, 2014 21:16
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So Labour and the Conservatives voted against net neutrality in the European Parliament yesterday. Way to loving go, guys.  vvv: Welcome to European Parliament vote analysis. Basically, the vote was on a raft of amendments that would explicitly entrench the right to net neutrality in the EU's electronic data policy. It also included a provision saying that websites should only be blocked pursuant to a court order, which got the IWF up in arms because of the nonces. TinTower fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Apr 4, 2014 |
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Apr 4, 2014 21:23
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There is not a single part of that draft from which I can derive any kind of meaning 
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Apr 4, 2014 21:31
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TinTower posted:So Labour and the Conservatives voted against net neutrality in the European Parliament yesterday. In news that's surprising to nobody, Farage couldn't be bothered to vote. I actually sent my MP an email about this issue at some point. His reply was 'we take net neutrality seriously so blah blah blah'. The complete lack of interest/knowledge in IT issues that most MPs have means that this is an issue that will be decided by industry lobbyists.
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Apr 4, 2014 22:36
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kingturnip posted:The complete lack of interest/knowledge in [INSERT ISSUE HERE] issues that most MPs have means that this is an issue that will be decided by industry lobbyists. Slight correction
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Apr 4, 2014 23:07
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kingturnip posted:In news that's surprising to nobody, Farage couldn't be bothered to vote. I believe that's actually UKIP's stated reason for MEPs - so that they can not vote on any issue unless 'kick britain out of the EU' ever comes up. It's supposed to be an 'objection to the EU by not participating' kind of deal. He's still horrible, but in this case, not just being a lazy git.
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Apr 4, 2014 23:10
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SybilVimes posted:I believe that's actually UKIP's stated reason for MEPs - so that they can not vote on any issue unless 'kick britain out of the EU' ever comes up. It's supposed to be an 'objection to the EU by not participating' kind of deal. Convenient that it doesn't stop their MEPs claiming expenses, isn't it?
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Apr 4, 2014 23:27
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Froodulous posted:Convenient that it doesn't stop their MEPs claiming expenses, isn't it? Got to take those loving EU bastards for everything they're worth. After all, it's ultimately our tax money! Somehow. e: It really disappoints me how the worst of our political bases have some sort of foothold as MEPs. The BNP and UKIP all have seats. It's loving embarrassing that we're literally sending fascists back into Europe not several decades after we had a major loving war to get rid of the bastards.
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Apr 4, 2014 23:29
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Ddraig posted:e: It really disappoints me how the worst of our political bases have some sort of foothold as MEPs. The BNP and UKIP all have seats. It's loving embarrassing that we're literally sending fascists back into Europe not several decades after we had a major loving war to get rid of the bastards.
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Apr 4, 2014 23:53
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SybilVimes posted:I believe that's actually UKIP's stated reason for MEPs - so that they can not vote on any issue unless 'kick britain out of the EU' ever comes up. It's supposed to be an 'objection to the EU by not participating' kind of deal. He is actually a lazy git, though; they do vote, but have by and far the worst voting records in Europe. All while riding the sweet gravy train of expenses. Interestingly, both Andrew Brons and Nick Griffin voted for net neutrality. That's also massively depressing.
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Apr 5, 2014 00:33
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Ukip were also recently the only UK MEPs to vote against ensuring that pharma companies publish all trial data, instead of just the ones that say their new wonder drug's the best thing since sliced bread.
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Apr 5, 2014 08:17
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Today in tax: John Redwood says that we should abolish the additional rate income tax band (which the coalition reduced from 50% on income above £150k to 45%). He justifies this by pointing to the extra £9b raised following the cut from 50% to 45%, conveniently neglecting the fact that almost everyone subject to that tax deferred the portion of their income above £150k until after the change had taken place. Meanwhile, the IFS says that if you're going to raise the inheritance tax threshold to £1m, you may as well abolish it all together because raising the threshold would reduce the revenue generated from the current £2.6b to a mere £800m: http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/apr/04/conservatives-inheritance-tax-threshold-david-cameron
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Apr 5, 2014 08:52
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Meanwhile, on The Independent http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...le-9236587.html quote:Exclusive (LOL): Housing bubble brewing – prices are now unaffordable for middle earners, says Business Secretary Vince Cable If I recall correctly, this "financial help to the building trade" was basically "The government will guarantee your loans so if it all goes tits up builders walk away scot free and the treasury foots the bill for your stupidity".
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Apr 5, 2014 09:30
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Post war solution to housing crisis: Build houses Post crash solution to housing crisis: Financial help available to small businesses in the building trade to increase competition
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Apr 5, 2014 09:49
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I got a letter through today inviting me to a coffee evening with my local MP (Yvette Cooper) to discuss immigration. This does interest me but I am worried that I will be stuck in a room full of BNP and UKIP morons... Even so it should be interesting at least. I just hope I wont be the youngest in the room by a 20 year margin or something like that.
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Apr 5, 2014 11:18
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FiftySeven posted:I got a letter through today inviting me to a coffee evening with my local MP (Yvette Cooper) to discuss immigration. This does interest me but I am worried that I will be stuck in a room full of BNP and UKIP morons... Even so it should be interesting at least. I just hope I wont be the youngest in the room by a 20 year margin or something like that.  Just take in some printed off facts to counter any spurious bullshit you might hear. Yvette Cooper seems okay so I'd be interested to hear how she comes across in the flesh.
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Apr 5, 2014 11:22
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I doubt my MP will want to invite me to a meeting. I suspect someone on his staff will have scrawled PINKO COMMIE SCUM next to my name somewhere based on the things I've bothered contacting him about.
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Apr 5, 2014 11:38
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Metrication posted:Post war solution to housing crisis: Build houses Don't worry, the Daily Mail knows the real reason: 
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Apr 5, 2014 11:42
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Before reading the subheading I assumed that was going to be about immigrants somehow (the real reason for the housing shortage, according to my dad  )
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Apr 5, 2014 12:19
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Kegluneq posted:Old people are not scary. You will be the youngest person there however, by quite a margin if the local Labour party in my area is anything to go by. 35 was the youngest I saw when I got roped into helping with some local election campaigning.
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Apr 5, 2014 12:25
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Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:Saucechat/Crispchat: Will Self enters the debate on crisps.
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Apr 5, 2014 12:42
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nothing to seehere posted:You will be the youngest person there however, by quite a margin if the local Labour party in my area is anything to go by. 35 was the youngest I saw when I got roped into helping with some local election campaigning. I think that's one of the best reasons to go though, to show that this stuff does matter to people outside their usual audience. People in my demographic are so disinterested in politics and that really irks me when they complain about the government screwing things up. Why would they waste their time campaigning to us if no one is going to vote anyway. I am currently 26 and my friends are generally with in 2-3 years of my age, as far as I recall, 2 of them vote, and the rest consider it a waste of time. To be fair to them, I can understand the apathy even though I don't feel it myself. Immigration is an interesting subject in of itself though, and way too many people try to pretend that deep routed problems are something brought on by recent migrants. There is an argument to be made about limitations on immigration but too many people go way too far with it. As far as I am concerned, there are other issues which are far more damaging, like the surge in zero hour contracts and general exploitation of the working classes.
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Apr 5, 2014 14:14
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There's no problem that is resolved by limiting immigration, the problem is only relocated outside of a national boundary at best. As you say immigration is not specifically the cause of anything, so all limiting it will do is limit the pressure being brought to bear on a problem that isn't actually being addressed properly anyway.
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Apr 5, 2014 14:24
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Last night someone tried to argue that we need the free market so people can have options to choose from when decorating the interior of their house as an example of freedom of expression that a socialist economy simply couldn't provide for. You heard it here, folks, feng shui proves we need the free market. Time to throw in the towel. This guy was unbelievable- he was with a girl from Northumbria or something who said she voted Tory because her dad's a gamekeeper and they're the only ones who care about the countryside (but never told me how it is they care about the countryside), got mad at me for suggesting that maybe people living in the countryside tend not to be quite as working class as the huddled masses in the cities, he said he was a "leftist" but then went on to declare he didn't believe in "left" or "right" but in "evidence-informed policy" and just acted the superior gently caress all night long. He seemed genuinely surprised when someone without an RP accent called him out on misusing definitions of the scientific method. Yes, Mr PHD in condescension, I know about Kuhn and Popper and I know you're full of poo poo. Give it up. Sorry, just wanted to rant a bit after that. loving hell.
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Apr 5, 2014 14:47
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Coohoolin posted:Last night someone tried to argue that we need the free market so people can have options to choose from when decorating the interior of their house as an example of freedom of expression that a socialist economy simply couldn't provide for. Did he end the night picking his teeth up from the pavement? If not, you exhibited far more self-control than I would have. I bet the game-keeper's daughter has two things in mind when she votes, hunting with dogs and the fact that her dad directly serves the toffs' need to kill something small and feathered whilst rah-rahing about their Tuscan villa and Jacinta's gymkhana. Funny that country-folk don't complain about the subsidies that they get, someone should point out that they're so good at the free market that they need a perpetual bailout. And the cost of the bailout is that they don't get to tear animals apart with dogs anymore.
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Apr 5, 2014 14:59
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I was reading a great article about the development of the game laws (basically how they were implemented to ban the working classes from being able to live off the land without becoming wage labourers) where it was also pointed out that the upper classes were obsessed with maximising yields from all of their properties (and despising the working class for having any free time) unless they hunted, in which case they'd happily trample all over fields of crops and smash down hedges while hunting.
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Apr 5, 2014 15:13
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There's an absolutely vile article in The Guardian today, they seem to be equivocating bad tenants and bad landlords. Is the average Guardian reader now supposed to be so old / wealthy that they've not rented since 1996 at the latest, or are we supposed to take it that "everyone knows" that current law isn't hilariously biased against renters?
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Apr 5, 2014 15:45
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What's the best way to catch and kill a pheasant that doesn't involve firearms? The things are a major pest in my new country abode, pulling up my garlic and onions.
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Apr 5, 2014 15:47
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Praseodymi posted:Don't worry, the Daily Mail knows the real reason: drat Orientals coming over and taking our 
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Apr 5, 2014 15:49
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General China posted:What's the best way to catch and kill a pheasant that doesn't involve firearms? The things are a major pest in my new country abode, pulling up my garlic and onions. I dunno, ask your gamekeeper your grace.
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Apr 5, 2014 15:58
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ookiimarukochan posted:There's an absolutely vile article in The Guardian today, they seem to be equivocating bad tenants and bad landlords. Is the average Guardian reader now supposed to be so old / wealthy that they've not rented since 1996 at the latest, or are we supposed to take it that "everyone knows" that current law isn't hilariously biased against renters? The money section is more likely to be read by landlords than tenants so they're probably tailoring the article to the audience. Really classy how the author states the bad tenant is a foreigner (and probably non-white) and implies it with the broken English comment about the bad landlord.
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Apr 5, 2014 16:01
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namesake posted:I dunno, ask your gamekeeper your grace. My gamekeeper who is also my cat is quite useless at the pheasant situation. He is an unholy terror when it comes to killing rabbits though.
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Apr 5, 2014 16:02
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General China posted:What's the best way to catch and kill a pheasant that doesn't involve firearms? The things are a major pest in my new country abode, pulling up my garlic and onions. Did you not read Danny Champion of the World in primary school? The answer is to dope them up.
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Apr 5, 2014 16:18
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General China posted:What's the best way to catch and kill a pheasant that doesn't involve firearms? The things are a major pest in my new country abode, pulling up my garlic and onions. Get tooled up son https://basc.org.uk/cop/air-rifles-code-of-practice/ BASC posted:Respect for the quarry
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Apr 5, 2014 16:19
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Looks like an air rifle it is after some research. It will probably piss off the game keeper who has been raising them, but its entirely legal if they are in your garden. And the gamekeeper is unlikely to find out. Time to find out about pheasant plucking.
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Apr 5, 2014 17:14
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General China posted:What's the best way to catch and kill a pheasant that doesn't involve firearms? The things are a major pest in my new country abode, pulling up my garlic and onions. Carpet bombing.
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General China posted:Looks like an air rifle it is after some research. It will probably piss off the game keeper who has been raising them, but its entirely legal if they are in your garden. And the gamekeeper is unlikely to find out. If you want to eat them afterwards (pheasant, not the gamekeeper) I'd recommend a crossbow instead, digging pellets out of meat isn't fun, whether cooked or before cooking. e: otoh, if you want to eat the gamekeeper, then a crossbow is still a good option
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