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THE loving MOON posted:I really sincerely doubt it would work, but I'll bet the reason why they decided to release the 3DS version first is to drum up hype for the Wii U version. Nintendo's confident that Smash is going to be a hit, and they're probably hanging their hopes for the Wii U on people playing the 3DS version, and wanting to play on the TV. If they did it the other way around, the Wii U version wouldn't generate nearly as much good word of mouth as the 3DS version would just because there are so many more people who have a 3DS. If so, Nintendo would have to make a big marketing push out of playing Smash 'the way its meant to be', or some such, both to convince people who maybe haven't hopped onboard at all to skip straight to the Wii U version, but also those that already have the game to then go out and get it again. I mean, its not impossible to do I would think, especially since as you said, you can have a potentially larger audience made aware in advance, but the words 'Nintendo' and 'marketing' together kinda leave me worried by this point.
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Alteisen posted:The strawman is strong in this one. the differences being one is on a tiny screen while the other will be on a huge screen with better HD, music, and stages is pretty good reason
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Astro7x posted:Let's just admit that there is not a release date that would have appeased this thread. Ah, I see you're starting to understand the true nature of the Games goon.
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MinibarMatchman posted:the differences being one is on a tiny screen while the other will be on a huge screen with better HD, music, and stages is pretty good reason The difference being that one is on a console people buy, and the other is on a dead console.
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Kevyn posted:I'd like to think Nintendo's marketing team isn't dumb enough to announce release dates to the general public in the form of fiscal years, but hahaha Again, I hope Nintendo isn't dumb enough to wait till after Christmas (and I don't think they are either), but just pointing out that if this game weren't absolutely critical for the Wii U having any chance of recovering, I think we'd probably interpret "Winter 2014" as very close to, or after Christmas. After all, aren't most Oct-Nov releases by most publishers listed as Fall 2014? Personally, my suspicion is they're pushing hard for pre-Christmas, but if the dev time takes longer than they expect, Winter 2014 is vague enough to push it to early 2015 without it actually being a delay. waffle fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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Install Windows posted:The difference being that one is on a console people buy, and the other is on a dead console. nobody is going to use the 3ds for tourneys and poo poo over the wiiu
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Apr 9, 2014 01:49
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Yo, I'm checking the deathwatch for Wii U like everyone else in this thread, but where the hell am I going to get my HD color fix when the drat thing finally croaks?
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MinibarMatchman posted:nobody is going to use the 3ds for tourneys and poo poo over the wiiu Ah yes, the much respected "pro" Smash community, silly Nintendo not thinking of their needs.
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MinibarMatchman posted:the differences being one is on a tiny screen while the other will be on a huge screen with better HD, music, and stages is pretty good reason Alteisen posted:Ah yes, the much respected "pro" Smash community, silly Nintendo not thinking of their needs.
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MinibarMatchman posted:nobody is going to use the 3ds for tourneys and poo poo over the wiiu Nobody is going to use the Wii U. "Tournament" players of smash bros games are also a tiny minority and their opinions are irrelevant.
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Alteisen posted:Ah yes, the much respected "pro" Smash community, silly Nintendo not thinking of their needs. I was more referencing the fact there's no way people will get together and huddle with their 3ds handhelds for social play, playing smash while yelling at your rear end in a top hat friends is half the fun and regardless of online play, I'd rather do that on a big screen
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MinibarMatchman posted:I was more referencing the fact there's no way people will get together and huddle with their 3ds handhelds for social play, playing smash while yelling at your rear end in a top hat friends is half the fun and regardless of online play, I'd rather do that on a big screen If all gamers were you, the WiiU would have more sales. Not all gamers are you.
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Apr 9, 2014 01:54
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MinibarMatchman posted:I was more referencing the fact there's no way people will get together and huddle with their 3ds handhelds for social play, playing smash while yelling at your rear end in a top hat friends is half the fun and regardless of online play, I'd rather do that on a big screen No one has a Wii U to huddle around.
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Astro Nut posted:If so, Nintendo would have to make a big marketing push out of playing Smash 'the way its meant to be', or some such, both to convince people who maybe haven't hopped onboard at all to skip straight to the Wii U version, but also those that already have the game to then go out and get it again. I really don't think people are going to be all that upset about double-dipping on this one. Aside from each version having all-unique stages and presumably game modes for both (the 3DS version is confirmed to be getting an exclusive, really, really cool looking  multiplayer retread of Adventure Mode from Melee), being able to play on a large screen makes a huge difference for a game like this.Also there's going to be almost half a year between releases, I don't think most people who have both consoles are going to be that upset by the time Smash U comes out. Not that there's many of them.
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I don't think anyone will be upset but I do think there will be a decent number of people who will buy it for 3DS, have some fun with it, and be done with it by the time the Wii U comes out (and I think this casual interest in the game describes many SSB players). Granted, these people wouldn't have bought a Wii U for SSB, but I do think Nintendo is risking the Wii U version having very unimpressive sales.
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I think at bare minimum the 3DS Smash will outsell the Wii U Smash 3 to 1.
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Quest For Glory II posted:I think at bare minimum the 3DS Smash will outsell the Wii U Smash 3 to 1. Given that the population with a 3DS is around 10 times greater at this point, I'd be more surprised if it didn't, regardless of anything Nintendo did or did not do. Also that Direct just reminded me how fantastic Sakurai is as a game developer. I wouldn't mind him replacing Miyamoto someday, or hell, even Iwata (except that he wouldn't be making games anymore). TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 02:27 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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Apr 9, 2014 02:09
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Isn'tk sakurai the one who ruined other m by insisting that they change Seamus to being more womanly, and all that other terrible sexist story poo poo? And insist on the whole missile system?
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KittyEmpress posted:Isn'tk sakurai the one who ruined other m by insisting that they change Seamus to being more womanly, and all that other terrible sexist story poo poo? And insist on the whole missile system? That's Sakamoto.
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KittyEmpress posted:Isn'tk sakurai the one who ruined other m by insisting that they change Seamus to being more womanly, and all that other terrible sexist story poo poo? And insist on the whole missile system? That's Sakamoto, a hack who has nothing to do with Smash Bros (aside from Samus looking the way she does now) . Sakurai made Kirby, and in the last two years he made Kid Icarus: Uprising, which was one of the best games Nintendo's had in the last 5 years and probably in the last 10.
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Oh man Kirby's return to dreamland was the best game I had on Wii. He shouls be in charge. Year of the pink blob for 2015, please.
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Quest For Glory II posted:I think at bare minimum the 3DS Smash will outsell the Wii U Smash 3 to 1. Yeah, no matter how much hype Smash builds I can't imagine anything that could possible happen that would bring sales for both versions anywhere close to parity. Even 3-1 seems optimistic. I won't say they'll do what they can, because Nintendo has made a lot of obvious mistakes with the Wii U, but it would be incredibly dumb for them to not use Smash as an opportunity to push consoles.
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Alteisen posted:The strawman is strong in this one. To me, a completely different set of stages between the two versions is more than enough reason to double-dip. Now, admittedly, I think it would have been a smarter decision for Nintendo to release the Wii U version before the 3DS version for sure. However, to say the differences between the two versions is "almost nil" when they're going to have different stages and different modes is pretty silly.
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Local multiplayer on tiny 3DS uncomfortable controller where everyone has to have one versus the WiiU version with full HD on a big screen is not even a comparison. The WiiU's own tepid numbers will eat into potential Smash 4 sales, but the 3DS version being out a few months earlier won't have any effect at all.
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greatn posted:Local multiplayer on tiny 3DS uncomfortable controller where everyone has to have one versus the WiiU version with full HD on a big screen is not even a comparison. "We don't need to buy you that system, you already have that game on the one you already have."
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Soul Glo posted:"We don't need to buy you that system, you already have that game on the one you already have." gently caress YOU DAD YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ANYTHING GOD!
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MinibarMatchman posted:I was more referencing the fact there's no way people will get together and huddle with their 3ds handhelds for social play, playing smash while yelling at your rear end in a top hat friends is half the fun and regardless of online play, I'd rather do that on a big screen Yeah, whoever heard of a portable Nintendo game having a large multiplayer following.  Absolutely unheard of.
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The 3DS version will make them the most money, so they release it first to maximize sales and reduce cannibalization. Pretty simple. Smash isn't going to save the Wii U, so why not make the decision that gives them the most money? The Wii U has already been written off as a loss. They just need to keep it floating long enough not to alienate their core fans, then replace it ASAP. As someone who doesn't own a Wii U, just a 3DS, I'm very tempted to get both because I really want this gorgeous game in HD with a real controller and probably more content. The only real shared content is the roster, they both have different stages and game modes. We also don't know what the cross-talk is between them yet. Bass Bottles fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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Neo Helbeast posted:I believe they are talking about the 4chan E3 rumored Zelda, TLOZ: Eternal Sunshine(I think that was what they called it). Supposedly based on the 1st half of the game in perpetual sunlight and the second half of the game in complete darkness. Supposedly inspired by Western RPGs and focuses heavily on exploration and isolation. So wait, it's Zelda Dark Souls?
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By the time Smash U comes out the game will have already been eviscerated by the competitive Smash community who will no doubt be livid over system changes and character balance. These people are awful but they'll also poison a lot of the discussion and hype surrounding the game, Nintendo's making a big mistake by not cashing in on blind nostalgia while they still have the chance.
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Equilibrium posted:By the time Smash U comes out the game will have already been eviscerated by the competitive Smash community who will no doubt be livid over system changes and character balance. These people are awful but they'll also poison a lot of the discussion and hype for the game, Nintendo's making a big mistake by not cashing in on blind nostalgia while they have the chance. Hey, hey, the competitive Smash community is literally impossible to please, and has already poisoned discussion of all future Smash games. There's no way for Nintendo to avoid that or release in a way that minimizes its impact.
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Thanks to the Direct showing off how awesome the 3DS version is, and it's exclusives extras it gets AND it's closer release date I don't even need to buy the Wii U version now. Ty Nintendo.
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quote:These people are awful but they'll also poison a lot of the discussion and hype for the game I'm pretty sure even a 9-year-old would recognize the complaints of a Pro Smash Bro and correctly label them as a crazy person.
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There will be exactly one SSB4 tournament and then the smash community will go back to Melee.
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Does anybody in this thread actually think they have no more features to announce about a game coming out in November or December?
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They probably won't talk about the Wii U version again until E3 where they'll dig into the differences some more, but it will only be undercut by them giving the day and date of the 3DS version in the same E3 Direct. Much like NSMBU, I expect it to sell to the majority of existing Wii U owners, so maybe a couple of million sold for the game (even NSMBU managed that), but Smash 3DS will probably sell on par with Mario Kart 7 (9 million).
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Alteisen posted:Ah yes, the much respected "pro" Smash community, silly Nintendo not thinking of their needs. I too think it's a good business decision to go out of my way to piss off the people who buy and play my games. note: I don't, and have never, played competitive smash bros icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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icantfindaname posted:I too think it's a good business decision to go out of my way to piss off the people who buy and play my games. It's hard to piss off nobody. Anyway the "hardcore" Smash community is a vanishingly small subset of people who buy Smash games.. the whole point of it is that it's a game designed for people who are not hardcore gamers.
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icantfindaname posted:I too think it's a good business decision to go out of my way to piss off the people who buy and play my games. Yeah except this is a vastly tiny of minority who aren't going to be happy no matter what you do so why waste the energy
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It looks like they've gone out of their way to please competitive gamers. They did several balance things like eliminating morphing characters or gliding that seem tailor made for the competitive crowd, added the ability to further customize balance within the game, added an online mode specifically for being competitive, eliminated tripping and other stuff. I think Namco knows a thing or two about balancing fighting games.
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