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wikipe tama posted:I haven't played these since platinum but i'm kind of curious. Do people even try to collect em all anymore There's a service where you can pay 5 bucks a year to have an extra 3000 pokemon worth of storage and people use this to assemble an actual living pokedex, one of each pokemon stored away so that the next time they release a game they can transfer in all of their stored pokemon and mostly complete the pokedex. I imagine it's probably going to go a step further now that breeding can be as structured as it is and we're going to have the first dude with a full living pokedex of 6IV pokemon. Someone is going to do it, I just know it.
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Azzents posted:For a while now most attacks in the anime consist of some body part glowing...And that's it, it just glows and hurts. Yeah, every single move, no matter how mundane, has to glow for years now. I don't know if the animators think it looks good or if it just saves on costs, but we've got mysterious white light and miniature explosions happen all over the place in every fight. I'm not saying it can't look good, but it just ridiculous long ago. VVVEdit: They could go the Iron Tail route and make the claw turn metallic gray. Geostomp fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Apr 13, 2014 |
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Apr 13, 2014 23:10
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Geostomp posted:Yeah, every single move, no matter how mundane, has to glow for years now. I don't know if the animators think it looks good or if it just saves on costs, but we've got mysterious white light shines all over the place in every fight. It's slightly more visually interesting than having the trainer yell 'Metal Claw!' and then Scizor just bops a guy with his fist since it's already a metal claw.
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Countblanc posted:The vast majority of people are saying a ban is a bad idea, or at least that it should be a complex ban that's like "no more than two passers per team". It seems disingenuous to copy some random dudes lovely message and be like "lol stupid smogon" I also agree with pretty much every ban they did prior to SwagPlay; Funbro is a retarded battle over who has more time to waste, Blaziken can rip through teams easily, then pass the Speed Boosts to someone else to continue the rampage, facing Mega-Gengar and Mega-Khan on Wireless was/is completely aggravating, and Genesect is an absolute bastard just from the U-Turn version I faced (I'm honestly not sure why banning him was contentious). Mega-Lucario isn't hard for the team I use, but I can still see why he was banned; not everyone has four mons on their team who can easily gently caress him over. The SwagPlay ban was the first ban over a strategy, not an overpowered mon, with the reason for the ban boiling down to "it's really loving annoying". That's the big difference to me; I don't actually oppose the ban (SwagPlay is annoying as gently caress) but the Baton Pass thing is another example of going after a strategy because you hate playing against it, not because it's overpowered. TheSpiritFox posted:I imagine it's probably going to go a step further now that breeding can be as structured as it is and we're going to have the first dude with a full living pokedex of 6IV pokemon. Someone is going to do it, I just know it. 
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Apr 13, 2014 23:13
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Geostomp posted:Yeah, every single move, no matter how mundane, has to glow for years now. I don't know if the animators think it looks good or if it just saves on costs, but we've got mysterious white light and miniature explosions happen all over the place in every fight. I'm not saying it can't look good, but it just ridiculous long ago. It's likely a cost issue, or rather it being easier to have a glowing hand rather than animate a mon growing sharper claws for the metal claw example.
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TheSpiritFox posted:I imagine it's probably going to go a step further now that breeding can be as structured as it is and we're going to have the first dude with a full living pokedex of 6IV pokemon. Someone is going to do it, I just know it. With egg moves for breeding; drat that would be a crazy feat.
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Apr 13, 2014 23:27
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Azzents posted:It's likely a cost issue, or rather it being easier to have a glowing hand rather than animate a mon growing sharper claws for the metal claw example. Oh, it's gotten dumber than just glowing cg crap and energy balls. Rock slide summons boulders from nothing to drop on the opponent, stone edge makes little CG rocks circle around the pokemon to fire at the enemy.
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Night Blade posted:Oh, it's gotten dumber than just glowing cg crap and energy balls. Rock slide summons boulders from nothing to drop on the opponent, stone edge makes little CG rocks circle around the pokemon to fire at the enemy. Those don't really bug me. How else would you get tonnes of rock into a stadium as needed? They're better than the days when Rock Throw was just Onix slamming someone with its tail or Geodude tackling someone. What bugs me is stuff like Tackle leaving a glowing trail or Pound lighting up or Peck growing into a glowing cone. Geostomp fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Apr 13, 2014 |
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I am Reverend posted:Woah I don't know how those sperglords are gonna be able to handle getting owned so hard. I want this embroidered on my posting gloves.
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fade5 posted:The SwagPlay ban was the first ban over a strategy, not an overpowered mon, with the reason for the ban boiling down to "it's really loving annoying". That's the big difference to me; I don't actually oppose the ban (SwagPlay is annoying as gently caress) but the Baton Pass thing is another example of going after a strategy because you hate playing against it, not because it's overpowered. Well, there was Drizzle+Swift Swim in Gen V. And I'm pretty sure they did ban ingrain+baton pass Smeargle (I think that was the combo) in an earlier gen because of full baton pass teams (they could just do that again couldn't they?). Granted Baton Pass had the ability to pass trapping moves like Mean Look back then.
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Toraen posted:Well, there was Drizzle+Swift Swim in Gen V. And I'm pretty sure they did ban ingrain+baton pass Smeargle (I think that was the combo) in an earlier gen because of full baton pass teams (they could just do that again couldn't they?). Granted Baton Pass had the ability to pass trapping moves like Mean Look back then. Why did they ban Drizzle+Swift Swim 
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Toraen posted:Well, there was Drizzle+Swift Swim in Gen V. And I'm pretty sure they did ban ingrain+baton pass Smeargle (I think that was the combo) in an earlier gen because of full baton pass teams (they could just do that again couldn't they?). Granted Baton Pass had the ability to pass trapping moves like Mean Look back then. Haquer posted:Why did they ban Drizzle+Swift Swim Someone else can explain in more detail, but the gist is that under Drizzle you're facing rain boosted water attacks+Swift Swimmers+neutered fire moves+perfectly accurate Thunders and Hurricanes+HydraRest+Dry Skin/Rain Dish stalling; it is absolute hell to face unless you're using Rain yourself. The ingrain+baton pass Smeargle was really weird since it was a Gen 3 ban that happened in March 2011; B/W were released that same month. Whether that ban was justified or not, it just seems kind of pointless; who the hell is still going to play a competitive game in Gen 3 aside from maybe nostalgia? fade5 fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Apr 14, 2014 |
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With all these bans I wonder if we'll get to the point where Trick Room is banned as well.
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The conclusion I'm drawing here is not that Smogon is dumb babies, but rather OU is dumb babies.
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LEGO Genetics posted:With all these bans I wonder if we'll get to the point where Trick Room is banned as well. Trick Room is basically a weather effect with no Ability to bring it (and it also sucks). It's not going to get banned. It helps that some of the higher-ups actually really like it as a concept, too.
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Come to think of it, why ISN'T there any ability that generates a trick room upon entering the battlefield?
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Ignite Memories posted:Come to think of it, why ISN'T there any ability that generates a trick room upon entering the battlefield? Because that would be insane for doubles. It's the same reason we'll never get a damp/heat rock equivalent for trick room either.
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Raserys posted:The conclusion I'm drawing here is not that Smogon is dumb babies, but rather OU is dumb babies. The broad principle behind OU is that it should be as wide-open a metagame as possible and it does a pretty good job of it. When a pokemon or strategy is too centralized it gets sent to Ubers (or for evasion stuff, banned). Seriously, most of the bans are pretty good ideas. Like, the reasoning for Gengarite getting sent to ubers: quote:It is a Pokemon that allows teams to, with near 100% probability, remove specific counters or threats and open the way for an easy victory. This capability is especially pronounced against defensive teams, and to some extent any kind of team relying on slow Pokemons, to the point that the Council believes that Mega Gengar is stifling the development of defensive teams overall. Note, we don't necessarily mean just stall teams (though these are affected significantly), but defensive teams in general. This overall detriment to defensive teams (remember, not just stall) is considered a pronounced negative for the metagame's development (hence why we're not waiting on PokeBank to ban it). It's not that it isn't beatable, it's that it is good enough against everything else that you have to specifically have a counter for it and will probably be running it yourself. Drizzle + Swift Swim was good enough with Water's neutral coverage that a large percentage of teams were rain teams and OU was stale.
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JesustheDarkLord posted:The broad principle behind OU is that it should be as wide-open a metagame as possible and it does a pretty good job of it. When a pokemon or strategy is too centralized it gets sent to Ubers (or for evasion stuff, banned). With DrizzleSwim, Ubers had a lot of counters to it (Groudon and others IIRC) that don't exist in OU, so that's why it got banned. It was a pretty controversial vote last I remember.
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The Project Pokemon team has successfully dumped X/Y and were able to hack in shiny Volcanion and Hoopa. Serebii has the info up on three new moves found on them as well: http://serebii.net/attackdex-xy/holdhands.shtml http://serebii.net/attackdex-xy/thousandwaves.shtml http://serebii.net/attackdex-xy/thousandarrows.shtml Volcanion is going to be ridiculous to fight against. Let's hope in Z nothing with STAB learns thousandwaves/arrows moves either 
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Desperate Character posted:The Project Pokemon team has successfully dumped X/Y and were able to hack in shiny Volcanion and Hoopa. Serebii has the info up on three new moves found on them as well: What does Light of Ruin do?
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Desperate Character posted:The Project Pokemon team has successfully dumped X/Y and were able to hack in shiny Volcanion and Hoopa. Serebii has the info up on three new moves found on them as well: Volcanion looks cool both normal and shiny. The thousandwaves/arrows moves look to be really fun to use. Arrows would kick Zapdos's face in so hard. What the gently caress does "Hold Hands" do, though? "Ally Pokémon hold hands. This makes them very happy." What does that even mean?
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Blaziken386 posted:Volcanion looks cool both normal and shiny. The thousandwaves/arrows moves look to be really fun to use. Arrows would kick Zapdos's face in so hard. Is it safe to assume that Thousand Waves/Arrows are for Zygarde?
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Blaziken386 posted:Volcanion looks cool both normal and shiny. The thousandwaves/arrows moves look to be really fun to use. Arrows would kick Zapdos's face in so hard. I'm thinking it will give surrounding pokemon a critical rate boost.
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Spiffster - Just thought I'd say that you've got a pretty solid team there. My battle box is pretty unbalanced and has some pretty terrible Pokes it in that I haven't bothered to EV train yet (as you just saw).
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Desperate Character posted:The Project Pokemon team has successfully dumped X/Y and were able to hack in shiny Volcanion and Hoopa. Serebii has the info up on three new moves found on them as well: Hold Hands is probably secretly devastating.
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:Is it safe to assume that Thousand Waves/Arrows are for Zygarde? Given the type and anti-air/anti-ground uses, yeah, probably. Right for when it gets its invertible new form/s.
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FallinInTheBlak posted:Spiffster - Just thought I'd say that you've got a pretty solid team there. My battle box is pretty unbalanced and has some pretty terrible Pokes it in that I haven't bothered to EV train yet (as you just saw). No problem, Today was the first time I did online battles. I wanted to test the fruits of my breeding and labor out on people and not AI for once to see what works and what doesn't. Thanks for the test run!  Let me know when you get your team fully set up, I'd love to try you at your best 
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:Is it safe to assume that Thousand Waves/Arrows are for Zygarde? Geostomp posted:Given the type and anti-air/anti-ground uses, yeah, probably. Right for when it gets its invertible new form/s.  Spiffster posted:No problem, Today was the first time I did online battles. I wanted to test the fruits of my breeding and labor out on people and not AI for once to see what works and what doesn't. Thanks for the test run!
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Wouldn't surprise me. And for all the flaws of B2/W2 it was a much more interesting approach than the usual third game fare. There wasn't much reason to buy the first two games before when the third was always just a straight upgrade. Not that that stopped anyone, but still.
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Abrasive Obelisk posted:What does Light of Ruin do? Apparently, it's the signature move of AZ's Floette, which also has unique Base Stats. I love that even with the 3DS's resistance to hacking, we've still managed to find out all the upcoming event stuff months or even years before it's released. Sorry Gamefreak, better luck next time.
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What about all the pokemon that don't have hands?
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fade5 posted:http://www.serebii.net/attackdex-xy/lightofruin.shtml Is there any way to get the Eternal Flower Floette?
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I just hope there's a wider range of clothing in the next games, especially for the guys. I can't get my edge on with just the ripped up jeans, I need the entire ensemble!
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Travis343 posted:What about all the pokemon that don't have hands? You don't necessarily need visible hands to do things that require hands.
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Travis343 posted:What about all the pokemon that don't have hands? Come on man, you gotta use a Pokemon reference in the Pokemon thread. 
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I think I need to finally ask for some help with my team. I've got a variety of Pokemon I've been using, but my current team for online battling is this: (they're all 4-5V) Unburden Hawlucha @Hard Stone Adamant Atk/Spe EVs -Fling -Taunt -Flying Press -U-Turn Natural Cure Chansey @Eviolite Calm HP/SpD EVs -Soft-Boiled -Thunder Wave -Aromatherapy -Seismic Toss Poison Touch Muk @Black Sludge Adamant HP/Atk EVs -Poison Jab -Shadow Sneak -Minimize -Curse Moody Glalie @Leftovers Quirky HP/Spe EVs -Frost Breath -Crunch -Substitute -Protect Huge Power Azumarill @Sitrus Berry Adamant HP/Atk EVs -Play Rough -Aqua Jet -Belly Drum -Aqua Ring (I should change this) Blaze Typhlosion @Life Orb Modest SpA/Spe EVs -Swift (need to change I guess) -Eruption -Will-O-Wisp -Extrasensory This is just a working team for online singles. The main 'Mons I use are Glalie, Chansey, and Muk, with Azumarill and Hawlucha rotating in and out depending on the opponents. Typhlosion is mostly there for coverage. The rest of my stable and previous team members include Milotic, Tyranitar, Ferrothorn, Murkrow, Dragonite, and Gliscor. I'm thinking about breeding a better Gliscor to replace Hawlucha, or possible Chandelure to replace Typhlosion. Basically, the only two that I feel are working out well are Glalie, Chansey, and Muk, but they still can have issues with common threats like Scizor. So I guess I'm mostly looking for Pokemon suggestions and maybe moveset tweaks. E: I also was thinking that including a Mega might be a good idea- maybe Heracross or Medicham, since I think they would help round out my type coverage and I've always liked them. Chill Penguin fucked around with this message at 03:27 on Apr 14, 2014 |
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fade5 posted:I love that even with the 3DS's resistance to hacking, we've still managed to find out all the upcoming event stuff months or even years before it's released. Sorry Gamefreak, better luck next time. still waiting on the fake GTS server though
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fade5 posted:Wooper used Ice Punch! Shroomish used Drain Punch/Focus Punch!  Gotta love google images 
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Blaziken386 posted:What the gently caress does "Hold Hands" do, though? "Ally Pokémon hold hands. This makes them very happy." What does that even mean? I'm going to assume that it's like Happy Hour in that its a move that's almost useless in battle but has an effect outside of it (In this case, maybe increasing happiness?) Or it could be like Celebrate (a move where the Pokémon appears in a present and wishes happy birthday).
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