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Speaking of our good friend W:Talking Points Memo" posted:Former President George W. Bush says people will be able to look at his newly unveiled paintings of world leaders -- including Russian President Vladimir Putin and Afghan President Hamid Karzai -- and sense the "feeling" he got about about each of them through his "personal diplomacy." Reminder: this guy was President for eight years.
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skaboomizzy posted:Speaking of our good friend W: Its amazing what being handed powerful connections and ton of money can do for your career prospects.
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Apr 10, 2014 08:13
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quote:Many photos were taken from the subject's Wikipedia entry. Bush based his paintings on the literally first-to-surface, easiest-to-find photos of his subjects. Is this meaningful in any way? If he had one, it would mean Bush's studio assistant is very, very lazy. But in all his discussion of it, Bush's painting practice appears to be a solitary one. He apparently did not tap the enormous archive of photos, taken by the professionals who followed him every day for eight years, which are contained in his giant library. Instead, it seems, he Googled the world leaders he made such impactful relationships with himself, and took the first straight-on headshot he saw. This is a colossal and absolutely typical case of seeing what you want to see in Bush. Bush has been painting for a couple of years. He has not mastered painting technique, as I'm sure he'd be the first to tell you.  These are two completely different images. Bush is an actual painter in that he interprets what he sees. Could somebody say with a straight face that he didn't add tons of meaning to the image? Who loving cares if he used the first GIS result? Guess what those tend to be pretty good images of world leaders. It reminds me of that Oliver Sacks essay about the autistic kid (uh this may or may not be helping my argument) who drew pictures based on photographs, but they were transformed and enlivened. Through painting, Bush has embarked on a journey of discovery to the inner self. There he'll learn to cast off the final traces of his masterfully affected Texan bohunk persona and emerge, as if from fire, reborn, polished, dominant. He'll speak at the 2016 convention and completely put every other speaker in the shade, invigorating a new base of 22-year-old war-lusting racists and preparing them for four years of opposition to an incumbent Hillary.
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Apr 10, 2014 09:02
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Using a picture as basis for painting is pretty commonplace these days. It's not like Bush traced the pictures or anything. I don't see the problem.
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Apr 10, 2014 09:07
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SedanChair posted:It reminds me of that Oliver Sacks essay about the autistic kid (uh this may or may not be helping my argument) who drew pictures based on photographs, but they were transformed and enlivened. Through painting, Bush has embarked on a journey of discovery to the inner self. There he'll learn to cast off the final traces of his masterfully affected Texan bohunk persona and emerge, as if from fire, reborn, polished, dominant. He'll speak at the 2016 convention and completely put every other speaker in the shade, invigorating a new base of 22-year-old war-lusting racists and preparing them for four years of opposition to an incumbent Hillary.
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Apr 10, 2014 09:14
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Samurai Sanders posted:A scary part of me wants to see this happen. I don't know why. The longing to hasten Armageddon so you can see it with your own eyes. It's inherent on some level in every human being.
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Apr 10, 2014 09:31
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SedanChair posted:This is a colossal and absolutely typical case of seeing what you want to see in Bush. Bush has been painting for a couple of years. He has not mastered painting technique, as I'm sure he'd be the first to tell you. If this happened I would be in awe of its white hot glory.
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Apr 10, 2014 09:35
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cafel posted:The longing to hasten Armageddon so you can see it with your own eyes. It's inherent on some level in every human being.
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Apr 10, 2014 09:35
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JT Jag posted:Using a picture as basis for painting is pretty commonplace these days. It's not like Bush traced the pictures or anything. I don't see the problem. A former world leader did paintings of other world leaders, based on whatever photos Google and Wikipedia gave him. It's not immoral or anything, just funny.
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Apr 10, 2014 10:17
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You know who else was a failed painter? As for Saddam, it's easy to forget that his targets of Iran and Kuwait were sanctioned by the US... until they weren't. I'm sure everyone is glad that the current US puppet isn't invading other countries right now, but as soon as he's told to... Assepoester fucked around with this message at 10:35 on Apr 10, 2014 |
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Apr 10, 2014 10:33
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Cardboard Box A posted:You know who else was a failed painter? We shouldn't worry until Bush decides to write a political book.
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Apr 10, 2014 10:39
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Someone is planning a big Libertarian rally in D.C. on May Day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-QvSgyWA18 It'll be interesting to find out which of the hundred or so Koch groups is financing this.  edit: Ha! It's CEI. Joementum fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Apr 10, 2014 |
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Apr 10, 2014 12:42
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Doctor Spaceman posted:A former world leader did paintings of other world leaders, based on whatever photos Google and Wikipedia gave him. Yeah I mean would everyone else prefer Bush to go around shooting people in the face?
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Apr 10, 2014 13:41
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No that's Cheney.
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Apr 10, 2014 13:52
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Joementum posted:Someone is planning a big Libertarian rally in D.C. on May Day. May Day? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrRBDMeTUjE
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Apr 10, 2014 13:54
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:May Day? Yeah, I can't decide if they scheduled it for that day specifically to piss off the left or because it's to protest the Obama administration's crackdown on payday lenders and they're going for a payday / May Day rhyme thing. Probably both. Also, loving  at CEI scheduling a rally to protest the government cracking down on payday lender abuse.
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Apr 10, 2014 14:07
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Joementum posted:Yeah, I can't decide if they scheduled it for that day specifically to piss off the left or because it's to protest the Obama administration's crackdown on payday lenders and they're going for a payday / May Day rhyme thing. Probably both. Libertarians tend to equate May Day with socialism, and complain about how many lives "socialism" has taken.
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Apr 10, 2014 14:19
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http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/08/rich-people-rule/ Study proves what we all suspected - the opinions of regular people have negligible impact on policy outcomes while the opinions of the rich and connected drive policy outcomes. Basically, if a policy has very broad popular support, but elites are apathetic to it the policy has at best a 30% chance of happening. If a policy has elite support and is opposed by broad popular support it still has a 50% chance of happening.
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Apr 10, 2014 14:43
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Joementum posted:Someone is planning a big Libertarian rally in D.C. on May Day. What sort of credulous rube takes these things seriously? This video is unabashed propaganda, like almost self-parody.
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Apr 10, 2014 14:51
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Stew Man Chew posted:What sort of credulous rube takes these things seriously? This video is unabashed propaganda, like almost self-parody. Have you talked to a Libertarian in person about the Federal Reserve?
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Apr 10, 2014 14:57
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Cheekio posted:Have you talked to a Libertarian in person about the Federal Reserve? Just let me live in my little fantasy world full of people who think critically 
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Apr 10, 2014 15:00
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Joementum posted:Mitch McConnell posed a query to the facebooks. To put this into perspective I live in Kentucky and was at the lab of UK's med center the other week when one of his "Protect you from OBAMACARE" ads popped up on the TV. The reaction from the people sitting in the waiting room was rather unkind.
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Apr 10, 2014 15:02
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I realize that informal Facebook polls aren't exactly a good expression of the zeitgeist but after how hard they've backfired on Cruz and McConnell, November 4th has gotten a little brighter in my mind.
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Apr 10, 2014 15:08
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Think equal pay for men and women is a good thing? Well silly lib, the Wall Street Journal is here to correct your so dumb and god damned crazy opinions. It turns out equal pay will trigger the MARRIAGE PENALTY on your taxes http://live.wsj.com/video/taxes-who...F8-9357FC6CB6F1
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Apr 10, 2014 15:09
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Fried Chicken posted:http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/04/08/rich-people-rule/ We all need to save this quote for the next time shrike82 or his alt asdf32 try to go on about money not influencing elections.
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Apr 10, 2014 15:23
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Joementum posted:Someone is planning a big Libertarian rally in D.C. on May Day. Man, that's some tasty propaganda right there. Can you feel the self-delusion?
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Apr 10, 2014 15:28
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Has anyone of these rich guy funded marches ever gotten a decent amount of people? I remember the hobby-lobby one was apparently dwarfed by the pro-choice people that came to counter protest.
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Apr 10, 2014 15:30
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Joementum posted:Someone is planning a big Libertarian rally in D.C. on May Day. The amount of views this video has is precious.
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Apr 10, 2014 15:33
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Taerkar posted:To put this into perspective I live in Kentucky and was at the lab of UK's med center the other week when one of his "Protect you from OBAMACARE" ads popped up on the TV. The reaction from the people sitting in the waiting room was rather unkind. That's Lexington though. Lexington and Louisville alone can't win the state, just ask Dr Mongiardo.
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Apr 10, 2014 15:36
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The UK hospital gets a lot of people from the surrounding areas. For many people in central and eastern KY, it's the closest place to get any serious labwork/medical care done.
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Apr 10, 2014 15:40
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skaboomizzy posted:Speaking of our good friend W: This is a pretty bizarre gotcha. A-hah, Mr. Bush, you didn't paint this portrait of a dude you met years ago purely from your memory, you used a reference! What sort of amateur painter are you, you fraud! Truly his greatest crime, and not a thing that tons of artists might do. I am sad that we didn't get to live in the world where Newt Gingrich became a zookeeper and Bush became an artist. I wonder how many lovely politicians we could be spared if they'd just managed to get roped into something they loved instead.
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Apr 10, 2014 15:41
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By the way I've been meaning to post this for a month but keep forgetting. So state and local authorities offer all sorts of goodies to companies to attract jobs and incentivize growth and development. (Feds do it as well on a larger scale). All totaled, state and local benefits add up to 110 billion a year. Koch industries collects 88 billion of that. Here's is the study http://www.goodjobsfirst.org/subsidizingthecorporateonepercent Here is a summary http://inthesetimes.com/article/16362/the_real_welfare_queens 1 single corporation collects 80% of all the state and local incentives. A corporation owned by people who inherited their wealth, grew it by gobbling up 80% of the government handouts, and spend that wealth trying to punish the poor for getting help while pushing for more government handouts for themselves. Aerosmith had it right
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Apr 10, 2014 15:42
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quote:Sen. Angus King (I-ME) is floating siding with Republicans after the midterm elections. Maine is really annoying, Obama can win by 16 but they vote in people like LePage, King, and Collins.
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Apr 10, 2014 15:42
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Amphion posted:Maine is really annoying, Obama can win by 16 but they vote in people like LePage, King, and Collins. "If it's 50-50 and the Republicans can offer me a sweet committee chair position..."
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Apr 10, 2014 15:55
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So hey, tapping into our talk of W, Iraq, and how magically the next Republican won't draw from the same pool of idiots to staff things http://m.washingtonpost.com/politic...cb08_story.html Donald Rumsfeld has been meeting with the 2016 candidates looking for his support and position as an advisor to lend them credibility and will be meeting with Ted Cruz next. Cruz already hired Rummy's aide Victoria Coates as his national security advisor But hey, next time it will be different because candidate X is competent, unlike W, right?
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Apr 10, 2014 15:58
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If you're looking at Iraq from the right angle (as in who got richer and not who was horrible maimed or killed) it was a massive success. I don't see why Republicans would want to not re-enact that if they scam their way back into office.
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Apr 10, 2014 16:02
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Fried Chicken posted:But hey, next time it will be different because candidate X is competent, unlike W, right? The article also mentions Kissinger, Rice, and Haass. It's like the dream team of bad foreign policy.
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Apr 10, 2014 16:03
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Fried Chicken posted:By the way I've been meaning to post this for a month but keep forgetting. According to those links, Koch collects $88 million, not billion. So it's merely outrageous rather than utterly insane. haveblue fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Apr 10, 2014 |
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Apr 10, 2014 16:07
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Swan Oat posted:The amount of views this video has is precious. I hope the Koch krew look at how all the reference links to the video are from SA and send a paid hack to come shill on the forums.
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Apr 10, 2014 16:18
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Radish posted:If you're looking at Iraq from the right angle (as in who got richer and not who was horrible maimed or killed) it was a massive success. I don't see why Republicans would want to not re-enact that if they scam their way back into office. Realistically the only one who got rich were the contractors. Iraq's oil industry is still in shambles since no one wants to send oil engineers into a country where they're likely to get killed or kidnapped.
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