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quote:and it was literally deus ex machina that did him in. Not really. Alice set him up by yelling for Cyrus to put the water in the well, knowing that Jafar would stop the water by "taking" it. It doesn't really count as deus ex machina when a character knowingly maneuvers another character into getting squished by the deux.
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Why would you go back to the real world when you can A. Stay in Wonderland, or B. Go back to the real world, but in the future (where the Knave is from)? It just seemed like such a boring choice. But otherwise a good ending to a show that was actually pretty decent despite all its flaws.
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Apr 6, 2014 18:25
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I don't know, Wonderland seems like a pretty backwards and hellish place to live. 19th century England isn't much better, but that's where her family is (and they look rich as poo poo), so if you're going to get knocked up and raise a kid, you might as well do it there.
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Apr 6, 2014 18:48
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Irish Joe posted:I don't know, Wonderland seems like a pretty backwards and hellish place to live. 19th century England isn't much better, but that's where her family is (and they look rich as poo poo), so if you're going to get knocked up and raise a kid, you might as well do it there. Also, Alice didn't want to escape her life and family. She wanted to be believed and accepted by them as someone who wasn't a depressed lunatic. She got that in the end so she's staying in her home world. For my part, I'd be okay with her coming to the main show, perhaps after some kind of H. G. Wells Martian invasion of her world.
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Apr 6, 2014 19:03
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Just caught up on Wonderland. What I don't get is if Jafar's magic/breaking the laws of magic were undone by the genies' curse being broken, then why wasn't Imara's as well? Basically, if Anastasia died when the curse was broken, then why didn't Cyrus die too? They were both brought back to life using the same magic.
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Apr 7, 2014 02:12
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My reading of that scene was that Cyrus hadn't actually died yet.
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Apr 7, 2014 02:18
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Oh, I suppose that could be. She just healed his wound. That would explain why the rabbit's wife was getting ready to heal him. Thanks.
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Apr 7, 2014 02:19
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Really enjoyed the Wonderland finale. Again, very refreshing to have a clear and coherent season with no irritating loose ends. Poor Jabberwockie though. As for OUAT, Zelena is stealing the show. Really enjoyed her flashback and enslavement of the Wizard. I did find it somewhat hilarious how casually Belle was sitting during the cafe scene. Hook however, should be wearing less. Regina's distaste for the Charmings is charming.
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Apr 7, 2014 09:03
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Surprised to see if there are supposed to be any consequences of this plot or Wonderlands, since I'm guessing it wasn't an accident that both Wonderland and the second half of this season of OUAT both feature orphaned children growing up to be magicians to break the laws of magic. Not that I'm complaining, just curious if there was more to go with if Wonderland got either extra episodes or renewed and how that would affect OUAT.
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Apr 8, 2014 02:37
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Huh, so the Wicked Witch's master plan is ... the exact same plan as Jafar's? Do the writers of the two show's talk to each other?
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Apr 8, 2014 04:54
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I liked Rumple's reason for not picking Zelena.
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Apr 8, 2014 06:02
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bamhand posted:Huh, so the Wicked Witch's master plan is ... the exact same plan as Jafar's? Do the writers of the two show's talk to each other? The root of all evil is Daddy issues.
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Apr 8, 2014 12:57
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Didn't Rumple and Cora have some kind of relationship? Maybe he's the father of the wicked witch.
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Apr 8, 2014 14:53
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That would be such a weird turn of his character given how much he loved his son, both before and after becoming the Dark One.
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Apr 8, 2014 15:17
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I want to see more Oz and less family angst, which has now been rehashed like a million times on the show. If the show roughly follows some of the book series, are the other witches in Oz sisters of the Wicked witch? The show mentioned briefly that the scarecrow was the father of Zelina, which is kinda... weird. So all the Dorothy stuff has already happened?
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Apr 8, 2014 21:59
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Just got done binging through these shows over the past couple weeks. I love the mishmash of Disney properties with some added edge. Definitely nthing the requests for further spinoff series now that Wonderland is done. Oz is a pretty obvious choice, but The Land without Color would be awesome since it's the most likely place to find Dracula, and I would love to see Dracula gently caress poo poo up in the OUAT multiverse.
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Apr 9, 2014 06:15
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spronk posted:The show mentioned briefly that the scarecrow was the father of Zelina, which is kinda... weird. So all the Dorothy stuff has already happened? Must have missed that completely, when was that implied?
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Apr 9, 2014 09:14
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Ela posted:Must have missed that completely, when was that implied? The only scarecrow reference I remember was Regina joking that Zelina had slept with him.
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Apr 9, 2014 09:18
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Yeah, the scarecrow comment seemed like a throwaway insult, not an actual fact about anything.
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Apr 10, 2014 01:13
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ShakeZula posted:The only scarecrow reference I remember was Regina joking that Zelina had slept with him. Isn't that a thing from Wicked, as well? That the Wicked Witch has some relationship with the Scarecrow? Somehow I missed the entire 2000's and never saw it.
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Apr 10, 2014 01:32
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Xealot posted:Isn't that a thing from Wicked, as well? That the Wicked Witch has some relationship with the Scarecrow? Somehow I missed the entire 2000's and never saw it. Yeah, basically. He turns into the scarecrow in the musical, though it's a bit more ambiguous in the book.
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Apr 10, 2014 01:50
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ShakeZula posted:The only scarecrow reference I remember was Regina joking that Zelina had slept with him. Yeah i only remember this, nothing about Scarecrow daddy. Rumple is a more likely candidate, and i doubt he can be both Rumple and Scarecrow!
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Apr 10, 2014 09:28
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Ela posted:Yeah i only remember this, nothing about Scarecrow daddy. Well he's already the Beast and the Crocodile. 
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Apr 10, 2014 09:59
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KasioDiscoRock posted:Yeah, the scarecrow comment seemed like a throwaway insult, not an actual fact about anything. I was all like, "heh, a 'stuffed shirt' joke". I don't think either the actual Scarecrow or Rumple is the father, and I don't think Rumple can be the scarecrow since she already mentioned getting courage from David and having Rumple's brain. Now all she needs is a heart and they don't seem to be in short supply on this show.
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Apr 10, 2014 15:12
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If she wants Reginas but couldn't get it, who's her second target? Or do we think she's just gonna track it down anyway. Not that i think she'll be able to, Regina is far smarter.
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Apr 10, 2014 16:12
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Ela posted:Or do we think she's just gonna track it down anyway. Not that i think she'll be able to, Regina is far smarter.
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Apr 10, 2014 18:43
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Ela posted:If she wants Reginas but couldn't get it, who's her second target? Henry, for some reason. Not a single arc can elapse on this show without someone trying to do something or another to Henry.
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Apr 10, 2014 19:34
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Well yeah if you need a heart what better heart to grab than the HEART OF THE TRUEST BELIEVER?
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Apr 10, 2014 23:15
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Senerio posted:Well yeah if you need a heart what better heart to grab than the HEART OF THE TRUEST BELIEVER? I don't know if it's still in effect, but as I recall Regina put a protection spell on Henry that prevents his heart from being taken from him. Not even Pan was able to remove it and Pan was more powerful than Rumple, who is more than likely more powerful than Zelena.
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Apr 10, 2014 23:29
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nelson posted:Didn't Rumple and Cora have some kind of relationship? Maybe he's the father of the wicked witch. I thought Rumple and Cora had a relationship right before Cora became queen and had Regina. Regina would the more likely candidate of being Rumple's daughter. Plus it makes everything even more incestuous.
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Apr 11, 2014 01:53
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Even if Regina didn't put the protection spell on him, Henry's not the truest believer anymore since he lost his memory. I like how Emma called Hook out for wearing eyeliner. E: also, Regina could have totally yanked out Zelena's heart when they were up close and personal in the clock tower but then what would we do for the rest of the season?
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Apr 11, 2014 06:41
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Gotta say, I really love the look of this Oz. I thought the shot of the Emerald City and the Wizard's chamber looked fantastic - a lot better than the enchanted forest or Wonderland usually do. We definitely need to see more Oz.
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Apr 11, 2014 06:49
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I have to say, if the show gets canceled I don't think I'll be that bummed about it. This last arc has been terrible.
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Apr 13, 2014 20:55
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I'm be bummed because I've enjoyed it quite a bit.
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Apr 13, 2014 20:59
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So why didn't Hook just say that Zelena has cursed him to the Charmings? I like Hook (Well, more the actor PLAYING Hook), but I thought that was a stupid turn. It was great to see Ariel again (probably for the last time), but even better to see it was all a ruse. Illegal driving with the Charmings was entertaining too. I was hoping they'd mow down some characters.
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Apr 14, 2014 02:37
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Zelena mentioned how she had spies everywhere, and I don't think that Hook knows about the protection spell, so I'm assuming he believes that he says "Cursed" and BOOM Green Puff of Smoke dead Charming dead Snow dead Henry.
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Apr 14, 2014 05:22
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Dazerbeams posted:I thought Rumple and Cora had a relationship right before Cora became queen and had Regina. Regina would the more likely candidate of being Rumple's daughter. Plus it makes everything even more incestuous. It was implied that the relationship ended before the relationship got too personal (by Cora ripping out her own heart).
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Apr 14, 2014 19:42
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Well, it's on Cora's (heartless) word that she didn't have a child from the union. Although if Rumple had a right to that kid, it probably should've come up during the training montage. When she was turning green and all. The little test he did with her hair and his spit was ostensibly "can you do magic" not a paternity check.
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Andrew_1985 posted:It was great to see Ariel again (probably for the last time), but even better to see it was all a ruse. I loved Regina's reaction to Ariel: "That fish is in Storybrook?" Regina absolutely killed it this week despite barely being in the episode.
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Holy poo poo, Emma's on "House."  (Just watched an episode for the first time.)
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