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Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

Cardboard Box A posted:

Huckabee is not electable and he knows it.

Huckabee's is a place where the average American would go to get fried onion rings, not a person you'd vote for as President.

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FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Gravel Gravy posted:

Huckabee's is a place where the average American would go to get fried onion rings norovirus, not a person you'd vote for as President.

Don't need no stinkin' health department pulling that North Korea food inspection hogwarsh on the workin' man.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Phyllis Schafly, Church Lady in Chief, says equal pay means women can't find a good hubby

quote:

Another fact is the influence of hypergamy, which means that women typically choose a mate (husband or boyfriend) who earns more than she does. Men don't have the same preference for a higher-earning mate.

While women prefer to HAVE a higher-earning partner, men generally prefer to BE the higher-earning partner in a relationship. This simple but profound difference between the sexes has powerful consequences for the so-called pay gap.

Suppose the pay gap between men and women were magically eliminated. If that happened, simple arithmetic suggests that half of women would be unable to find what they regard as a suitable mate.

Obviously, I'm not saying women won't date or marry a lower-earning men, only that they probably prefer not to. If a higher-earning man is not available, many women are more likely not to marry at all.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
Christianpost.com, sounds reputable.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

forbidden lesbian posted:

Christianpost.com, sounds reputable.

So are you saying that Phyllis Schafly didn't write that oped article then :confused:

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
My wife earns more than me and has tenure. It rocks.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

That reminds me vaguely of an editorial I saw written by a Princeton alumna advising all current undergraduate women at Princeton to make sure to find a husband before they graduate, because their odds of finding someone with high earning potential would never be higher and men NEVER marry a woman who makes more money than they do.

(she also said to try to get on that during freshman or sophomore year because men also never date anyone older than them and that pool of eligible Princeton bachelors just keeps shrinking)

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Marrying a woman who makes enough money so I don't have to work is like my number one life aspiration.

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax
Wouldn't any earnings of a woman automatically count as the man's earnings in Schlafy land, where a wife is the property of her husband?

Lancelot
May 23, 2006

Fun Shoe

Chris Christie posted:

Everything else, which takes up page after page after page after page, is all basically accounting rules for partnerships.
This is blatantly incorrect and you have no idea what you're talking about.

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

greatn posted:

Wouldn't any earnings of a woman automatically count as the man's earnings in Schlafy land, where a wife is the property of her husband?

It's a tautology. In the Mind of Schafly, A "good" husband will earn more than his wife, so any many who earns less than his wife or has fewer assets than his wife is automatically not a "good" husband.

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

loquacius posted:

That reminds me vaguely of an editorial I saw written by a Princeton alumna advising all current undergraduate women at Princeton to make sure to find a husband before they graduate, because their odds of finding someone with high earning potential would never be higher and men NEVER marry a woman who makes more money than they do.

(she also said to try to get on that during freshman or sophomore year because men also never date anyone older than them and that pool of eligible Princeton bachelors just keeps shrinking)

Written by a Princeton alumna who herself married a non - Princeton graduate and who herself married later in life

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

Written by a Princeton alumna who herself married a non - Princeton graduate and who herself married later in life

I actually didn't know this detail. Bet that was a happy marriage :allears:

Did they get divorced or was this just a really passive-aggressive shot at her husband she wrote and submitted in the middle of an argument?

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

Written by a Princeton alumna who herself married a non - Princeton graduate and who herself married later in life

Also whose sons are currently at Princeton and still available, ladies!

pangstrom
Jan 25, 2003

Wedge Regret

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

Written by a Princeton alumna who herself married a non - Princeton graduate and who herself married later in life
And got a divorce
http://nymag.com/thecut/2013/03/qa-princeton-mom-wishes-she-married-classmate.html

It's really a combo "advice I would have given myself back then" with a "slam on dummy ex-husband" from a person who is a little too proud of having gone to Princeton and who hasn't figured out that ELITE people don't get married that early anymore. It's not a perfect analogy but it's sort of the NY Jewish socialite version of the telling the guy who is still in college to be semi-efficient with his time so he has lots left over to meet/date/etc. women because it never gets easier etc.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

greatn posted:

My wife earns more than me and has tenure. It rocks.

This is really another of those "I choose socialism for completely selfish reasons" kind of things. I'd love it if my girlfriend earned as much as or even more than I did because it just means more money between the two of us.

Khisanth Magus
Mar 31, 2011

Vae Victus
I wish my wife hadn't had a condition she had had for years deteriorate to the point where she can't work, but is something that we have had trouble getting SSA to recognize as something worth getting disability for. As a result I am a single earner and the modern US economy is not made for single earners.

Whiskey Sours
Jan 25, 2014

Weather proof.

greatn posted:

My wife earns more than me and has tenure. It rocks.

Your wife is going to leave you for a more desirable mate :biotruths:

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


greatn posted:

My wife earns more than me and has tenure. It rocks.

In the last two months, my wife got a promotion and is not making more than I do. Would you like to know what changed in our relationship? Nothing.

But now that I think about it. I feel emasculated and cannot go on. I will now have to divorce my wife and force my two daughters to deal with the stress of a divorce....if only their mother cared about them more than herself. :smith:

greatn
Nov 15, 2006

by Lowtax

Whiskey Sours posted:

Your wife is going to leave you for a more desirable mate :biotruths:

Not with my superior health insurance.

Oh poo poo, obamacare made insurance more affordable. OBAMAAAAAAAAAA!

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

The day someone finds this woman's phylactery and crushes it beneath their boot will be a good day for political discourse.

Shageletic
Jul 25, 2007

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

Our tax code is a Kafkaesque mess, but for most people the criticisms really don't hold up. The IRS has done a pretty decent job of streamlining things for the average taxpayer who has a W-2, a few 1099s, and may have to itemize a mortgage and some dependents. In no small part because they've cooperated with TurboTax and the like, but there have also been changes like explaining things in plain English and so on.

Where it really gets complicated is when you start filing business income, and then the corporate tax code is just its own world beyond that. But then those aren't too complicated either, except where having lawyers and accountants plumb potential complexities is profitable - compliance is simple, compliance while actively minimizing your bill can be trickier but as others have pointed out companies don't do it because they like wasting money on tax accounting.

So yeah, the whole thing more or less needs to be burned to the ground and rebuilt coherently, but not because of obsolete stand-up comedy about how taxes are hard or something.

Still catching up with the thread, so it might have already been linked, but here's an article on how Turbo Tax has fought free and simple tax filing, overwhelmingly successfully.

EDIT: Ah poo poo, beaten.

Shageletic fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Apr 16, 2014

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Montana State Senator Matt Rosendale, running for Congress this year, shoots down a drone in his new campaign ad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOoXJI4vBns

By 2016 I expect to see some Olympus Has Fallen style footage of candidates storming the Capitol to take it back for America.

Gin and Juche
Apr 3, 2008

The Highest Judge of Paradise
Shiki Eiki
YAMAXANADU

Joementum posted:

Montana State Senator Matt Rosendale, running for Congress this year, shoots down a drone in his new campaign ad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOoXJI4vBns

By 2016 I expect to see some Olympus Has Fallen style footage of candidates storming the Capitol to take it back for America.

I'd say they should've learned their lesson about using violent imagery against political opponents, but I doubt it.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Joementum posted:

Montana State Senator Matt Rosendale, running for Congress this year, shoots down a drone in his new campaign ad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOoXJI4vBns

By 2016 I expect to see some Olympus Has Fallen style footage of candidates storming the Capitol to take it back for America.

Thank god someone is finally doing something about all those government drones that are blackening the sky while spying on citizens. This is an actual problem that people should be hell of concerned about.

He's not running for Representative of the Khyber Pass district is he?

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Spatula City posted:

And it's profoundly stupid because most of the same people complaining now wanted the stringent screening procedures when the country was on high terror alert. Maybe unsurprising, though, because these people are probably straight up unable to remember policy positions they held even a year ago. I'm not mocking them here, I literally suspect their memories are that bad.

No. They only wanted "suspicious looking people" to be screened and inconvenienced. I'll let you guess what "suspicious" means in their eyes.

pangstrom posted:

It's something Reuters published, "sourced" from Florida's Dept. of Law enforcement. I think someone in Reuters thought "gun deaths = bad = should be low" or they just learned how to invert the axis or something if "sourced" just means "got the data from", otherwise maybe FDLE cooked it. It shows up in a lot of the "worst charts/infographics" lists.
http://www.businessinsider.com/gun-deaths-in-florida-increased-with-stand-your-ground-2014-2

Holy loving poo poo. That actually took me a minute.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

zoux posted:

Marrying a woman who makes enough money so I don't have to work is like my number one life aspiration.

:hfive:

I'm already married to her, and it's only a year an a half until she gets her MBA and this happens.

Livin the dream :toot:

Chris Christie
Dec 26, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Lancelot posted:

This is blatantly incorrect and you have no idea what you're talking about.

Subchapter K of the Internal Revenue Code:

Sec. 701 Partners, not partnership, subject to tax.

A two sentence provision taking up 3 lines of text on a single page of my selected Federal Income Tax Code and Regulations sections book. Followed by ~30 more pages of mostly book-keeping type information for Subchapter K.

Section 702, also on the very first page, details what is taken into account for determining income of a partner, his/her distributive share of X, Y, Z, etc.

Section 703, STILL on the same single page, gets into partnership computations, the same way as in the case of an individual, with exceptions X, Y, Z, etc.

The rest of it is all book keeping crap. Determining basis, contributions, distributions, transfers, payments to a retiring partner, recognition of precontribution gain, unrealized recievables, treatment of certain liabilities, etc., etc., etc.

Section 704 - determining distributive share. 705 - determining basis. 706 - determining the taxable year. 707-transactions between partner and partnership. 708 - continuation of partnership. 10 pages into it, we get to Part II - Contributions, Distributions, and Transfers, another dozen or so pages. We finish up with Part III - Definitions, and Part IV - Special Rules for electing large partnerships.

I don't know, maybe you're just taking issue with me using the word "accounting rules" to describe the 99% of Subchapter K that isn't computation of tax, rather than labeling it as "book-keeping rules" or something like that???

Lancelot
May 23, 2006

Fun Shoe
All of that stuff is substantive tax law that is needed to calculate the tax burden of partners and partnerships in different situations. Basis is literally a way of calculating how much tax you pay when you dispose of your share of the partnership. I'm a tax lawyer, I know this stuff well, it's not just book-keeping or accounting: it's an essential part of calculating tax liabilities.

Tax talk: most interesting talk.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Lancelot posted:

All of that stuff is substantive tax law that is needed to calculate the tax burden of partners and partnerships in different situations. Basis is literally a way of calculating how much tax you pay when you dispose of your share of the partnership. I'm a tax lawyer, I know this stuff well, it's not just book-keeping or accounting: it's an essential part of calculating tax liabilities.

Tax talk: most interesting talk.
Well then, if you disagree with my proposal then you must obviously be too invested in the system you benefit from to see the advantages of my 9-9-:godwin: plan. :smugdog: After all, expertise is no match for what you feel in your heart!

e: Of course, if you agree with me, it just shows how clever my plan is. Obviously!

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!
Unrelated to taxchat but depressingly predictably, Congressman Dennis Ross (R-FL) knows just what the working poor deserve: not a raise. Why, you ask? Well in addition to the tired "but then crappy burgers will cost more!" nonsense, the minimum wage hides even more sinister implications:

quote:

If the government’s going to tell me how much I can get paid and when I can work and when I can’t work, then we have a serious problem in this country.

Basic labor laws: an intolerable affront to liberty. :911:

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

zoux posted:

So are you saying that Phyllis Schafly didn't write that oped article then :confused:

It was a shorter way of saying that everything in it was wrong.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

forbidden lesbian posted:

It was a shorter way of saying that everything in it was wrong.

She's on an 89 year unbroken streak of only saying wrong things.

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Unrelated to taxchat but depressingly predictably, Congressman Dennis Ross (R-FL) knows just what the working poor deserve: not a raise. Why, you ask? Well in addition to the tired "but then crappy burgers will cost more!" nonsense, the minimum wage hides even more sinister implications:


Basic labor laws: an intolerable affront to liberty. :911:
Said by someone whose salary and working hours are determined by the government.

Pythagoras a trois
Feb 19, 2004

I have a lot of points to make and I will make them later.

zoux posted:

She's on an 89 year unbroken streak of only saying wrong things.

Because the thread is in shambles, I figure now is as good a time as any to say your avatar might be my all time favorite.

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




haveblue posted:

Someone said in a different thread that the situation will be resolved quickly and quietly when the government threatens his license to sell cattle on the open market. Is this accurate? None of the media coverage I've read mentions it.

http://rt.com/usa/nevada-cattle-rachner-row-268/

Russia Times posted:

The dispute between Bundy and federal authorities actually began in 1993 when he stopped paying monthly fees of about $1.35 per cow-calf pair to graze public lands. Plus, the government argues that Bundy has ignored cancelation of his grazing leases and defied federal court orders to remove his cattle.

The authorities said that Bundy still owes taxpayers more than $1 million, and that the government would work to resolve the matter administratively, through the court system.

I'm surprised this hasn't seen more discussion on DnD, though. From the sounds of it, this was a hair's breadth away from being Waco squared.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry

how does this do anything other than prove his point?

So to follow up on my fiancee's efforts to stop the personhood-masked-in-Stand-Your-Ground-rhetoric bill here in South Carolina's legislature:

Basically her press releases last Friday got HuffPo, ThinkProgress, Jezebel, RawStory and any number of local news outlets from as far away as Tulsa turned on to the story. There's no way this bill passes now, although a local partner apparently said that if there's anything they'd prefer to trade to Senator Lee "Too Stupid To Breathe" Bright for a compromise on other womens' rights bills, it's this one.

The national partner who had called that evening to bitch her out for race-baiting and co-opting "the language of an African-American issue" never called back and simply posted "Congratulations" on her Facebook page this morning.

Now if only we were making progress instead of just stopping regress in this state :smith:

Also the sponsor/"author" of the bill (Americans United for Life wrote it and gave it to her) is local idiot Katrina Shealy who, via her social media outlets and response to the outrage, has basically been on her back foot this week because it's clear she simply DOES NOT UNDERSTAND the broad implications of legislation she supports.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Cheekio posted:

Because the thread is in shambles, I figure now is as good a time as any to say your avatar might be my all time favorite.

Thanks! Someone else bought it for me!

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



So I have a dummy email getting RNC messages and I got this fun one today.

Reince Priebus posted:

Paul,

We are suing the IRS.

Obama's IRS targeted, harassed and discriminated against tea party and conservative groups because of their values and beliefs.

This is an outrage and an unprecedented abuse of power. Principled conservatives should not be the victims of an administration that allows the IRS to go after its perceived political enemies.

Obama’s bureaucrats tried to silence our voices and deny us our constitutional rights—but we won’t let them. That’s why we’ve been fighting to expose the truth.

We just filed a lawsuit against the IRS, demanding they turn over the documents we legally requested.

Over 226 days ago, we filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the IRS to uncover the truth, but they are illegally stonewalling our legal requests for information.

We’ve had enough of the Obama administration’s denials, delays and deceptions. And we won’t stop fighting until we get to the bottom of this unprecedented targeting scandal.

But to ensure our voice is heard, we need you to speak up. Join us, and thousands of conservatives, in the fight to hold them accountable.

We will not stand for this abuse and we will fight until we get the truth.

Add your name in support of our lawsuit against the IRS.

Thanks,

Reince
I'm not sure this appeal has enough keywords to trigger the necessary dronelike compliance. What do you guys think?

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Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Lead out in cuffs posted:

http://rt.com/usa/nevada-cattle-rachner-row-268/


I'm surprised this hasn't seen more discussion on DnD, though. From the sounds of it, this was a hair's breadth away from being Waco squared.

It's come up here and in other threads, the consensus seems to be "that guy's a shithead, his supporters are bloodthirsty loons, and the feds did the right thing backing down so we wouldn't have another Waco and/or Ruby Ridge." The big thing to watch for now is what happens when they slap him with massive civil penalties, and whether that provokes his plastic patriot pals into shooting anyone.

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