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Twitter account of someone who was there. Going through his experiences now and it's obvious he's deeply affected by the tragedy. https://twitter.com/TonyEvansTimes
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Apr 16, 2014 03:32
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I still can't come to grips with the idea that 25 years ago or whatever the idea of stadiums having *seats* for everyone was a crazy idea. Just having people stand on terraces the whole time.
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Apr 16, 2014 03:41
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davecrazy posted:I still can come to grips with the idea that 25 years ago or whatever the idea of stadiums having *seats* for everyone was a crazy idea. Just having people stand on terraces the whole time.
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Apr 16, 2014 03:50
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Caging in your supporters and then subdividing them with spike pointed fences is a recipe for disaster.
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Apr 16, 2014 03:55
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I can understand the need for segregated fan sections (we see this when the U.S. soccer team plays in Mexico, the traveling fans have police escorts and everything), but Hillsborough's stadium design was flat-out dangerous and nowhere near prepared to handle a crowd that size.
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Apr 16, 2014 04:15
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Segregated fan sections are fine. They do it to this day in the EPL. But now its usually just a wall of security around the rival fan section.
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Apr 16, 2014 04:17
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I'm extremely disturbed having watched this.
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Apr 16, 2014 09:01
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Anyone else's DirecTV not record this? Either ESPN or DTV changed the actual title of the show from "30 for 30: Soccer Stories" to the usual "30 for 30" and that led to it not being recorded. I guess it's reairing on ESPN2 on Sunday at 10pm EST - just really wanted to watch this yesterday and technology boned me so if that happened to anyone else, you've got a re-air time to record it again.
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Apr 16, 2014 18:01
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My DirectTV DVR recorded it fine.
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Bliggers- posted:I'm extremely disturbed having watched this. That was a very, very angry documentary. A number of films in the series have been about tragedy, but take on a more somber, reflective tone and somewhat ask "what if" during the presentation. That's not the case here; there's a slow burn that builds as a horrible event happens and the coverup becomes worse than the crime, and it rises and rises until the whole "Justice For the 96" chant that's just two decades of righteous anger, fury, rage pouring out. There's no comparison for what's occurred here in the States. We've had fans fall to their deaths and kill each other and get into fights with the athletes and poison trees, but never on such a scale and where they would be held responsible in a situation where it wasn't their fault.
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Apr 17, 2014 05:22
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So, yeah. The Hillsborough film was outright amazing and touching to watch.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:57
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wattershed posted:Anyone else's DirecTV not record this? Either ESPN or DTV changed the actual title of the show from "30 for 30: Soccer Stories" to the usual "30 for 30" and that led to it not being recorded. I guess it's reairing on ESPN2 on Sunday at 10pm EST - just really wanted to watch this yesterday and technology boned me so if that happened to anyone else, you've got a re-air time to record it again. Direct TV here, my DVR recorded it just fine
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Apr 17, 2014 19:47
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Kid Rock's annoying voice is already ruining this.
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Apr 18, 2014 01:07
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This might be the first 30 for 30 I really dislike, although it has nothing to do with the production or story. It doesn't even really have to do with the subject. It's Bill Laimbeer being all over the place, and the knowledge of how it warms his awful heart knowing that people have this reaction. Also Mitch Albom's hair is amazing.
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Apr 18, 2014 01:58
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Tonight I learned that Dennis Rodman would squeeze James Worthy's rear end during games to psych him out.
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Apr 18, 2014 02:19
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Of course Bill Laimbeer would wear a fedora. Of loving course
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Apr 18, 2014 02:43
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yessssss BS time
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Apr 18, 2014 02:58
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Jalen Rose needs his own talk show where he can do crazy Jalen Rose things.
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Apr 18, 2014 03:01
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Grittybeard posted:This might be the first 30 for 30 I really dislike, although it has nothing to do with the production or story. It doesn't even really have to do with the subject. It's Bill Laimbeer being all over the place, and the knowledge of how it warms his awful heart knowing that people have this reaction. I see a statement like this and it warms my cold Michigander heart. Crazy Ted posted:Jalen Rose needs his own talk show where he can do crazy Jalen Rose things. Also this.
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Apr 18, 2014 03:08
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anyone remember when isiah thomas hated BS?
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Apr 18, 2014 03:12
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The docs that are filtered through the league office aren't that great. This would have been fine for NBA TV and I would have watched. But they shouldn't put this stuff under the "30 for 30" umbrella. Not sure how you can put out something like Hillsborough which digs deep into a topic and doesn't hold back and follow it up with a puff piece that avoided mentioning things the league found troubling.
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Apr 18, 2014 03:16
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hahahaha burn from Jalen
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Apr 18, 2014 03:38
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Niwrad posted:Not sure how you can put out something like Hillsborough which digs deep into a topic and doesn't hold back and follow it up with a puff piece that avoided mentioning things the league found troubling. Here's how: the television rights to the English Premier League are owned by NBCSN, and the team in question is located an ocean away from Bristol, CT. Meanwhile, the NBA and ESPN have a massive rights deal, and a longstanding working relationship. That's how.
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Niwrad posted:The docs that are filtered through the league office aren't that great. This would have been fine for NBA TV and I would have watched. But they shouldn't put this stuff under the "30 for 30" umbrella. Not sure how you can put out something like Hillsborough which digs deep into a topic and doesn't hold back and follow it up with a puff piece that avoided mentioning things the league found troubling.
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Apr 18, 2014 05:00
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This Pistons thing was boring as poo poo. It's like some 2nd rate straight to DVD NBA produced puff piece for nostalgic fans. As somebody who doesn't give two shits about basketball or the Pistons there was nothing interesting here. Unlike the Reggie Miller one which actually told an interesting story.
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Apr 18, 2014 05:23
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BigBoss posted:I was bummed about the lack of drama. I've always had the feeling that even though some of the guys went on to other teams that they will always be Pistons no matter what. I would have loved to see some of the guys let loose and talk about how they actually felt. I saw John Salley not that long ago making less than complimentary remarks regarding the Bulls (and Jordan) and he was on the 1996 Bulls. The personalities from this time were so intense, and they put Isiah out there smiling and waving, trying to smooth everything over. I wanted more blood and bile. If this weren't produced by NBA Entertainment, it might've had that stuff.
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Apr 18, 2014 05:55
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NBC should do one where they ask Isiah about shaving points and telling everyone Magic was gay.
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Apr 18, 2014 06:04
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Niwrad posted:NBC should do one where they ask Isiah about shaving points and telling everyone Magic was gay. Also, ask him about "bitches" and Bob Knight's favorite word, "sunt."
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Apr 18, 2014 15:03
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Niwrad posted:NBC should do one where they ask Isiah about shaving points and telling everyone Magic was gay. these things did not happen basketball took place strictly from may to june from 1981 to 1989 and the lakers and celtics played each other for 7 games a year after which the players went home and magic johnson took pictures with celebrities and larry bird was on a farm or whatever everything is okay
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Apr 18, 2014 16:29
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I missed Hillsborough, does anyone know if/when it's re-airing at some point?
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Apr 19, 2014 01:55
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I missed Hillsborough, does anyone know if/when it's re-airing at some point? I think it's supposed to re-air tomorrow night.
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Apr 19, 2014 01:59
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Kibner posted:I think it's supposed to re-air tomorrow night. Sunday at 10:00 p.m. on ESPN2 for anyone else interested.
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Apr 19, 2014 02:04
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Sunday at 10:00 p.m. on ESPN2 for anyone else interested. I watched it on YouTube earlier this week. Low res, but still good.
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Apr 19, 2014 02:13
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Kibner posted:I watched it on YouTube earlier this week. Low res, but still good. Is it still up? I looked but couldn't find a copy.
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Apr 19, 2014 02:15
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ESPN is taking them down quicker than usual, due to the whole restriction on Hillsborough being shown in the UK.
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Apr 19, 2014 02:19
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AsInHowe posted:ESPN is taking them down quicker than usual, due to the whole restriction on Hillsborough being shown in the UK. Ahh, didn't think of that. You guys weren't kidding. loving A, what a documentary. SamuraiFoochs fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Apr 21, 2014 |
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Apr 19, 2014 02:24
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They're currently airing the 30 for 30 on Maradona. Well i think its just on his 86 run. I think its only 30 minutes too.
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Apr 23, 2014 00:22
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Are all 30-for-30 soccer documentaries this loving depressing? Jesus.
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Dancing Peasant posted:Are all 30-for-30 soccer documentaries this loving depressing? Jesus. Not at all! There's The Two Escobars which...oh... Great documentaries though.
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