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Why is it that even in female-centered promotions like SHIMMER, et al, literally every single referee is a man?
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Castomira posted:Why is it that even in female-centered promotions like SHIMMER, et al, literally every single referee is a man? I don't know about Shimmer, but in most promotions could it be concern over male-on-female violence during ref bumps? For what it's worth, the indie I used to go see in Regina, Saskatchewan had a female ref.
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Apr 6, 2014 15:00
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Castomira posted:Why is it that even in female-centered promotions like SHIMMER, et al, literally every single referee is a man? Refereeing is pretty much the last gasp for guys that really want to be in the business but aren't physically capable of wrestling long-term or charismatic enough to be a manager. End result, every indie connected to a training camp has their own set of referees that sucked at wrestling and sucked at promos but were still willing to pay the fee for referee training, which means the pool of 20-something male referees nationwide is pretty massive. Meanwhile a female that doesn't wrestle is pretty much assured a valet/manager gig no matter how uncharismatic they may be. Some of them do choose to go into refereeing instead, obviously, but it's not as automatic as it tends to be for men.
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Apr 6, 2014 19:26
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Did the WWF or even WCW ever seriously pursue getting Arnold Schwarzenegger to wrestle a match during his prime? Arnold wrestling in a tag team main event ala Mr. T would have been a huge draw. It also seems like of any celebrity he would be the easiest to convince since he was friends with Jessie Ventura and Andre the Giant and seems like he might be a genuine wrestling fan.
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Apr 6, 2014 20:25
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What are considered some of Sting's best matches?
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Apr 6, 2014 20:29
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Officer Farva posted:What are considered some of Sting's best matches? vs Flair from Clash 1 w/ Luger vs Steiners from Super Brawl I War Games 91 War Games 92 vs Vader from Starrcade 92 (and most of the Vader matches) vs DDP from Nitro in 99
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Apr 6, 2014 20:34
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oldskool posted:Refereeing is pretty much the last gasp for guys that really want to be in the business but aren't physically capable of wrestling long-term or charismatic enough to be a manager. End result, every indie connected to a training camp has their own set of referees that sucked at wrestling and sucked at promos but were still willing to pay the fee for referee training, which means the pool of 20-something male referees nationwide is pretty massive. How does Little Naitch fit into this?
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Apr 6, 2014 20:36
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Officer Farva posted:What are considered some of Sting's best matches? Vs Jeff Hardy from Victory Road 2011
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Apr 6, 2014 20:38
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Officer Farva posted:What are considered some of Sting's best matches? vs. Flair, Clash 88 Wargames 91 Wargames 92 vs. Vader, Starrcade 92 vs. Cactus, Beach Blast 92 vs. DDP, Nitro April 1999 vs. Kurt Angle, Bound for Glory 2007
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Apr 6, 2014 20:40
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Nice. Thanks, guys.
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Apr 6, 2014 20:48
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I'm looking for a vintage sandman white budweiser blood sweat and tears shirt, do you guys have any good sites or is ebay the main route?
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Apr 6, 2014 20:53
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Gonzo McFee posted:Vs Jeff Hardy from Victory Road 2011 I agree. I agree.
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Apr 6, 2014 21:05
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Castomira posted:Why is it that even in female-centered promotions like SHIMMER, et al, literally every single referee is a man? In some places it is probably also to keep costs down. From what I remember, most of SHIMMER's initial shows were run on the same weekends ROH had events in the Chicago area, so they could use the same ring crew, refs and other workers. Which also lead to some entertaining dark match stuff like the Come As You Are Rumble before the first SHIMMER taping, which featured like half the ROH roster at that time.
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Apr 6, 2014 21:28
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Gonzo McFee posted:Vs Jeff Hardy from Victory Road 2011 Did you see how fast he beat him? Talent.
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Apr 6, 2014 21:34
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Germansimp posted:In some places it is probably also to keep costs down. From what I remember, most of SHIMMER's initial shows were run on the same weekends ROH had events in the Chicago area, so they could use the same ring crew, refs and other workers. If I remember correctly, there was one single female referee in the WWE in the late 80s or early 90s. She didn't last very long, she was either ran out or quit due to sexual harassment. I would like to think the locker room would be a lot better about that now but who really knows? EDIT: Per Wikipedia; quote:Rita Chatterton (ring name: "Rita Marie") was a former referee who is noted for her stint in the WWF in the 1980s. She is known for being the first ever female referee in the WWF, possibly in pro wrestling history.[96] Her times there, however, were shrouded in controversy, due to sexual harassment charges against owner McMahon. On April 3, 1992, Chatterton made an appearance on Geraldo Rivera's television show Now It Can Be Told alleging that on July 16, 1986 McMahon tried to force her to perform oral sex on him in his limousine and, after her rebuttal, subjected her to rape.
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Apr 6, 2014 22:07
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I am watching the HBK/Taker match from WM26 before WM starts right now. As I stopped paying attention to WWE at the time, how long was Matt Striker on commentary? Because dear God he is horrific.
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Apr 6, 2014 22:25
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I've been tuned out since about a week after Cena returned early. Where's Mark Henry, Sheamus and Show at? And is it looking like the Shield will split anytime soon?
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Apr 6, 2014 22:27
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Nilbop posted:I've been tuned out since about a week after Cena returned early. Where's Mark Henry, Sheamus and Show at? Mark Henry is taking some time off after Brock Lesnar laid him out. Sheamus and Big Show are in the Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal They teased The Shield breakup for several weeks but then turned them face after a feud with The Wyatt Family. They will probably split at some point down the road
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Apr 6, 2014 22:28
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What is this blue dot thing supposed to be referencing?
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Apr 7, 2014 01:08
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Perdido posted:What is this blue dot thing supposed to be referencing? Vince's proposal to cover up Christian's ugliness.
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MassRafTer posted:Vince's proposal to cover up Christian's ugliness. What, just constantly have a blue dot over his face on RAW?
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Apr 7, 2014 03:57
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Perdido posted:What, just constantly have a blue dot over his face on RAW? Yes. This was literally a thing Vince suggested. I like Christian but he's so ugly. What if he had a blue dot over his face like the networks did with the woman that accused some Kennedy of rape? Cause like he's so ugly that you can't show him on TV!
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Luigi Thirty posted:Yes. This was literally a thing Vince suggested. I like Christian but he's so ugly. What if he had a blue dot over his face like the networks did with the woman that accused some Kennedy of rape? Cause like he's so ugly that you can't show him on TV! I thought he was specific that Christian's face bothered him for reasons other than ugliness.
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Apr 7, 2014 04:05
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What was the last major WWE show before tonight that had 4 different 20+ minute matches?
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Apr 7, 2014 05:09
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flashy_mcflash posted:That's what I thought - how could someone hope that Taker would be the mystery partner when that was his first exposure to the audience? Unless you were in attendance for those tapings. Sorry, went away for the weekend. I should explain I'm in Belgium. At the time, we got WWF PPV's for free on cable, but with a significant delay. So I saw the Survivor Series after Taker had already shown up in vignettes and I think doing squash matches. I either missed Survivor series recaps or the programs were edited to keep the results out of Superstars and Wrestling Challenge.
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Thauros posted:What was the last major WWE show before tonight that had 4 different 20+ minute matches?
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Apr 7, 2014 14:32
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Bad Wolf posted:Sorry, went away for the weekend. I should explain I'm in Belgium. At the time, we got WWF PPV's for free on cable, but with a significant delay. So I saw the Survivor Series after Taker had already shown up in vignettes and I think doing squash matches. I either missed Survivor series recaps or the programs were edited to keep the results out of Superstars and Wrestling Challenge. Ah, that makes sense. We were in a bit of a bubble here in Canada so I can understand if you didn't see the PPV live you wouldn't know the results until later. It was such a different time, pre-internet.
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So I think we can all agree that yesterday Daniel Bryan had a huge, impressive night. Can anyone think of another Pay Per View event that had one person competing multiple times and winning so cleanly and effectively? Closest I can think of is Brock at Rumble 03 where he overhead suplexed the Big Show on the way to winning clean, then entered, dominated, and won the Rumble Match.
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projecthalaxy posted:So I think we can all agree that yesterday Daniel Bryan had a huge, impressive night. Can anyone think of another Pay Per View event that had one person competing multiple times and winning so cleanly and effectively? Closest I can think of is Brock at Rumble 03 where he overhead suplexed the Big Show on the way to winning clean, then entered, dominated, and won the Rumble Match. Jericho defeated Rock and Austin at Vengeance 2001.
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Apr 7, 2014 17:49
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maniacripper posted:Jericho defeated Rock and Austin at Vengeance 2001. You missed the part where he said 'cleanly and effectively'.
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Apr 7, 2014 17:59
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Bret Hart at KOTR 93?
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Great White Hope posted:You missed the part where he said 'cleanly and effectively'. It was clean by 2001 standards  Effective as heck too
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Apr 7, 2014 18:09
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Does Bryan's knee have a name yet?
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Apr 7, 2014 18:14
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Halloween Jack posted:Does Bryan's knee have a name yet? The Knee That Beat John Cena
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Apr 7, 2014 18:15
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Jay 2K Winger posted:The Knee That Beat John Cena The Knee That Beat John Cena AND Triple H!
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Apr 7, 2014 18:18
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The Push
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Apr 7, 2014 18:19
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Halloween Jack posted:Does Bryan's knee have a name yet? It's a flying knee.
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Apr 7, 2014 18:20
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I thought Bryan referred to it as a Solid Knee Plus a few weeks back.
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Apr 7, 2014 18:23
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Halloween Jack posted:Does Bryan's knee have a name yet? Last night it was called That's The Knee That Beat Triple H
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This knee kills fascists
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