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Never looks good when a legislator is that dumb. Maybe don't conduct your extramarital affairs in your own loving office jesus
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Monkey Fracas posted:Never looks good when a legislator is that dumb. Maybe don't conduct your extramarital affairs in your own loving office jesus But that's where the staffers are!
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Apr 7, 2014 23:01
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Monkey Fracas posted:Never looks good when a legislator is that dumb. Maybe don't conduct your extramarital affairs in your own loving office jesus In theory that's the best place to do it. You control access, you don't have to worry about things like hotels showing up on charge lists, no one asks why you and the staffer keep going to the same motel all the time because there is justification for being at the office, you don't have to worry about being followed by camera crews or it being bugged... Really since it is his office he should control who gets to see the security footage as well so this shouldn't be an issue, so it is a good question as to why it is.
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Apr 7, 2014 23:09
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Clinton and Monica did it in a windowless corridor next to the Oval Office because he was worried that gardeners would see.
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Parallel Paraplegic posted:Aren't private schools allowed to basically kick out any They can also teach whatever bullshit they want, which is why Creationism's on the rise and the people behind it should be publicly flogged, right after the anti-vaxers are shipped to the nearest 3rd world country suffering from a preventable disease. Obama's a big fan of poo poo like charter schools too and if either candidate in 2016 is against them I'll be loving stunned. Clinton would be pretty much guaranteed to double down on them. comes along bort posted:Out of all those only Christie was a potential establishment pick for 2016, and therefore actually stood a chance at becoming president. Which was my point- Jeb's Plan B because the one guy they'd pinned their hopes on done hosed up. Nixon lost an election then came back and won one, and let's be perfectly clear here: The GOP will absolutely hold this as a favorable comparison because Watergate is nothing compared to   BENGHAZI OMBAMACARE GUN STEALING MUSLIM SOCIALISTS BANNING JESUS
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Apr 7, 2014 23:31
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Creationism is on the rise because of the loving Australians.
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Apr 7, 2014 23:36
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Shbobdb posted:Hell, "Black Panthers" remains a boogeyman for rightwing racists to this day. Why? Because they are terrified of an educated and armed black man. Or at least one of those.
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computer parts posted:Or at least one of those. Either or both, really.
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Not just the Australians, Minnesotans too.quote:In his convention speech, [Aaron] Miller called for limited government, reduction of the federal deficit and the repeal of the Affordable Care Act, which he said could not be fixed. He said he can also reach out to the youth vote, which he said would be important for a Republican in the race. During this speech, he had about 20 college Republicans who work with his campaign standing in front of the stage. He's running for Congress in Minnesota's 1st CD, which is R+1, but held by Tim Walz (D) who won in 2012 with 58% of the vote.
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Joementum posted:Not just the Australians, Minnesotans too. Glad someone is going to fight for the freedom to have their religion be front and center.
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Fried Chicken posted:Why the gently caress would anyone vote for Jeb Bush? Did you just blank out your memory between 2001 and 2008? Or do you think we need more successful terror attacks, more kidnap torture kill squads, more wars, more intentional inflation of destructive financial bubbles, more bailouts, more crumbling infrastructure, more spies outed for political points, more naked graft, more fictitious and politically motivated lawsuits against other parties, more using counterterror assets against anti war protestors, abuse of eminent domain to seize private assets, more destruction of cities and more private appropriation of public assets? he said Jeb Bush and by Republican standards he's not quite the horrible monster that seems to be the modern standard of Republican front runners. He's been smart enough to stay out of the fray when you think about it. As a resident of Florida, I can personally attest that he's not nearly the dummy and incompetent fool that George W. was/is. I don't like him and likely wouldn't vote for him, don't get me wrong, but he wouldn't be an incompetent retard or a cartoonish over lord. As Republicans go, he'd be credible enough. Chris Christie posted:He was governor of my state from 1999-2006. And he was What this guy said, along with the edit and the "hating Hillary" part. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Apr 7, 2014 |
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The current state of the SCOTUS is reason enough not to vote a Republican into the Oval Office no matter how level-headed they are for the next 8 years.
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Boon posted:The current state of the SCOTUS is reason enough not to vote a Republican into the Oval Office no matter how level-headed they are for the next 8 years. I continually wish I could determine the precise course of events that would lead to Thomas or Scalia retiring before RBG, but they seem to have enough hate in their engines to keep burning for decades. 
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loquacius posted:I continually wish I could determine the precise course of events that would lead to Thomas or Scalia retiring before RBG, but they seem to have enough hate in their engines to keep burning for decades. Even if one of them dropped dead tomorrow of a heart attack, the GOP is going to stall whatever nomination comes up as long as they can just in case Jindel 2016 or whatever somehow happens.
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BiggerBoat posted:he said Jeb Bush and by Republican standards he's not quite the horrible monster that seems to be the modern standard of Republican front runners. He's been smart enough to stay out of the fray when you think about it. I know we are discussing Jeb. My point is it doesn't matter. The two are identical from any sort of policy or leadership standpoint. I'm yet to see a single speck of evidence that somehow swapping out the guy in the head chair, but keeping every other fuckwit would somehow make it all better. Do you think W was running around, micromanaging everyone? Do you think that this time when we elect a guy with an identical power base, identical network of political allies, identical agenda, and identical ideological axe to grind, we won't get the same crew that worked in the White House 6 years ago? Or maybe it is the same crew of fuckwits out to prove their way is right and it would have been great if Nixon hadn't been bounced out, who will be lead by another shitheel who is firmly committed to enabling them to prove their agenda again, and it will result in the same loving travesty? The "good leaders", "firm hands" and "technocrats" Jeb will fill his cabinet with, appoint to the bench, and pick to head departments will come from the same pool that W picked his, because they come from the exact same network. You will absolutely see Wolfwitz or Bolton or Frum or Paulson have a position in a Jeb administration. Y'all say "Jeb's the competent one" like that is reassuring. If W had been competent he'd have been able to push through the rest of his goals of privatizing Social Security, a 3rd war, and continued control of congress (meaning a bankrupt FDIC when the crash came and the DoJ scandal would have been more aggressive). The problem isn't the person swinging the pen, the problem is the ideological and political network they represent. They don't see anything W did as a failure except that they couldn't privatize Social Security. The wars, the torture, the murders, the financcial bubble, the payouts, the massive graft... those aren't gently caress ups. That is the PLAN.
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Zombie Samurai posted:Would Democrats even lose votes if they came out and said "We don't give a gently caress about your guns"? Because I'm pretty sure there's no combination of Dems you could elect that would result in any substantial restrictions on gun ownership. Why not just say it out loud and pick up some idiot single-issue votes? Well, the hardline ideological elements of your party might bring out the base and primary you.
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loquacius posted:I continually wish I could determine the precise course of events that would lead to Thomas or Scalia retiring before RBG, but they seem to have enough hate in their engines to keep burning for decades.
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I'm really looking forward to the Constitutional crisis that happens during Hillary's term when three justices on the Supreme Court need to be replaced and the Republicans keep stalling each and every single one. Unstack the court! Edit: Originalism! Edit 2: Also, why didn't "Got Mittens?" become a huge loving meme during the Romney campaign? I really feel like we missed out on a great opportunity there. Shbobdb fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Apr 8, 2014 |
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Shbobdb posted:I'm really looking forward to the Constitutional crisis that happens during Hillary's term when three justices on the Supreme Court need to be replaced and the Republicans keep stalling each and every single one. Son of a bitch, we really did.
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Joementum posted:Not just the Australians, Minnesotans too. I swear to God, Michelle Bachmann aside we're not all crazy up here. We're also probably not going to go Republican again soon--I wouldn't put it out of possibility, since this is a very rural state for the most part, and there is still some legitimate madness stewing in Anoka. But we've had full Democrats in power for a couple years, and the economy's been going whizzo, especially when you compare it to Wisconsin next door who have gone in completely the opposite direction. The state was in a massive, several billion dollar hole a few years ago, and now FY2014-2015 is predicted to run a 48 million dollar surplus (provided I've read the chart correctly). http://www.mmb.state.mn.us/forecast-documents-feb-14
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comes along bort posted:Out of all those only Christie was a potential establishment pick for 2016, and therefore actually stood a chance at becoming president. Which was my point- Jeb's Plan B because the one guy they'd pinned their hopes on done hosed up. That's just a non-starter, modern America won't vote for a general election loser and any campaign will just seem desperate.
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Redeye Flight posted:I swear to God, Michelle Bachmann aside we're not all crazy up here. We're also probably not going to go Republican again soon--I wouldn't put it out of possibility, since this is a very rural state for the most part, and there is still some legitimate madness stewing in Anoka. But we've had full Democrats in power for a couple years, and the economy's been going whizzo, especially when you compare it to Wisconsin next door who have gone in completely the opposite direction. The state was in a massive, several billion dollar hole a few years ago, and now FY2014-2015 is predicted to run a 48 million dollar surplus (provided I've read the chart correctly). This just means that there is excellent political opportunity to unfuck my home state. Some day.
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Hasters posted:That's just a non-starter, modern America won't vote for a general election loser and any campaign will just seem desperate. But they're strangely drawn to vote for Massachusetts Governors elected out of office.
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Boon posted:The current state of the SCOTUS is reason enough not to vote a Republican into the Oval Office no matter how level-headed they are for the next 8 years. I know empty quotes are frowned upon but this, underscored. Look at how many of the GOP's pet issues have gotten a favorable hearing with the current crop, now imagine that continuing for decades.
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Hasters posted:That's just a non-starter, modern America won't vote for a general election loser and any campaign will just seem desperate. I think it's meaningless too, but the party actually is starting to get a little desperate with Christie's ongoing situation.
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Fried Chicken posted:Stuff about George and Jeb Bush No, I get all that. I just think Jeb is much more qualified for the office than George could ever dream of being and at the very least isn't a walking, retarded punch line like his idiot brother. I even said I wouldn't vote for him. But also that by modern Republican standards, he fits the bill as a reasonable GOP candidate. I thought I made my point clear but maybe not.
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The Warszawa posted:I'm Hendrixposting so brevity but I concur. It's a really, really funny show. Less partisan than The Thick of It, which wasn't explicitly partisan except that you could clearly categorize the cast, whereas with Veep all the policy topics are milquetoast center-center-left uncontroversial things. It's got a different sensibility than Alpha House, which is way more rooted in actual political context rather than a "politics" atmosphere. From a couple pages back but yeah everyone reading this thread should get on that poo poo pronto. Apparently the characters have become shorthand among actual DC people: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/22/fashion/veep-hits-lots-of-nerves.html?_r=0
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Jeb Bush would be just as terrible as W, who was in fact the worst 2-term president ever.
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BiggerBoat posted:No, I get all that. I'll be honest, I get pretty heated about anything from 2000-2008 and was most of a 16 oz in when I responded
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comes along bort posted:From a couple pages back but yeah everyone reading this thread should get on that poo poo pronto. Personally I think the fact that DC people apparently hate Jonah more than Dan says a lot about them. Also I must not be meeting the important DC people since I have never heard anyone reference the show like that  .
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Fried Chicken posted:I'll be honest, I get pretty heated about anything from 2000-2008 and was most of a 16 oz in when I responded Sounds like you need to chill out, maybe smoke a - oh
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forbidden lesbian posted:Sounds like you need to chill out, maybe smoke a - oh I didn't stop drinking after the 16 so idgi
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Oh, I read your post wrong, I thought you meant 16th of an oz.
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From a few pages back but seriously, D&D? A multi-page derail on wage discussion and not one mention of https://www.glassdoor.com? Report your salaries. Encourage your coworkers to as well.
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BiggerBoat posted:No, I get all that. Jeb is the perfect modern Republican candidate, because he simultaneously politically credible and also horrible and grotesque beyond all possible parody.
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As a lurker who just read all this in amusement, I just need a favor. I teach in Louisiana, so could yall just make sure that when Jindal goes out on his ill fated primary run, he doesn't like, come back here? Just like get him a FOX News job or something. Please.
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forbidden lesbian posted:Oh, I read your post wrong, I thought you meant 16th of an oz. Doorstop posted:As a lurker who just read all this in amusement, I just need a favor. I teach in Louisiana, so could yall just make sure that when Jindal goes out on his ill fated primary run, he doesn't like, come back here? Just like get him a FOX News job or something. Please. How much are we spending teaching creationism state by state? I know it is 82 billion total but that is TX LA KY and two I don't recall
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Fried Chicken posted:i am nowhere near that cool Good news, everyone! With more and more states inevitably legalizing the Devil's weed, soon every unhip square can be toking jazz cigarettes all the live-long day.
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Fried Chicken posted:i am nowhere near that cool Funny enough, I am a high school Biology teacher, and since I now get evaluated strictly on standardized testing (sucks) I have to adhere my classes really tightly to a set of GLEs that oddly does not include 'alternate theories'. I'm sure it will at some point, but thus far (six years) I've just started my evolution section off by gently making fun of 'I ain't no monkey' idiocy with a good powerpoint over hominid evolution. Since I teach in a pretty lovely place, economically, many of my kids don't come in with a strong, albeit wrong (Creationism), opinion, and they are pretty fascinated by Homo Habilis and Erectus, and think that the Australopithecines are interesting.
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To y'all thinking Jeb isn't too bad: Check out the 2000 debates between W and Gore. GWB seemed well-spoken and reasonable too. Blame 9/11 all you want for him falling off whatever wagon he was on, but now we are dealing with the party that took the Bush years and made them orthodoxy. Jeb will be just as bad, but with a better grasp of language.
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