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I wouldn't call Bjergsen's ult a display of skill. Is this going to be another one of those games, all too familiar from the EU LCS, where Bjergsen has a solid game from stats but is largely useless in the actual game? That happened in TSM's last game against CLG... Hypocrisy fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Apr 6, 2014 |
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Apr 6, 2014 02:23
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Dyrus was just proxy farming, in C9's base, two lanes at a time.
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Apr 6, 2014 02:36
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Corki making such a comeback. There was debate about him going Berserker or Sorcerer's with him being heavily Magic damage... but with Soraka Magic Resistance shred, I'm not sure he needs them. Too bad Morgana doesn't have it anymore. If they'd been able to get Shyvana instead of Renekton, I think it'd be more one-sided for Cloud9.
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Apr 6, 2014 02:37
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Dear lord. Hai's ult completely negated the Explosive Cask. C9's laning is disgusting.
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Apr 6, 2014 02:42
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I love Soraka mid being used as a vehicle for early game distruction. So much for being a passive boring heal fest.
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Apr 6, 2014 02:44
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Scarra's channeling his power to extend the Dignitas curse into Korea.
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Xenogenesis posted:Scarra's channeling his power to extend the Dignitas curse into Korea. Talk about baron throws though, Najin Black Sword showing NA how it's done. Admittedly they had other problems than that throw that sealed their fate (Limit adopting the MaRin Renekton build and doing zero with it, PRay and Cain underperforming  ), but still.
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babydonthurtme posted:Just curious, are you talking about the Najin Black Sword vs Samsung Blue set, or do you mean some NA LCS thing I missed?
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Just came back to post this uaciaut posted:top3: c9, tsm, clg (post-dexter return)  I didn't have the balls to predict EU because i knew it would be a lot closer and it would've been hard to call, i expected Gambit and SK to effectively be in each others' position and CW to be higher compared to now but oh well.
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Apr 6, 2014 08:52
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Xenogenesis posted:Yeah I was talking about Masters.
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That masters meant another bunch of games full of Nidalee spears, yay. Getting pretty tired of seeing that champ in mid. I hope Riot does something like apply a CD penalty on miss treatment to spears, or ding the Heal. My predictions for NA were shamefully bad, I only got about 3 places right.
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Nidalee has to wait. It's more important to rework Lee Sin/Gragas. If Kassadin is anything to go by Nidalee will probably be reworked sometime in mid 2015.
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So C9 couldn't break or tie their record for most wins in a season, but they DID achieve another record: this is the first time that a team has had a winning record against every other team in the league. Even when C9 went 25-3, they were 2-2 against Vulcun, and now they're 4-0 or 3-1 against everyone.
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Apr 6, 2014 17:12
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Is the standings page wrong? http://na.lolesports.com/na-lcs/2014/split1/standings I thought tsm and c9 were tied before their match?
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Unless Riot decided to remake the game and play it in secret and it went the other way while none of us were looking, yes that standings page is wrong.
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Jonny Angel posted:Unless Riot decided to remake the game and play it in secret and it went the other way while none of us were looking, yes that standings page is wrong. God drat that is a nice troll by Riot. I checked the standings page today at work, since the match was at 3 am for me. Seeing the results I got exited (tsm fan). What a good game I will have to watch when I get home. Well this isn't going too well, I wonder how tsm makes the comeback... Any moment now... What!?
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Watching the replay of the OGN games this morning, it looks like that successful strategy by Prime Optimus is triggering a shift in the metagame for now. It's happened a few times since in South Korea and North America, but they are fairly aggressive in killing champions. I wonder if the seemingly slower Europe scene will adopt the same strategy? Alternatively, I'm curious if Riot will address it directly like they did with the tower armor increase.
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Scarra is going off on a commentary about how the trinket changes have changed the level 1s to be a coinflip and how the lack of vision is throwing everyone off. What I don't get: this is how every loving game was last year. What the loving poo poo? Yes, supports need to loving decide whether they start with a few wards or go with a lane oriented item if they want to sacrifice vision. It's like they forgot the entire "invade, let the support get their wards down so we can get favorable jungle starts and see if they want to 2v1." Literally every game used to be supports taking 5 wards and pots. That sucked for the supports, but hey, that was what the meta dictated, so go back to that to get an advantage rather than "ruh roh, we don't have any vision! we better invade and roll the dice! Riot really ruined the game!" or riot will come up with something like "support items now enable trinkets to be placed 30 seconds early!" or something like that.
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Scarra is so well spoken and comfortable speaking publicly, Riot really needs, like desperately needs, to fire Riv and get Scarra to replace him for commentary. Yeah he's a coach for one team but who the gently caress cares, pro sports have biased commentary all the time.
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mushi posted:Scarra is going off on a commentary about how the trinket changes have changed the level 1s to be a coinflip and how the lack of vision is throwing everyone off. We're probably still in a the adapting period and teams don't adapt super fast. Still, if he's just describing what's actually happening Scarra's not wrong, as long as he doesn't say something like early warding is impossible. With gp10 items becoming more useful for supports the wards are more of a tradeoff than before though, if you bring nothing to lane but wards and the other brings a combat stats item it might be dicey. So we get safe stacking for 2v1s so supports can by items. That, and I don't miss the support all-consumable start being the norm, so I kind of wish Riot would just revert it. PlaceholderPigeon fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Apr 6, 2014 |
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Apr 6, 2014 20:30
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Thank you hopeless, last place Korean team for teaching CLG how to be boring again
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PlaceholderPigeon posted:That, and I don't miss the support all-consumable start being the norm, so I kind of wish Riot would just revert it. But they don't seem like they're the best at understanding how their changes affect pro play. I wonder what they're thinking after the fast 2v1 lane swap tower push, trying to influence the game into straight up laning, and then seeing NA LCS go to "take two towers now and avoid fighting altogether until dragon becomes worth enough. Also, this Dig/CLG game is hilarious. The game is slowing devolving into ARAM except draft. DAM? edit: CLG is looking good just by virtue of dig being slow at evreything. You'd think of all teams, Dignitas would recognize when a team is trying their hardest to baron throw that poo poo. If annie was there 2 seconds sooner that would have been a tibbers slaughter. mushi fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Apr 6, 2014 |
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15 minute baron, no problem. CLG is running a train over Dig.
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Give the cameraman a raise. It's pretty awesome seeing Kha'zix disappear and reappear like that. Edit: Well, at least Dignitas got one kill.
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Holy poo poo... CLG is dominating DIG so hard. 3 inhibs at 20 minutes, 1 for 7 in favor of CLG  Game ended 21:35 Holy poo poo!
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That was pretty grim to watch from DIG perspective. Props to CLG!
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Woah, has there even been a more one sided game this split for NA? edit: I really like how Doublelift is basically refuting everything Scarra said directly beforehand about picks. Grinning Goblin fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Apr 6, 2014 |
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Mierenneuker posted:Give the cameraman a raise. It's pretty awesome seeing Kha'zix disappear and reappear like that. The camerawork in the LCS has been really good lately. They're making great use of switching vision to show how people are getting caught out by stealthed champions.
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This kind of macro movement focused meta is great for CLG's style and Monte's strategic focus. And he probably made them watch Prime vs SKTSFreaksaus posted:The camerawork in the LCS has been really good lately. They're making great use of switching vision to show how people are getting caught out by stealthed champions. I think its ClakeyD and NhatN on observer duty still? e: Scarra: "I think any player can play whatever champion pick they want" Doublelift: "Cruzer's like playing Jayce, he's the only person playing Jayce - so we're like, okay, they don't really want to win" I think Double is right here, and Scarra is making a mistake about non-meta champion picks being getting off easy. One has to think hard about why you should pick a champion and not just pick whatever. PlaceholderPigeon fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Apr 6, 2014 |
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Was Balls as good last season when he was playing non bruisers like Kennen? I'm just curious if its just the current meta that makes Dyrus/Balls/Nien (On Trundle) good, or if they could go back to playing carry tops and play them better as well. I don't remember the last time Dyrus played a non tanky top.
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Jayisspecial posted:Was Balls as good last season when he was playing non bruisers like Kennen? I'm just curious if its just the current meta that makes Dyrus/Balls/Nien (On Trundle) good, or if they could go back to playing carry tops and play them better as well. I don't remember the last time Dyrus played a non tanky top. Balls' Rumble was and is still godlike, and similar with Dyrus' Vladimir. Although he didn't get to bring that one out very often.
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PlaceholderPigeon posted:This kind of macro movement focused meta is great for CLG's style and Monte's strategic focus. And he probably made them watch Prime vs SKTS Nhat is strictly replay, I think. Clakey was too, but he may have been moved up. There is another rioter who has been doing camera work for a long time who is main observer.
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Jayisspecial posted:Was Balls as good last season when he was playing non bruisers like Kennen? I'm just curious if its just the current meta that makes Dyrus/Balls/Nien (On Trundle) good, or if they could go back to playing carry tops and play them better as well. I don't remember the last time Dyrus played a non tanky top.
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I don't even think Nien is that good of an individual player. I think aside from Dyrus and Balls, NA top lane is kind of a wasteland.
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Previous Jesus posted:I don't even think Nien is that good of an individual player. I think aside from Dyrus and Balls, NA top lane is kind of a wasteland. Yeah, I still feel like Nien's decision making is lacking. Not sure what they can do to fix it at this point, because they're so far into the season - a more dependable Top would be better though. Someone like Looper.
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Looks like another 3/4man tower push start. Despite losing in the OGN tournament, that Prime Optimus team's strategy is having quite a shakeup on the meta scene! I kind of disagree with people who said that SKT S threw it - as Monte said, SKT's manager is invested in SKT S. I think their overall strategy just threw SKT S for a loop (the second game was closer). I don't think anyone had played against it, and SKT S had no idea how to respond. This strategy is just really effective and safe at securing objectives and gold early... and on champions that gain a lot from early gold (like Jax and Ryze), it's loving brilliant. Twitch viewers seem to hate it, even though it seems like it makes the games more brawly and less boring to me.
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PlaceholderPigeon posted:Yeah, I still feel like Nien's decision making is lacking. Not sure what they can do to fix it at this point, because they're so far into the season - a more dependable Top would be better though. Someone like Looper. Looper obviously isn't a possibility though, so who do they look for? Most of the top laners in challenger do their best work on out of meta champions. The top challenger teams use those players and do well until they get into the LCS. Godlike is not an option and Westrice is kind of unreliable. Mega Zero had a pretty good run on CoL and plays a good Renekton. I don't know anyone else that I'd throw on a top 3 NA team.
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