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Drifter posted:How is Stein's Gate? What's its tone? Most people, myself included, would say that it is a good/great show (and visual novel).
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Apr 14, 2014 17:50
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I don't know what to believe anymore. Also, what is up with the semicolon? Is a steins a gate or something?
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Apr 14, 2014 17:53
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It's just a naming quirk used by Nitroplus/5pb for their science adventure series: Chaos;Head, Steins;Gate, Robotics;Notes, and the upcoming Chaos;Child. As an aside, Steins;Gate is the only one of those that is really worth looking into.
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Apr 14, 2014 17:56
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Just out of curiosity as I might go get Steins;Gate too, what's the animation quality like? Is it a high-budget series worth getting on Blu-Ray, or should I just go for the DVD version?
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Apr 14, 2014 17:58
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I don't think there is a DVD version, just the Blu-ray/DVD combo. Anyway, Steins;Gate is good, watch it.
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Apr 14, 2014 18:02
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Chas McGill posted:It's super anime, none of the characters are likable, and it has a moe factor way above my comfort level. I think it is a bad show. This is pretty much how I felt about Steins;Gate for the first like 4-5 episodes? It was really difficult to keep pushing through it thanks to how ~anime~ it was at the beginning and how monkey cheese the MC acts early on. Really recommendations were the only thing keeping me going, because drat a lot of people talked about how good the show is. However when things finally get serious halfway through it totally drew me in and really never stopped. Definitely think it's worth checking out and sticking with beyond the beginning parts, because the unexplained stuff that happens in the first half is really a good indication of what the show is about and where it's ultimately leading you. It seems like it had pretty decent animation and art direction from what I remember? Been a few years since I watched it, but nothing really egregious comes to mind outside of some of the character design.
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Apr 14, 2014 18:07
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Cake Attack posted:I don't think there is a DVD version, just the Blu-ray/DVD combo. Anyway, Steins;Gate is good, watch it. They're separate versions in Australia. The only time we get combo releases is with some of the stuff released by Universal Pictures. I have no idea why the hell they've suddenly gotten into anime distribution (at least in Australia anyway, I have no idea if they're doing it in the US too), but damned if I'm going to complain when it's gotten me a Blu-Ray/DVD Combo set of Serial Experiments Lain and a DVD set of Haibane Renmei. The only problem is they run radio silent on the whole thing, so there's no pre-release notification of what they're going to release until you suddenly find a new DVD with their anime collection slipcover on a store shelf.
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Apr 14, 2014 18:13
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Honestly does dvd to Bluray matter at all with most of the anime releases? Unless the bluray offers new art coloration or something, I'd be inclined to think the quality of the image would be essentially indistinguishable.
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Apr 14, 2014 18:22
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I think people who get turned off and drop S;G before it gets going miss out on the fact that the MC being a huge weirdo is intentional because he is not a well adjusted person. You, the viewer are supposed to think he's kind of a loser. Overall I think it's a great series even if it has some parts I'd say are ~problematic~ regarding a specific character but I found myself still enjoying it alot. You can even buy the VN in english now which has a gorgeous artstyle and IMO is better than the anime (not by much though). It doesn't have any porn or any gross poo poo that most VNs have too so there's that.
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Apr 14, 2014 18:23
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Chas McGill posted:It's super anime, none of the characters are likable, and it has a moe factor way above my comfort level. I think it is a bad show. You also have ridiculous high standards for the medium and drop a lot of good stuff because teenagers show up, or it is "too anime" Drifter - Steins;Gate is really, really good and has a really positive reaction from Critics and general watchers. It does take a while to get into the show (personally I was already hooked the second episode) but by episode 5-6 you should have a great feel of what the show will be going for. Drifter posted:Honestly does dvd to Bluray matter at all with most of the anime releases? Unless the bluray offers new art coloration or something, I'd be inclined to think the quality of the image would be essentially indistinguishable. Yes, yes it does! The picture will look sharper, you'll get slightly better detail and colours will still actually show up a bit better just due to Blu-Ray being a lot nicer to work with as far as compression and poo poo. Of course for older anime it can improve the show a lot. Some people just can't see the difference though, and if you're one of those people and saving money is more important, go with what you want.
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Apr 14, 2014 19:35
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For a lot of older anime, it's also a matter of whether there's any remastered footage available or not. The old DVDs for Patlabor TV didn't look too good, which is why they pale in comparison, but the recent re-release has remastered video that looks just great all across the board, even if you don't specifically go out of your way to pick up the BD version. The use of combo packs also tends to reduce the difference since they're typically relying on the same materials.
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Apr 14, 2014 19:52
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Drifter posted:How is Stein's Gate? What's its tone? Wow, you really like to watch polarizing shows. Steins;Gate isn't nearly as polarizing, but there's a sort of... barrier of entry, per se. Most people will like the characters and be able to push through the relatively slow first few episodes, and when the plot really starts to kick in they're hooked for the whole ride. A small minority get very put off by the characters and the pace and drop it before that hook. Personally, I think it's a fantastic show, and definitely one of my personal favorites. Okabe, annoying as he might be at first, has one of the best character arcs I've ever seen. On top of that, the story and art are both amazing. It was animated by White Fox who is now ADTRW famous for the inexplicably amazing Devil is a Part Timer. And if you can, watch both the dub and the sub. Okabe's English VA owns. ViggyNash fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Apr 14, 2014 |
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Apr 14, 2014 21:31
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The Black Stones posted:You also have ridiculous high standards for the medium and drop a lot of good stuff because teenagers show up, or it is "too anime"
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Apr 14, 2014 23:39
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Dropping Steins;Gate because Okabe is embarassing is like dropping Welcome to the NHK because Sato is embarassing.
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Apr 15, 2014 03:21
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The issue with Steins;Gate is that its characters indulge in otaku culture given how at least two of its characters are 2channers, which generally raises "anime" alarm bells for anyone who doesn't care for that sort of thing. Course the main character is his own brand of weird for specific reasons, which can be especially grating if you're not willing to look past it. It's a story of Japanese nerd outcasts doing silly science experiments until serious poo poo with consequences happen. I dunno if Robotic;notes follows the same trend of having a maladjusted cast, but I do know Chaos;head basically deals with a hikkikomori and his lovely mindset, (admittedly only played like half an hour of it before quitting since the main character was also pretty aggravating and I wasn't in the mood to deal with his nonsense at the time). At least with Okabe, you can sort of guess there's a reason why he acts the way he does in the rare instances he drops the acts in the first couple of episodes.
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Apr 15, 2014 03:22
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So I really like Game of Thrones. Specifically, I like the scenes with Tyrion and company; it's hard for me to care about many of the other stories going on in the show, so basically I would just like to see a show about Tyrion and Tywin just maneuvering against each other, or at least something like it. Is there something close to this in anime and if so, where should I start?
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Apr 15, 2014 03:28
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Thunderfinger posted:So I really like Game of Thrones. Specifically, I like the scenes with Tyrion and company; it's hard for me to care about many of the other stories going on in the show, so basically I would just like to see a show about Tyrion and Tywin just maneuvering against each other, or at least something like it. Is there something close to this in anime and if so, where should I start? Lots of people are probably going to tell you Legend of Galactic Heroes. They're half-right, but it's more like two Starks maneuvering against each other. If you want a hate-fueled melodramatic grudge match between father and son, you might try Code Geass, but it's not going to ever have the "gritty" atmosphere if that's what you wanted.
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Apr 15, 2014 03:30
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Thunderfinger posted:So I really like Game of Thrones. Specifically, I like the scenes with Tyrion and company; it's hard for me to care about many of the other stories going on in the show, so basically I would just like to see a show about Tyrion and Tywin just maneuvering against each other, or at least something like it. Is there something close to this in anime and if so, where should I start? Code Geass and Guilty Crown 
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Apr 15, 2014 03:34
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Lots of people are probably going to tell you Legend of Galactic Heroes. They're half-right, but it's more like two Starks maneuvering against each other. I only used Game of Thrones as an example of what I wanted to see. I meant more like political maneuvering, backstabbing and general chess mastery, that kind of stuff. And don't say Death Note. I tried it and couldn't get into it. Edit: Anything else besides Code Geass? I want to hear other suggestions. Thunderfinger fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Apr 15, 2014 03:41
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Ah yes. Code Geese
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Apr 15, 2014 03:42
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Thunderfinger posted:I only used Game of Thrones as an example of what I wanted to see. I meant more like political maneuvering, backstabbing and general chess mastery, that kind of stuff. And don't say Death Note. I tried it and couldn't get into it. You'll want Legend of Galactic heroes, then, because it's just about the only other anime with that kind of thing. The manga of Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind has that in the many scenes having to do with the Torumekian and Dorok royalty, as well.
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Apr 15, 2014 03:53
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Lots of people are probably going to tell you Legend of Galactic Heroes. They're half-right, but it's more like two Starks maneuvering against each other. E: Code Geass actually does have a lot of what you'd want I guess, but you might want to read the last couple of pages of this thread before you dive in. Nate RFB fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Apr 15, 2014 04:16
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DrPaper posted:Code Geass and Guilty Crown Watch Code Geass, but you probably shouldn't watch Guilty Crown.
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Apr 15, 2014 04:24
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Legend of the Galactic Heroes is an excellent suggestion, considering it's an all-around political/military epic in space. There are various arcs specifically focused on the infighting among the Empire as well as within the Free Planets Alliance, which you see change and develop throughout the years. It's in the thread title for a reason. Fang of the Sun Dougram is an obscure Real Robot show that has some very interesting political aspects to it. The result feels a bit like LOGH-lite at times. Check it out. Silver2195 posted:Watch Code Geass, but you probably shouldn't watch Guilty Crown. Code Geass might partially fit, since Lelouch backstabs and manipulates a lot of folks, including his own relatives. Watch if you like/enjoy over-the-top content. Guilty Crown is shiny music video fodder masquerading as a terrible anime about a lame version of Shinji Ikari pulling swords out of people. Not recommended. wielder fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Apr 15, 2014 04:38
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Do not watch Guilty Crown. Guilty Crown is made by people who thought that Code Geass needed to take itself way more seriously but have ideas a million times more dumb.
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Apr 15, 2014 04:44
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Oh, I forgot a couple of other possible examples. Berserk isn't focused on the political maneuvering as a whole, but it does have some content that absolutely qualifies, especially during the Golden Age arc of the original manga. It's also generally great dark fantasy, despite still remaining unfinished at the time of this writing. The politics in Twelve Kingdoms are also very well handled and reasonably complex, for the most part, albeit they're usually less deadly in nature. Watch it if you're into eastern-style medieval fantasy and awesome world-building. Neither of them are exactly like of Game of Thrones, but I think some of the situations portrayed in them still deal with relatively similar concepts. wielder fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Apr 15, 2014 05:00
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Galactic heroes is probably the only one close so far. I mean, Geass has maneuvering but it's pretty anime about it (which is fine, because code geass rules, but it's not very GoT). Oberstein is more or less a pair of balls and some perfume away from being varys.
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Apr 15, 2014 05:13
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Maybe Kingdom? I haven't seen or read it, but it's been on my to-do list and it's an anime about the Warring States of China, so there's bound to be political maneuvering.
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Apr 15, 2014 05:29
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There's a bit of neat political maneuvering in the first part of Vinland Saga. Not so much afterward, but it's still a great manga worth checking out.
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Apr 15, 2014 05:30
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^OH YOU FUCKERAllarion posted:Maybe Kingdom? I haven't seen or read it, but it's been on my to-do list and it's an anime about the Warring States of China, so there's bound to be political maneuvering. Oh! Vinland Saga has a bit of that, though less the political intrigue and more the medieval conflict aspect (though there's some northman like fuckery for sure). Its much more action and ideological than political, for the most part, but it is an INCREDIBLE manga so checking it out regardless would not be time misspent.
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Apr 15, 2014 05:32
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Thunderfinger posted:I only used Game of Thrones as an example of what I wanted to see. I meant more like political maneuvering, backstabbing and general chess mastery, that kind of stuff. And don't say Death Note. I tried it and couldn't get into it. These all kinda get there, even if they may not start out that way - the first two are fantastic: One Outs. Log Horizon. the Patlabors to a certain extent. I really liked them. I haven't seen Gasaraki yet, but you should at least check out the link or some other reviews. Seems really interesting. I may make it a soon to be watch ed show for me. Gankutsuou is a sci-fi version of the Count of Monte Cristo, to hear people talk about it. Honestly it sounds pretty fuckin' rad, and is also on my list of shows to watch. Infinite Ryvius also sounds pretty interesting. Apparently people dock points from it because of animation issues - maybe it looks old? It sounds like due to sabotage students have to take control of a spaceship after all the adults are killed, and they face mutiny and continuing sabotage stuff...someone likened it in part to Lord of the Flies. I don't even know what Le Chevalier D'Eon is going on about, but it sounds pretty intrigue-y. Some spy stuff and assassinations in a kingdom and whatnot. I'm going to give this one a shot very soon. LoGH is so good, though. Drifter fucked around with this message at 05:44 on Apr 15, 2014 |
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Apr 15, 2014 05:41
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Drifter posted:Gankutsuou is a sci-fi version of the Count of Monte Cristo, to hear people talk about it. Honestly it sounds pretty fuckin' rad, and is also on my list of shows to watch. It is very fuckin' rad, despite being animated by the most incompetent of studios. But barring the terrible CG, pretty much everything is brilliant.
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Apr 15, 2014 06:17
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Thunderfinger posted:So I really like Game of Thrones. Specifically, I like the scenes with Tyrion and company; it's hard for me to care about many of the other stories going on in the show, so basically I would just like to see a show about Tyrion and Tywin just maneuvering against each other, or at least something like it. Is there something close to this in anime and if so, where should I start? It might be a bit old for your liking, I'm not sure, but perhaps you might want to try Rose of Versailles? It's has tons of people doing politcal poo poo and maneuvering, it's just not really on a "you're going to die ASAP if you gently caress this up" level like Game of Thrones.
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Apr 15, 2014 06:51
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The Black Stones posted:It might be a bit old for your liking, I'm not sure, but perhaps you might want to try Rose of Versailles? It's has tons of people doing politcal poo poo and maneuvering, it's just not really on a "you're going to die ASAP if you gently caress this up" level like Game of Thrones. Gameof Thrones seems to be more 'if you gently caress this, you're going to die'.
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Drifter posted:Infinite Ryvius also sounds pretty interesting. Apparently people dock points from it because of animation issues - maybe it looks old? It sounds like due to sabotage students have to take control of a spaceship after all the adults are killed, and they face mutiny and continuing sabotage stuff...someone likened it in part to Lord of the Flies. Ryvius I remember enjoying. If I had to level a complaint against it, it'd probably be that is suuuper grim and depressing, to the point where you might have trouble taking it seriously at times/find it really exhausting to watch. The animation does look dated, but not bad necessarily? Suck it up. Le Comte de Monte Cristo in SPAAACE was rad as well. If you'd told me it was by The Worst Studio when I was watching it I'd never have believed you. The series with Depardieu is better, though.
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Apr 15, 2014 08:55
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Well it is basically Lord of the Flies in space so things are bound to get dire. Despite that it also has one of my favorite tracks so I'm inclined to look on the show favorably regardless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKfjkha6r9I
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If you liked Infinite Ryvius but kind of soured on the grim Lord of the Flies stuff check out Round Vernian Vifam. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwszwb3aIPg
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Allarion posted:The issue with Steins;Gate is that its characters indulge in otaku culture given how at least two of its characters are 2channers, which generally raises "anime" alarm bells for anyone who doesn't care for that sort of thing. Course the main character is his own brand of weird for specific reasons, which can be especially grating if you're not willing to look past it. It's a story of Japanese nerd outcasts doing silly science experiments until serious poo poo with consequences happen. I dunno if Robotic;notes follows the same trend of having a maladjusted cast, but I do know Chaos;head basically deals with a hikkikomori and his lovely mindset, (admittedly only played like half an hour of it before quitting since the main character was also pretty aggravating and I wasn't in the mood to deal with his nonsense at the time). At least with Okabe, you can sort of guess there's a reason why he acts the way he does in the rare instances he drops the acts in the first couple of episodes.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Dropping Steins;Gate because Okabe is embarassing is like dropping Welcome to the NHK because Sato is embarassing.
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You don't have to be, because the story is a pretty universal one. Also, Okabe becomes a very interesting character once the plot starts pushing him to the limits.
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