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De Nomolos posted:Wow, and I though NC gave its legislature the most power. 3/5ths of the GA overrides a veto. This reminds me of when Massachusetts realized Governor Romney might be able to appoint Kerry's replacement if he won the Presidency, and revoked the governor's right to appoint replacement senators by a veto-proof majority.
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evilweasel posted:This reminds me of when Massachusetts realized Governor Romney might be able to appoint Kerry's replacement if he won the Presidency, and revoked the governor's right to appoint replacement senators by a veto-proof majority. And then they gave the Governor that power again once Romney had left office 
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Apr 4, 2014 01:03
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glowing-fish posted:So basically it is like countries with a President/Prime Minister system, where the President is ceremonial and has a few official duties, but most of the wheeling and dealing is done by the Lieutenant Governor? Sort of, but unlike a parliamentary system the Lieutenant Governor's party doesn't necessarily have a majority (edit: or at least isn't the head of a coalition or something) in the legislature.
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evilweasel posted:Lt. Governor isn't the Governor. In Texas the Governor is a figurehead compared to the Lt., and you're looking at why. Whoopsie, misread that.
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Apr 4, 2014 02:08
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Miltank posted:what good is a veto that only need a simple majority to overrule? Its basically just symbolic at that point right? At least in Indiana's case, the legislature is only in session for 3 months in even numbered years and 4-ish months in odd numbered years. Pretty hard to overrule a veto if the legislator has adjourned. And they HAVE to adjourn on a certain day every year. Sometimes you'll hear stories of a budget still being stapled together and a House Speaker will order his intern to stop the wall clocks to prevent them from hitting midnight. They can always call a special session if they really wanna overrule something. But most of the time they just wait until the next year's session happens and address it then.
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Apr 4, 2014 14:53
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Joementum posted:And then they gave the Governor that power again once Romney had left office Are you sure? Pretty sure we got Senator Scott Brown because they couldn't do that. Speaking of Scott Brown, he has FINALLY announced.... ...that he will announce his candidacy for Senate in New Hampshire next week. quote:MANCHESTER, N.H. —Former Massachusetts Sen. Scott Brown is on the verge of officially announcing a run for U.S. Senate in New Hampshire. Oh Scott Brown you tease. We're just so tickled to have you around.
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edit: Never mind, I was confused about the appointment of Mo Cowan and forgot that Markey was a special election following that appointment.
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Apr 4, 2014 15:06
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There was serious talk before Scott Brown got elected about reversing that law, but that was a little too cynical even for Massachusetts. Whoops!
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Apr 4, 2014 15:26
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evilweasel posted:There was serious talk before Scott Brown got elected about reversing that law, but that was a little too cynical even for Massachusetts. Yeah that's what I remember too. Still, it all Warrened out in the end.
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Apr 4, 2014 15:44
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At least we get to watch Scott Brown lose 2 elections in 2 years. That's fun.
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Apr 4, 2014 15:54
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He will lose, correct? I mean, New Hampshire can't possibly fall for this barncoat-and-truck-everyman BS. It was exposed already, and I'm fairly sure that the NH media markets got saturated with it during our last Senate election.
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Apr 4, 2014 16:14
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Alter Ego posted:He will lose, correct? I mean, New Hampshire can't possibly fall for this barncoat-and-truck-everyman BS. It was exposed already, and I'm fairly sure that the NH media markets got saturated with it during our last Senate election. Let us pray New Hampshire can smell the taint of Massachusetts on him. The president also pointed out not too long ago that Scott Brown voted with the president 70% of the time when he was Senator of Massachusetts.
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Apr 4, 2014 16:25
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Is it possible to be a trans-New England carpetbagger?
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Alter Ego posted:He will lose, correct? I mean, New Hampshire can't possibly fall for this barncoat-and-truck-everyman BS. It was exposed already, and I'm fairly sure that the NH media markets got saturated with it during our last Senate election. He's over 13 points down in the polls and Shaheen is pretty popular. He's a major longshot.
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Apr 4, 2014 16:28
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SavageBastard posted:There was serious talk before Scott Brown got elected about reversing that law, but that was a little too cynical even for Massachusetts. They did change the law so that the vacancy would be filled during the pre-election period, which provided the crucial 60th vote for Obamacare in the Senate. People were grumpy about the about-face at the time, so it helped Brown a bit in the special election （not that it was a huge issue).
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Apr 4, 2014 17:17
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SedanChair posted:Is it possible to be a trans-New England carpetbagger? I think it depends on the direction. Going from city to country is a bit worse since it's usually under the guise of coming from the city to build a McMansion in a scenic place and in turn jack up property values on the locals, and property taxes are already very high (esp in NH). It's why my family left coastal RI.
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Apr 5, 2014 04:30
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Let us pray New Hampshire can smell the taint of Massachusetts on him. The president also pointed out not too long ago that Scott Brown voted with the president 70% of the time when he was Senator of Massachusetts. If anyone could be considered consummate taint-smellers it's New Hampshire.
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notthegoatseguy posted:At least in Indiana's case, the legislature is only in session for 3 months in even numbered years and 4-ish months in odd numbered years. Pretty hard to overrule a veto if the legislator has adjourned. And they HAVE to adjourn on a certain day every year. Sometimes you'll hear stories of a budget still being stapled together and a House Speaker will order his intern to stop the wall clocks to prevent them from hitting midnight. The best setup is the states that have to adjourn by a certain date, and also if they don't pass a budget the state government shuts down. In Minnesota we've had multiple shutdowns over the past decade due to "hurrr TAXES" dickwaving between the legislature and the governor.
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Alter Ego posted:He will lose, correct? I mean, New Hampshire can't possibly fall for this barncoat-and-truck-everyman BS. It was exposed already, and I'm fairly sure that the NH media markets got saturated with it during our last Senate election. Shaheen is a popular, centrist Senator who was Governor for 2 or 3 terms before that so she isn't going to roll over easily. Turnout demographics are against her and Scott Brown has significant name recognition so the establishment partisans are obviously happy but his notoriety was an immediate boon to Shaheen who reportedly saw a massive uptick in contributions after he announced his pre-pre-announcement. It will be an interesting race.
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Apr 6, 2014 12:28
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SavageBastard posted:Shaheen is a popular, centrist Senator who was Governor for 2 or 3 terms before that so she isn't going to roll over easily. Turnout demographics are against her and Scott Brown has significant name recognition so the establishment partisans are obviously happy but his notoriety was an immediate boon to Shaheen who reportedly saw a massive uptick in contributions after he announced his pre-pre-announcement. It will be an interesting race. This is all really interesting because wasn't one of the theories about this race that he was running in order to discharge campaign debt from Massachusetts, and not actually running a real campaign?
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Apr 6, 2014 14:20
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According to the FEC, his campaign committee for US Senate in Massachusetts as of 12/31/2012, has no campaign debt.
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ErIog posted:This is all really interesting because wasn't one of the theories about this race that he was running in order to discharge campaign debt from Massachusetts, and not actually running a real campaign? Even if he had campaign debt this sounds like a cynical liberal myth to me. These people run for congress because they think they should be in congress and there are thousands of Republicans, some with giant piles of cash from other states, telling him "you are awesome we want you to run." What else has he got to do, anyway? That truck sure isn't hauling dirt.
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Apr 6, 2014 19:43
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Bqhatevwr, Scott Brown forgot to tell the FEC that he's a Republican.
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Apr 7, 2014 17:56
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This campaign has serious potential for dark comedy. Isn't Jeanne Shaheen Lebanese? Can't wait to hear ol' Scott call her a lesbian. e: No, as it turns out, her husband Bill is Lebanese-American. Even better--Scott can accuse her of marrying a lesbian.
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Alter Ego posted:Isn't Jeanne Shaheen Lebanese? Hmm, good question. Sounds like something the Boston Herald should look into.
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Apr 7, 2014 18:00
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Joementum posted:Hmm, good question. Sounds like something the Boston Herald should look into. The Herald wrote so many articles deriding "Squaw Warren"'s heritage that I think their editorial staff is all 12.
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Alter Ego posted:The Herald wrote so many articles deriding "Squaw Warren"'s heritage that I think their editorial staff is all 12. They're going to have trouble topping their creation of Fauxcahontas and Lieawatha if they try to come up with portmanteaus to attack Shaheen.
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Apr 7, 2014 18:07
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I know the Herald is bad, but did they actually call her "squaw"? Because good god.
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Mecca-Benghazi posted:I know the Herald is bad, but did they actually call her "squaw"? Because good god. It was pretty blatantly racist/offensive, and the Brown campaign did precisely zero to discourage that speech. Hell, they more or less outright encouraged it.
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Apr 7, 2014 22:37
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It's almost hard to believe Scott Brown is real sometimes. He's like the comically incompetent bad guy in a poorly written romantic comedy. I half expect some Adam Sandler character to run against him when he decides that he was really from Maine and moves there for the next election cycle.
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In the "loving Duh" section of the news, convicted criminal, noted liar, and pimp costume enthusiast James O'Keefe's video about Battleground Texas violating election laws was thrown out by the Republican special prosecutor."KXAN News posted:AUSTIN (AP) — A state district judge has thrown out a complaint filed against the Democratic group Battleground Texas that was based on a conservative filmmaker’s video. Xarthor fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Apr 8, 2014 |
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Apr 8, 2014 02:46
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Still waiting for them to pull an Acorn and vilify this group anyway.
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Apr 8, 2014 03:21
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Does anything scare Republicans more than the possibility of a blue Texas?
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A black ______?
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Bicyclops posted:It's almost hard to believe Scott Brown is real sometimes. He's like the comically incompetent bad guy in a poorly written romantic comedy. I half expect some Adam Sandler character to run against him when he decides that he was really from Maine and moves there for the next election cycle. The guy barely knows which state he lives in, can't give him too much grief not remembering which political party he belongs to.
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Roumba posted:A black.
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Apr 8, 2014 12:39
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OAquinas posted:It was pretty blatantly racist/offensive, and the Brown campaign did precisely zero to discourage that speech. Hell, they more or less outright encouraged it. They went so far as to stand outside Warren campaign events doing the tomahawk chop.
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Alter Ego posted:They went so far as to stand outside Warren campaign events doing the tomahawk chop. They aren't exactly campaign geniuses-- they hired local homeless people in Boston to wear "Obama Voters for Brown" shirts and try to win the black vote. Scott Brown did not win the black vote.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:The guy barely knows which state he lives in, can't give him too much grief not remembering which political party he belongs to. What I don't get is why he chose NH. That's a pretty intelligent state. Why not Florida? No one is actually from there and they'll elect criminals if they like old people enough and know the right lies to tell.
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De Nomolos posted:What I don't get is why he chose NH. That's a pretty intelligent state. Why not Florida? No one is actually from there and they'll elect criminals if they like old people enough and know the right lies to tell. It's a lot easier for him to carpetbag his way into NH, which shares a lot of culture with Massachusetts but is considerably more conservative, than it is to go to a random state.
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