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Count Bleck posted:Probably the Nylea I forgot to mention Strangely it seems like, after a quick search, there aren't any creatures that naturally have trample and deathtouch together (Cairns Wanderer doesn't count). E: since it's the top of the page, I'll also add that I had a similar experience learning how the two keywords work together. Seems like an interesting "skill-tester" interaction that should exist on some core set card.
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Apr 17, 2014 17:29
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So someone can cast a counter even if the target spell is uncounterable? At least in paper magic? (I mostly play MTGO where I don't think the client would let you, because why would you?)
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Apr 17, 2014 17:30
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Loving Life Partner posted:(I mostly play MTGO where I don't think the client would let you, because why would you?) Draw a card off of Remand. 
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Apr 17, 2014 17:31
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Loving Life Partner posted:So someone can cast a counter even if the target spell is uncounterable? At least in paper magic? (I mostly play MTGO where I don't think the client would let you, because why would you?) You can, the counterspell will resolve and everything but the countering itself, I think. Could be useful, if you need the other effect (like Discombobulate).
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Apr 17, 2014 17:33
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TheKingofSprings posted:Draw a card off of Remand. Having an opponent remand your Emrakul with a sour look on their face is best.
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Apr 17, 2014 17:33
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Loving Life Partner posted:So someone can cast a counter even if the target spell is uncounterable? At least in paper magic? (I mostly play MTGO where I don't think the client would let you, because why would you?) Right, the ability isn't "can't be targeted by counterspells", so you can cast and aim a counterspell at it just fine. But when the counterspell resolves, "counter that spell" is overridden by "can't be countered" and that part of the resolution doesn't happen.
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Apr 17, 2014 17:34
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Count Bleck posted:That sounds incredibly evil and I kind of want to make an EDH deck that does that. He's in my Zedruu deck. I also have Possibility Storm as it does the same thing with Teferi out.
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Apr 17, 2014 17:46
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Toshimo posted:Good. It sounds like you did your playgroup a favor. I mean I guess, if you want to be kind of a dick about it. It just soured me on the whole experience. Now I play Modern and enjoy it quite a lot. So it looks like everything worked out!
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Apr 17, 2014 17:55
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Real Magic players suffer through boring and repetitive EDH combo playgroups and like it. 
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Apr 17, 2014 17:59
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Comp REL trigger rules have had some feelbads. I won a match in a PTQ judge-scumming a missed Jace, AoT trigger. I would have won it anyway, but it wasn't clear until my next turn. And this one hasn't happened to me but I'm sure someone got hosed at an M14 limited PTQ. "Claustrophobia your guy. Attack?" "Block with my guy." "He's tapped." "You missed the trigger."
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Apr 17, 2014 18:00
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Back when Delver.dec was in vogue I had multiple people try to equip runepike on their phantasmal image. The best was when the image was copying my Phyrexian Obliterator so it wasn't a great idea even if it did work.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:00
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Kasonic posted:Real Magic players suffer through boring and repetitive EDH combo playgroups and like it. His suffering must be superior to my suffering.
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CODChimera posted:Me and a mate are going to the Nyx pre-release and it'll be the first time either of us have played at Magic event. Hopefully we don't screw up too much. 1) You will screw up frequently......its a prerelease so most people will, just call the judge whenever you are unsure of something, or if something doesn't make sense that either you are reading or the opponent is doing. If something feels shady, call a judge. 2)Your sealed deck should be 40 cards.....no more. There will be lots of new things you want to run, but keep your deck down to a manageable 40 cards. 3)Play 17 land in your 40 card deck, no more, no less. As you play in more events you will get a better feel for whether you have built a hyper-fast aggro deck that can run 16 lands, or a plodding control deck that needs 18. However, until you have played in more events, stick with 17. You may already know these things, but since it is prerelease season, I think a quick refresher for lurkers may be in order anyway.
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Also don't worry at all about screwing up. Pre-releases are the most chill of tournaments and if someone is acting like a jerk about how you're playing, rest assured that they're the rear end in a top hat, not you.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Back when Delver.dec was in vogue I had multiple people try to equip runepike on their phantasmal image. The best was when the image was copying my Phyrexian Obliterator so it wasn't a great idea even if it did work. Make Runechanter's Pike a core set staple. That card ruled so hard. I bet I'm one of very few people to have swung Talrand in for commander lethal.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:05
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AlternateNu posted:I had a guy swing a Polukranos and a Courser of Kruphix powered by a Domri Emblem into my lone Boros Reckoner while we were both at 5 life. He thought first strike and normal damage resolved before Reckoner's effect... So you still died? I don't get it.
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tgijsola posted:Also don't worry at all about screwing up. Pre-releases are the most chill of tournaments and if someone is acting like a jerk about how you're playing, rest assured that they're the rear end in a top hat, not you. I'm not allowed to be chilled at one of my LCS's Pre-releases Because first place gets a box of the set coming out and I really want that.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:10
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Jimmy Jazz posted:So you still died? I don't get it. (5 + 2 = 7) - 3 = 4. If his opponent was at 3 he wins with 1 life.
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Apr 17, 2014 18:15
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Procrastinator posted:(5 + 2 = 7) - 3 = 4. If his opponent was at 3 he wins with 1 life. And he said they were both at 5, so something doesn't add up.
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My worst rule feel bad happened to my friend last FNM. His 12/12 polukranos with trample swings in with boros reckoner, opponents says "rebound the 12 dmg, gg", obviously this is incorrect but the judge (who is opponent's friend) who was busy and wasn't really paying attention passed it by without looking it up and took him out of top 3 for decent prizes. Afterwards the judge checked and apologized but the damage was done. When you know more than the L2 judge and I have been playing for a few months then you know that something is fishy here, sigh.
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Procrastinator posted:(5 + 2 = 7) - 3 = 4. If his opponent was at 3 he wins with 1 life. Yeah but he said they were both at 5. Maybe they forgot domri emblem gives trample or something.
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Jimmy Jazz posted:So you still died? I don't get it. Me either. Even if he had blocked Poluk with Boros, he would have only been able to redirect 3 of the damage during the first strike combat phase since the Domri Emblem gives the Poluk trample. So he would take 2 damage from Poluk and 2 from Courser during the first strike combat phase and then 5 from Poluk and 2 from Courser during the regular combat phase. If he blocks the Courser, he takes 5 damage from the Poluk during the first strike combat phase and then dies. I don't see how he could have come out on top in that situation... Edit - even if he redirects into the Poluk to kill it during the first strike phase, it is 2 from Poluk and 2 from Courser in first strike phase and then 2 from Courser in regular combat phase. traslin fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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Jimmy Jazz posted:So you still died? I don't get it. It wasn't until afterwards that we both realized he still should've won. He thought (like I did) that Reckoner would bounce the full 5, but also thought that the bounce wouldn't resolve until the full attack was completed. It was a dual feel-bad because after explaining Reckoner's effect, I got the win completely forgetting that trample only assigns lethal damage. Edit: I didn't make that clear enough. tl;dr I'm really loving bad at Magic. 
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Toshimo posted:Teferi-Pool is a rather well-known ~EDH Combo~ and the way you are trying to razzle-dazzle it out is the worse way posiible and begs your opponents to just counter your Knowledge Pool. I run this combo in my Grand Arbiter deck. It is really nice when you get it out.
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Samael posted:My worst rule feel bad happened to my friend last FNM. This is incorrect because the trample damage applies first triggering the rebound but you've alraedy lost the game by that point before the damage trigger resolves? Just checking, I'm relatively new at Magic 
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Loving Life Partner posted:This is incorrect because the trample damage applies first triggering the rebound but you've alraedy lost the game by that point before the damage trigger resolves? No, his Reckoner can only rebound 3 damage because Polukranos does the rest to the Reckoner's owner, also combat damage should've resolved before the reckoner's ability goes on the stack. Because that's how trample works: Any extra damage a creature with trample does to another creature is instead done to the player.
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Oh right yeah, that's way more obvious. Durr.
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I've made tons of rules mistakes. Most of them are just noobish stuff though, like using Abrupt Decay on a D-sphere before the Exile ability resolves.Tardigrade posted:Strangely it seems like, after a quick search, there aren't any creatures that naturally have trample and deathtouch together (Cairns Wanderer doesn't count). I've died to a Deathtouch-Trample interaction and due to not realizing you can't just exile AEtherling after declaring blockers if the attacking creature has trample. I guess that's learning. Loving Life Partner posted:So someone can cast a counter even if the target spell is uncounterable? At least in paper magic? (I mostly play MTGO where I don't think the client would let you, because why would you?) I assure you the client will allow you to. It just won't work. I know because I once absentmindedly attempted to Gainsay a Supreme Verdict. I just lost the Gainsay along with the board wipe. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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Madmarker posted:Enjoy your first big Magic event. Thanks, that's really helpful to know. We're going to practice making and using 40 card decks next week. At the very least it's a good excuse to buy some boosters. I think I'll go for the blue prerelease pack. Love the Kraken artwork, but the Doomwake Giant looks great as well...
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Yeah my bad, I missed the 'both'.traslin posted:Edit - even if he redirects into the Poluk to kill it during the first strike phase, it is 2 from Poluk and 2 from Courser in first strike phase and then 2 from Courser in regular combat phase. Domri emblem gives hexproof, so even that isn't close to an out.
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haha, the  in this article's comments section is amazing.http://www.starcitygames.com/article/28312_Meet-The-Gods-Of-Nyx.html quote:Kruphix, God of Horizons
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So Eidolon of Rhetoric + Possibility Storm is a hard lock assuming no removal that turn for either?
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Anyone want to help me make a Eidolon of Rhetoric + Possibility Storm american control style type deck? I want to see if I can troll people at FNM after journey to nyx comes out. Edit: Korak, e:fb
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Korak posted:So Eidolon of Rhetoric + Possibility Storm is a hard lock assuming no removal that turn for either? It is a hard lock, but it's also symmetrical. 
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Loving Life Partner posted:So someone can cast a counter even if the target spell is uncounterable? At least in paper magic? (I mostly play MTGO where I don't think the client would let you, because why would you?) There is actually a relevant reason to do this in Standard, as Plasm Capture still gives you the mana from the spell even if it can't be countered. Plasm Capture a Supreme Verdict and cast a t5 Aetherling with the ability to protect itself.
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Tharizdun posted:It is a hard lock, but it's also symmetrical. Keranos + that combo = watch as you slowly bolt them to death?
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Samael posted:Keranos + that combo = watch as you slowly bolt them to death? Sounds like more janky patriot dickery.
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Samael posted:Anyone want to help me make a Eidolon of Rhetoric + Possibility Storm american control style type deck? I want to see if I can troll people at FNM after journey to nyx comes out.  Think keeping it simple W/R Control with 4 mutavaults and some boros keyrunes that can also help end the game or mana ramp. Any splashes should be for removal more than card draw. Keranos sounds awesome but I think I'd want to have the Combo set up asap. Korak fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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AnacondaHL posted:haha, the "Boo hoo hoo all these gods suck and I have one dimensional ways of evaluating cards."
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