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California? California. e: Ah, hell, new page. gently caress, now I have to put a little effort in. I spent a few months in San Francisco as an intern in CS and it is UNBELIEVABLE how many people are just that kind of crazy. As an actual graduate-degree-holding AI researcher (and, before that part of my life, a LessWrongRobot), let me agree that Yudkowsky is insane. He has all these clever one-sentence rebuttals to being told that his work is meaningless by the AI research community (he has self-published journal articles. I mean, come on, guy.), but has failed to consider the most obvious one: he is working in the center of a cult and his work is actually meaningless outside the cult. Seconding the request for a LessWrong mock thread so that those of us who care about that can let you guys get back to TVTropes. SolTerrasa fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Apr 9, 2014 |
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SolTerrasa posted:California? California. If I knew as much as the rest of you about Yudkowsky's philosophy I'd consider starting it. Maybe Saeku, if he's interested?
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Apr 9, 2014 08:10
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The more I read LessWrong, the more I feel my brain cells committing suicide one by one. I'm almost curious to see how deep the rabbit hole goes. Do any of them even have a plan for how to make SolTerrasa posted:(he has self-published journal articles. I mean, come on, guy.) That is the single saddest, most pathetic sentence I have read all week. I almost feel sorry for him, but then he would probably correct that with another logic bomb and I'd lose a few more brain cells trying to parse his language.
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Apr 9, 2014 09:06
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I gave yudkowsky all my parents' money, I'll probably be one of the guys who torture you shitlords in robot hell.
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Apr 9, 2014 11:13
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Another thing I love is how these kinds of lunatics always jump straight to rape kill torture. I mean, you'd never see the god-AI threaten to wreck the economy or shut down infrastructure until we do as we're told. It's straight to TORTURE which is HORRIBLE like in SYRIA  Or to how it's is worse to get dust in your eye than being TORTURED FOR FIFTY YEARS  It's almost as though their emotional response to sex and violence is driving them rather than enlightened logic. Plus there's much more smug glee in defending atrocities as the truly rational option.
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Apr 9, 2014 11:51
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Hey, check this out: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/a_webby_for_tom_pike_and_co.php This can't be real, can it?
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Apr 9, 2014 13:53
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I'm curious, is there any overlap between LessWrong and those Dark Enlightenment psychos?
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Apr 9, 2014 16:37
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Penny Paper posted:Hey, check this out: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/a_webby_for_tom_pike_and_co.php How long before tropers start claiming credit for all that guy did? Sure, I have a bad feeling about this guy's hiring, but at least he's done something with enough merit to get noticed.
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Apr 9, 2014 16:59
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Swan Oat posted:I'm curious, is there any overlap between LessWrong and those Dark Enlightenment psychos? Only insofar as some neo-reactionaries want society to be ruled by an immortal and perfect philosopher-king AI. IIRC, the neo-reactionaries who showed up on LessWrong got booted out and made their own warren of inane sophistry called "MoreRight".
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Apr 9, 2014 17:17
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Wales Grey posted:Only insofar as some neo-reactionaries want society to be ruled by an immortal and perfect philosopher-king AI. IIRC, the neo-reactionaries who showed up on LessWrong got booted out and made their own warren of inane sophistry called "MoreRight".
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Apr 9, 2014 17:55
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Anime/Wild Mass Guessing posted:All anime takes place several million years into the future after a major cataclysm destroys all life forms larger than a cat (basically, the extinction of dinosaurs, but with humans). Another sentient species evolves from the aye-aye, and develops a society quite similar to our own. What we think is a stylistic rendering of homo sapiens is actually a realistic rendering of humans' successors. Anime producers and mangaka are actually a society of time travellers who have seen this new species for themselves.
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Some completely bugfuck tropers posted:That would explain the Over Nine Thousand quantities of erotic 'Hentai' from Japan (that includes Moe and Naughty Tentacles), and why Anime looks too Uncanny Valley. During the time of the Empire of Japan Anime wasn't so much popular. In fact, the Japanese instead raped massive numbers of Chinese people during WW2. After Japan lost the war the US stripped them off their imperial military, meaning they cannot rape foreigners anymore. Meanwhile, Geishas were expensive, and the middle-class don't want to spend so much money after Japan was nuked. The solution: make idealized portrayals of foreigners and Rape 'Em!!!! quote:Oh! That also explains all the But Not Too Foreign characters. First, idealize foreign characters. Second, rape them. Third, they get preagnent. Fourth, rape them while preagnant. Fifth, they give birth to half Japanese children. Sixth, rape them too (this step is Lolicon and Shotacon. Seventh, they grow to childbearing age. Eight, rape them again. Ninth, they get pregnant... All while still raping more idealized foreigners on the side. 
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Apr 9, 2014 20:32
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Hmm. An intriguing position, to be sure, but what of the aye-aye's famously elongated middle finger? This may just be a consequence of my limited experience with anime, but I fail to see the expected manifestation of this trait. On the other hand, might not the bushbaby function acceptably in lieu of the aye-aye in this hypothesis? This warrants further thought.
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Apr 9, 2014 20:35
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 I really wish I could say more but goddamn, those posts.
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Apr 9, 2014 20:37
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What about the animes that don't have rape in them?
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Apr 9, 2014 20:43
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Maremidon posted:It's closer than you'd think. Konkvistador and Mike Annisimov were big posters on LW and they didn't get chased out so much as get tired of being contradicted. Less Wrong poster Yvain made an anti-reactionary FAQ to justify not being one. They're a minority, but a loud and respected one I guess I'm just constantly surprised at how regressive futurists/utopian idealists are. You'd think that a group that's so dedicated to progress would do better than fetishize some of the worst parts of the past.  edit: what the gently caress am i reading
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Apr 9, 2014 20:48
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Leofish posted:What about the animes that don't have rape in them? " I'm not making this poo poo up posted:Anime will replace real females as sex slaves, or substitutes for lovers.
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Apr 9, 2014 20:49
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Soulcleaver posted:Oh please, we know such a thing doesn't exist.
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Apr 9, 2014 20:59
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That first one is clearly a joke taking the piss out of anime. Those replies, though... Jesus Christ. 
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Apr 9, 2014 21:03
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Meta example of TVTropes being awful: the last two or three properties I looked up on TVT for this thread have wound up reinvigorating my desire to watch/play whatever it is. Figure that The Simpsons would have some  stuff, but I got 1/3rd the way through the page and decided to play Simpsons Hit & Run while watching my old DVDs.
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Apr 9, 2014 21:05
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To be fair, Hit and Run was a legitimately good game for its' time (sure as gently caress better than the one that came before it, anyhow).
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Apr 9, 2014 21:07
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Leofish posted:What about the animes that don't have rape in them? That's true, despite its unfair reputation not all anime is about rape. For example, when I was a kid I really liked Pokemon- WMG: Pokemon: Pokemon Anime Subpage posted:Cilan raped Burgundy. WMG: Pokemon: Pokemon Anime Subpage: Ash's Father Sub-Subpage why do you need so many nested pages posted:I can see Giovanni as a Missing Parent with a tint of Rape as Drama. Delia had him when she was 18 from what I understand... Er, I guess I meant Yu-Gi-Oh? WMG: Yu-Gi-Oh posted:During Marik's tombkeeper's initiation, which was traumatic enough to complete the separation of Marik and his hatred, Marik's father didn't just carve magical hieroglyphics into Marik's back while everybody watched; Marik's father also raped Marik WMG: Yu-Gi-Oh posted:Another thing is that, in some ancient cultures, if a man wanted a woman to marry him, and she was unwilling, he would just rape her. This would allow him to "claim" her as his wife, since no one else would want her. Why the hell would Marik's mother have married a man like her husband, unless she was forced to? Well then. What else am I pretty sure didn't have rape in it? Death Note? WMG: Death Note: L And Light subpage posted:Light is a child of rape or kidnapping. Either that or he dyes his hair. JFC learn how recessive alleles work you loving lunatics, stop making rape your first response to everything. The good news is that at least Sailor Moon doesn't have any rapes in it! ...just "Mind Rape" and one character "making her think she was going to get raped at one point" and some very overt rape overtones. Despite complaining constantly about the perception that all anime is about rape, tropers seem pretty convinced that all anime is about rape. In short, Soulcleaver posted:Oh please, we know such a thing doesn't exist.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:Another thing is that, in some ancient cultures, if a man wanted a woman to marry him, and she was unwilling, he would just rape her. This would allow him to "claim" her as his wife, since no one else would want her. 
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Apr 9, 2014 23:42
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Out of curiosity I looked up the trope page for Dominic Deegan and it is gigantic.
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what the gently caress am I looking at right now? 
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Austrian mook posted:what the gently caress am I looking at right now? Dominic Deegan rape scene. Because a distressed woman who saw her parents die needs to be raped to be saved.
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One of the Terrible Webcomics thread's favourite things, along with loss.jpg. Basically, some far-too up-himself webcomic authour thought to himself: Hmm. Plenty of fiction has heroic criminals, like killers and thieves... why not a rapist? Of course, there's have to be some sort of extenuating circumstances so he's still a hero, like how Robin Hood gives to the poor, and Dexter only kills other killers... this will take all my authourial skill to justify... Of course! Bad men will kill them both if he doesn't! And then she can forgive him and they fall in love.
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Elfface posted:One of the Terrible Webcomics thread's favourite things, along with loss.jpg. So does he only rape people who deserve it?
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Elfface posted:One of the Terrible Webcomics thread's favourite things, along with loss.jpg. Even better, she falls in love with her rapist because he reminds her of her dad 
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Elfface posted:One of the Terrible Webcomics thread's favourite things, along with loss.jpg. Dear lord. Webcomics. gently caress.
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Apr 10, 2014 11:43
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Ahahahaha fuckin' Dominic Deegan's Adventures of the Sexy Rapist.
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Testekill posted:So does he only rape people who deserve it? It gets even worse when you see the cast react. The only time people call Rapeman out it's because a demon is possessing them. A character we're supposed to think is kind gets drunk and makes jokes to the woman about that time she got raped. This is framed to look cheeky and not at all monstrous.
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Apr 10, 2014 14:59
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Jesus, that webcomic reminds me of some dude who argued that the one story in the Bible where the Israelites take home a bunch of teenage girls for brides wasn't rape 
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Jesus, that webcomic reminds me of some dude who argued that the one story in the Bible where the Israelites take home a bunch of teenage girls for brides wasn't rape There's a lot of weird rapey stuff in the bible, I'm surprised that the Tropers don't love it.
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Austrian mook posted:There's a lot of weird rapey stuff in the bible, I'm surprised that the Tropers don't love it. but the bible is also religious and tropers are usually internet atheists
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corn in the bible posted:but the bible is also religious and tropers are usually internet atheists The great paradox of our time.
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corn in the bible posted:but the bible is long and also a book Fixed that for you
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Is there an anime version of the bible, and does it have a TvTropes page?
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Austrian mook posted:Is there an anime version of the bible, and does it have a TvTropes page? Something like that.
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http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllLoveIsUnrequited "While (thankfully) not always the case, this trope is often true of Real Life. As a rule of thumb, people tend to be most attracted to people who are "out of their league": more attractive or talented or popular than themselves. As a result, almost everyone has had a lot more experience with unrequited crushes, both as the crusher and the crushee, than with actual successful relationships. Very often happens amongst taken best friends."
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