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RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

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Just Horizontal posted:

I know, but they usually hit before I can bug out. I just need more practice I think. The majority of my gametime has been on Easy, so I'm used to being in godmode by sector 5 due to the insane scrap levels.

Like they don't just blow your engine room up in the first shot anyway. Sector one, sun level, enemy drone fires hacking drone, turns off engines, its ion pulse hits twice in a row, so no shields, missile launcher hits my doors. The solar flare blows up my guns, cockpit, and sets two other rooms on fire. This is kinder than I usually get since the drone was theoretically beatable by my ship, but the dice rolled against me.

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Malcolm XML
Aug 8, 2009

I always knew it would end like this.
Hardmode is really loving hard.

Gonna stay on easy since well, i like not getting owned by the 2nd sector every drat time

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



Managed to get the event for the Zoltan and finished it, yet at the end I only got the super Zoltan crewmember but no ship (died in the last sector). Do you need to kill the flagship to unlock ships now?

massive spider
Dec 6, 2006

Tracula posted:

So how the hell do you counter the Flagship stage 1 hacking you pretty much instantly? First time it was my weapons which was a death sentence. Second time was my shields which was also a death sentence.

Stealth when it hacks you to give you time to recover from the hack was my strategy.

Mango Polo
Aug 4, 2007

canepazzo posted:

Managed to get the event for the Zoltan and finished it, yet at the end I only got the super Zoltan crewmember but no ship (died in the last sector). Do you need to kill the flagship to unlock ships now?

To unlock the next basic ship in line, yes.
To get a ship from a quest event, no.

Inadequately
Oct 9, 2012
What's the general strategy for playing Zoltan A? On my first run I had a decent setup with a pre-igniter, an automated reloader, some missiles, the halberd beam and a hacking device. Got up to sector 8, then a ship with a single defense drone proved completely impossible to scratch and tore through my ship with ease. My next run I made it to the flagship with a Flak 1, halberd beam, ion charge cannon and fire bomb, along with mind control and a hacking device. Tried every combination of those weapons I could think of, jumped away and repaired a couple of times, none of them could even touch Stage 1 of the flagship.

Rookersh
Aug 19, 2010
What are most peoples designated strats? I keep ending up mixing and matching ideas and it costs me scrap.

Weaponwise, I end up just watching for more burst lasers/flak now, but I've never had good results with anything else. It always seems like if I want to go weapons I have to burn my scrap doing it, because using multiple weapons costs so drat much.

I've tried going Drone once, but that was even more expensive then just buying weapons, and I didn't find it that much better. Most of the drones were terrible, and they cost drone parts.

My original run plan was to upgrade engines/shields until 50%/r2-3, then start focusing on offense, but that leaves me with the burst laser 2 in Sector 5 against 2 shield guys. I've started trying to buy new guns to try them out along the way now, but that eats up ALL of my scrap making sure I can use the new gun/burst laser 2, which has me weak on defense by Sector 5. Trying to get a good rhythm going, and want to see what most goons do.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

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massive spider posted:

Stealth when it hacks you to give you time to recover from the hack was my strategy.

If it hits engines, shields, or weapons, accept that you've lost and run away. It'll try to hack something else next time.

After five hours I finally have another decent run going. Zoltan B, have 2 shields, halberd beam, two ions, ion stunner, and a combat drone at sector 5. Hopefully it can hold up to the flagship, but I know it can't.

e: drat, got an ion intruder. To hell with the combat drone this little guy's a beast.

RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Apr 5, 2014

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I just beat the flagship on easy using the Kestral and it didn't unlock the third ship for some reason. Thats annoying. Turns out on easy at least you can outdamage the flagship using Flak 1 and 2, Burst laser 2 and an ion bomb if you've got maxed cloak, a pre-igniter and the thing that lets you bomb through zoltan shields.

Edit: its the B ship only that unlocks the C ship?

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE

Jose posted:

I just beat the flagship on easy using the Kestral and it didn't unlock the third ship for some reason. Thats annoying. Turns out on easy at least you can outdamage the flagship using Flak 1 and 2, Burst laser 2 and an ion bomb if you've got maxed cloak, a pre-igniter and the thing that lets you bomb through zoltan shields.

Edit: its the B ship only that unlocks the C ship?

You just have to reach sector 8 in the B to unlock the C.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

canepazzo posted:

Managed to get the event for the Zoltan and finished it, yet at the end I only got the super Zoltan crewmember but no ship (died in the last sector). Do you need to kill the flagship to unlock ships now?

It looks like the Zoltan unlock quest has been replaced. I don't know what it is now, but it probably involves something harder than paying attention to the mission popups.

Mike the TV
Jan 14, 2008

Ninety-nine ninety-nine ninety-nine

Pillbug

Tenebrais posted:

It looks like the Zoltan unlock quest has been replaced. I don't know what it is now, but it probably involves something harder than paying attention to the mission popups.

I started over to unlock all ships again (I never got the Crystal ships anyway) and the Zoltan questline ended the same as always with the ship unlocked, a bunch of scrap and a zoltan shield for my current run.

Also, to the guy a while back that says the Lanius ship is unlocked as a freebie- you're wrong. I still don't have it.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

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Blah, I doomed myself. I still have two shields, but ran out of fuel so I had to spend all the shield-money on space gas, then foolishly bought a upgrade to prevent enemy drones from targeting my stuff. This was actually fun though, because I didn't lose because the rng rolled against me a dozen times in a row; I lost because I hosed up. It should be like this more.

e: You know it's kind of lovely that the flagship can keep firing its guns until the room is completely in the red. My guys choked to death because he hacked my 02, but still.

RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Apr 5, 2014

Lakitu7
Jul 10, 2001

Watch for spinys
The Disable Rebel Pursuit mod has been updated, if anyone was waiting. Links here: http://ftlwiki.com/wiki/Mods

I never even used it for the original version but I'm really thinking about it now. With the AE content it's crossed into being too difficult to be fun anymore (even on Easy), so it's either this or I wait for a balance patch to hopefully tone down a few things.

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Mike the TV posted:

I started over to unlock all ships again (I never got the Crystal ships anyway) and the Zoltan questline ended the same as always with the ship unlocked, a bunch of scrap and a zoltan shield for my current run.

Also, to the guy a while back that says the Lanius ship is unlocked as a freebie- you're wrong. I still don't have it.

Huh. I guess it gives you a different reward if you already have the ship? I went through the Zoltan quest and got an all-gold Zoltan, no ship upgrade.

I assume the Lanius ship auto-unlocks if you qualify for it by having won with whichever ship is the fourth one (Stealth?).

Lakitu7
Jul 10, 2001

Watch for spinys
I think I remember reading that it's just having (any) four ships unlocked?

Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug

So how do you actually beat stage 3 of the boss? I was owning everything up to there but stage 3 was just too much for me on hard. I think it is much harder than stage 2 now.

Mango Polo
Aug 4, 2007

Lakitu7 posted:

I think I remember reading that it's just having (any) four ships unlocked?

Correct. You can find the description right there in the ship select screen, just so everyone knows :shobon:

canepazzo
May 29, 2006



Holy poo poo the flak II is brutal - got one in the first sector and it's magnificent.

Also hacking owns, mind control owns, FTL 2.0 owns.

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...
I think I had a bug or glitch earlier. I always play it close to the enemy fleet so I can explore as many worlds as possible but I always keep something closeby to separate myself...and today when the fleet caught up it cut off one of the FTL jumps I had available. I had to backtrack the ENTIRE SYSTEM to get to the exit because the one jump straight to the exit didn't work. I had to quit on that one I was getting so frustrated. I had two burst laser II's and the enemies had only two shields so I tore through them no problem but the enemy fleets other ships now provide artillery support to it which shredded my hull.

Not Al-Qaeda
Mar 20, 2012
Jesus gently caress, I feel like I'm playing pretty not terribly and still I can't even beat the last boss on easy. I don't even want to go back to trying to beat this game on normal.

super fart shooter
Feb 11, 2003

-quacka fat-

canepazzo posted:

Holy poo poo the flak II is brutal - got one in the first sector and it's magnificent.

Also hacking owns, mind control owns, FTL 2.0 owns.

Clone bays own too, if nothing else because they've allowed me to fearlessly take on giant space spiders two or three times already

Tenebrais
Sep 2, 2011

Tenebrais posted:

Huh. I guess it gives you a different reward if you already have the ship? I went through the Zoltan quest and got an all-gold Zoltan, no ship upgrade.

Having trawled through the game's data files, this is the case - you'll get an augment if you haven't done the quest before and a crew member otherwise.

pogothemonkey0
Oct 13, 2005

:shepface:God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title:shepface:
Does anyone have screenshots for the type C layouts? I'm trying to figure out how worth it they are to unlock. I have a few, but some of them are giving me trouble. I really do not enjoy slug B or engi B. Slug B is kind of a lovely gimmick but becomes playable once you get a few crew members and medbay. Engi B seems like it could be okay but I get frustrated with only having one crew member.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

pogothemonkey0 posted:

Does anyone have screenshots for the type C layouts? I'm trying to figure out how worth it they are to unlock. I have a few, but some of them are giving me trouble. I really do not enjoy slug B or engi B. Slug B is kind of a lovely gimmick but becomes playable once you get a few crew members and medbay. Engi B seems like it could be okay but I get frustrated with only having one crew member.

Zoltan C has a charge ion, a cloning bay, four zoltans and a beam drone.

Tracula
Mar 26, 2010

PLEASE LEAVE
Wait, why can a defense drone shoot down ion blasts :psyduck: I thought they were made of pure energy or someshit.

Minarchist
Mar 5, 2009

by WE B Bourgeois
Since Zoltans blow up when they die now, they're actually somewhat useful as a boarding party if you have a cloning bay :happyelf:

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...
This game is extremely hard now, holy poo poo. Time to set it down for the day, jesus christ. :psyduck:

Rookersh
Aug 19, 2010
:stare:

Just got a second Burst Laser 2 for free, followed by finding a Flak 2 in a shop. Have somehow received every race but Slug off of fighting Slavers and letting them escape. Saved up enough scrap to buy both a Mind Control Bay and a Hacking Bay off one of the earlier shops. And I'm still in Sector 2! If I can get some engine/shield upgrades on this ship, and actually get the power needed to equip that Flak 2 alongside my dual Burst Lasers, this run could go places.

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO
Yeah. The sheer number of gently caress you combos has gone up markedly.

Just Horizontal
Jul 11, 2011
Just a random thought, I think multiplayer would be quite interesting, hard to implement but it could be fun.

It could be a mp on/off menu toggle or something similar where you essentially run through the game as normal, but sometimes you can run into another player ship. For instance, if there's a shared pool of sectors that get randomly updated every so often, if you click onto the same blank node within a second or two of someone, you meet/duke it out.

It would be pretty rare still, but a mp interaction every so often would be a fun curveball to throw at players.

e: Secretly, I just want verification that I'm not playing bad and it's just the RNG+bullshit that keeps blowing me up

Minarchist
Mar 5, 2009

by WE B Bourgeois

Just Horizontal posted:

e: Secretly, I just want verification that I'm not playing bad and it's just the RNG+bullshit that keeps blowing me up

It's not you, the RNG really really hates us.

We seriously need an FTL version of :xcom:

Lynx
Nov 4, 2009

pogothemonkey0 posted:

Does anyone have screenshots for the type C layouts? I'm trying to figure out how worth it they are to unlock. I have a few, but some of them are giving me trouble. I really do not enjoy slug B or engi B. Slug B is kind of a lovely gimmick but becomes playable once you get a few crew members and medbay. Engi B seems like it could be okay but I get frustrated with only having one crew member.

The FTL wiki has them:

http://ftl.wikia.com/wiki/Ships

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...
Anybody got a copy of the save file for unlocking ships?

Ashsaber
Oct 24, 2010

Deploying Swordbreakers!
College Slice
Huh, stealth C starts with Long Range Scanners even though it doesn't have sensors to start with. Kinda silly, honestly.

Cheston
Jul 17, 2012

(he's got a good thing going)
Huh, I just had my first victory on Normal. Zoltan B, got a third Ion Blast and two Automated Reloaders. It was obscene, I had zero trouble keeping the Flagship's shields and a few other systems down.

I upgraded the engines early on, so the Zoltan Shield usually wouldn't go down. It felt really really easy, but every boarder seemed to board into the medbay or a door adjacent space, so maybe some luck there?

**Oh! And there's an event where Engi threaten to destroy your ship for harboring a highly-lethal computer virus. If you select the blue option for an Engi crew member, that crew member immediately dies to the virus, but comes back controlled by it with all skills maxed out once combat's over. Their name is "Virus."

Cheston fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Apr 5, 2014

Zeron
Oct 23, 2010

Wow, the Captains Edition mod updated real fast for the expansion. It's got alot of really cool stuff that wasn't there last time I checked, like Diablo-like random loot(only for the Infinite submod sadly) which also randomizes enemy ships/weapons. Really got to try this now.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
Started a new game and in the first sector, in two of the points closest to the starting edge of the map, I find two stores right next to each other. Even on Easy I've accumulated only 73 scrap by the time I reach these stores. The first one has a Glaive Beam. The second one has a Weapon Pre-igniter. This loving game.

edit: just to add insult to injury the stores carry nothing else of value so I can't even console myself with getting a cheap laser or something (Fed Cruiser A start)

Pornographic Memory fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Apr 5, 2014

my dad
Oct 17, 2012

this shall be humorous
"The guns... they've stopped" achievement can be won near a pulsar quite easily. You only need to stun one system, the star will do the rest.

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RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

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What should I be going for in the rock-b for against the flagship? Giving it a go, have the heavy pierce, hull smasher 1, fire bombs and hacking. Should I care about doors at all?

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