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Sir_Substance
Dec 13, 2013

Collateral Damage posted:

Java the language is okay I guess. Java Runtime is a piece of poo poo that someone should loving hang for.

I've never had too many problems with Java as a desktop runtime environment, yes it's a security colander, but it essentially does what it needs to. Java as a web service platform, on the other hand, needs to die. Honestly, it's 2014, we have better options then Java for active web content, if you're developing a new web application in Java you can :fuckoff:

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Agrikk
Oct 17, 2003

Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.
Hadoop would like a word with you.

E: I suppose Hadoop isn't a web actually...

Lum
Aug 13, 2003

Judge Schnoopy posted:

You want coupons? You got em, plus DefaultTab, Conduit, BrowserSafeSearch, BetterSurf, 3 other proxy services, 2 spyware tools, and a rootkit to bring it all back if you uninstall! For free!!!

There was someone in the old thread whose wife loved the coupon programs, so he installed VMWare and showed her how to revert to the base snapshot.

This had the added bonus that those single-use-only coupon printers could now be made to produce multiple coupons

MisterOblivious
Mar 17, 2010

by sebmojo
They're also useful for those "Install this spyware and get free F2P gold!" offers some companies have.

diremonk
Jun 17, 2008

What I'm currently pissed off about is waiting on two more pieces of equipment to ship so that I can start actually move forward on our new master control layout. Between that and me ordering the wrong bnc connectors twice has put me behind schedule and I'm starting to go a bit crazy. But it has been therapeutic ripping out tons of old coax wires and tossing them before my coworker, who wants to save everything, can get his hands on them.

On a semi-related note, what do most people use to document their racks? Visio? AutoCAD? Documentation? I saw a demo of something called WireCAD last week and was kind of impressed by it but I'm not sure I can convince the bosses to spend $1800 on it.

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

I use Visio. Most companies give you all the pretty little template/icon packs.

Helushune
Oct 5, 2011

I have a machine running RackMonkey to keep track of our racks (because no one was doing it before I was hired) but it's pretty basic when compared to WireCAD. The guy also has a history of randomly abandoning any project he's working on and it hasn't been updated since 2009 but it works alright.

Wicaeed
Feb 8, 2005
Just learned that our awesome Network Engineer found a new job paying almost double what he's making here.

I'm pretty sure I'm getting vastly underpaid at this point :smith:

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Wicaeed posted:

Just learned that our awesome Network Engineer found a new job paying almost double what he's making here.

I'm pretty sure I'm getting vastly underpaid at this point :smith:

Is it under 40k and you aren't the helldesk? Congrats, you are underpaid in every state in the US.

Wicaeed
Feb 8, 2005
No to both, but this guy just went from 85k yr to over 150k w/insane benefits.

the spyder
Feb 18, 2011

Wicaeed posted:

Just learned that our awesome Network Engineer found a new job paying almost double what he's making here.

I'm pretty sure I'm getting vastly underpaid at this point :smith:

My former tech finally got a interview at a competitor. Pay range was $70-95k year for a Tier 1 Linux tech. What the hell. I don't make that as the IT Manager!?!?! It immediately made me feel like I should jump ship after getting my CCNA.

Wicaeed
Feb 8, 2005
I'm seriously considering getting out of this industry (mobile game publishing/mmo company) as the pay isn't worth it vs the benefits.

I miss working with well adjusted normal people

Qtotonibudinibudet
Nov 7, 2011



Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki
Someone posted a site to HN where people guess your salary based on your LinkedIn. It says I'm underpaid by about $35k.

Granted its all SV people with no concept of COL outside the bay area but still.

Mr. Clark2
Sep 17, 2003

Rocco sez: Oh man, what a bummer. Woof.

What's pissing me off today? .pdf files. I've got a pdf file that someone sent me via email. It displays properly with all the correct info when viewed using Outlook's preview button. Open it up in Adobe Pro or Reader...and it has completely different data. What the...?:iiam: I've tried opening it in Adobe Pro 6 and 9, and in Reader 10, it shows completely different name/etc. in all the fields, some fields are even blank, when viewed in Outlook, they have paragraphs of text. Weird as all gently caress.

Mattress Man
Apr 3, 2009

:dukedog:
Engineer messages me for help, says he's having weird video driver issues. I find that there is a newer driver and go over to his desk to install it. When I get there he asks me how long it will take, pulls out his phone, activates his stopwatch app, and says "I'm a busy guy". Then to top it off his boss comes over and starts giving me poo poo. I think its time to :yotj:

Bokito
Jul 25, 2007
Going Ape

Mr. Clark2 posted:

What's pissing me off today? .pdf files. I've got a pdf file that someone sent me via email. It displays properly with all the correct info when viewed using Outlook's preview button. Open it up in Adobe Pro or Reader...and it has completely different data. What the...?:iiam: I've tried opening it in Adobe Pro 6 and 9, and in Reader 10, it shows completely different name/etc. in all the fields, some fields are even blank, when viewed in Outlook, they have paragraphs of text. Weird as all gently caress.

The file is cached in the Outlook temp folder?

rolleyes
Nov 16, 2006

Sometimes you have to roll the hard... two?

Mattress Man posted:

Engineer messages me for help, says he's having weird video driver issues. I find that there is a newer driver and go over to his desk to install it. When I get there he asks me how long it will take, pulls out his phone, activates his stopwatch app, and says "I'm a busy guy". Then to top it off his boss comes over and starts giving me poo poo. I think its time to :yotj:

"I work faster when I'm left alone"


Fake edit: what a pair of arseholes.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

Mattress Man posted:

Engineer messages me for help, says he's having weird video driver issues. I find that there is a newer driver and go over to his desk to install it. When I get there he asks me how long it will take, pulls out his phone, activates his stopwatch app, and says "I'm a busy guy". Then to top it off his boss comes over and starts giving me poo poo. I think its time to :yotj:

Giving you poo poo how? Just bitching about how slow the lowly IT drone is or something specific? Why aren't you calling them on their bullshit to their faces? You can be professional about it: "Hey guys, I know you're busy and this problem is causing downtime. That's why I'm here. I'll be out of your hair fastest if you leave me to it, and I'll be sure to update your ticket/update you when I'm through :haw:"

Or you can unleash your righteous anger and tell them that they have no call to treat you this way, and that you are trying to help but none of what they are doing is making the process go any faster and will likely slow it down. You can be stern but calm when taking this approach. Like an adult talking to another adult that is just a little bit out of line (you know... ignoring the fact that people like that never really grew out of high school).

Either way someone's probably going to get their little ego bruised, but unless you completely fly off the handle and start cursing them out, the worst you're probably going to have to endure later is a talking-to about attitude or insubordination or one of the other words that shithead directors like to use when one of their serfs isn't getting quite enough of a manager's dick down their throat. At which point you can tell THEM that you are perfectly willing to listen to constructive criticism but that randomly coming up to you and giving you garbage you don't deserve does not fall into this category.

If you're contemplating leaving anyway, this is the best time to practice standing up for yourself. Because odds are very, very small that you'll find a workplace where there isn't somebody that treats you like a doormat, and they only DO that if you show them that you ARE one.

Che Delilas fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Apr 18, 2014

angry armadillo
Jul 26, 2010
Yesterdays Consultant drama was a interesting one.

Our customer wants to pen-test our network, so Consultant wants our main software provider to provide engineers on site to fix any issues with the software if they get picked up in the pen-test.

I said what would they be doing? If there is any configuration issues I can do it, if there is any coding changes there is no way they can fix it.

But we should have them on site 'just incase'

No - I have support days which have been purchased for training, I am not wasting them to have them just sit here and drink coffee... if the pen tester finds a fault with Microsoft Word you better call MS and see if they will send a couple of guys down because that is what you are saying!

Project Owner sided with Consultant because his attitude is always 'if there is resource to be had, I'll just have it without thinking'

In the end we decided not to bring them in but geez, it's like the Consultant has caused so much panic he can ask for whatever he wants and Project Owner won't challenge him!

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?
Consultant is a fool for wasting client's budget on stupid things like that, when Consultant could be saving client's budget for a useful change order.

Or, you know: just being a good custodian of others' money. Not spending OPM is apparently hard for some people, though.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

:10bux: says the consultant was getting a kickback from the software provider.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Mattress Man posted:

Engineer messages me for help, says he's having weird video driver issues. I find that there is a newer driver and go over to his desk to install it. When I get there he asks me how long it will take, pulls out his phone, activates his stopwatch app, and says "I'm a busy guy". Then to top it off his boss comes over and starts giving me poo poo. I think its time to :yotj:

I used to make note the elapsed time anything that was classed as 'downtime' that prevented me from working, but only so I can write the stoppage in my timesheets. Ones that I had to account for every 6 minutes.

I also had to do a daily rundown, which pissed me off - read the drat timesheet, it has job codes and information as I wrote it.

But that guy using a stopwatch and being passive aggressive towards you is just loving douchebag behavior.

Roargasm
Oct 21, 2010

Hate to sound sleazy
But tease me
I don't want it if it's that easy

Mattress Man posted:

Engineer messages me for help, says he's having weird video driver issues. I find that there is a newer driver and go over to his desk to install it. When I get there he asks me how long it will take, pulls out his phone, activates his stopwatch app, and says "I'm a busy guy". Then to top it off his boss comes over and starts giving me poo poo. I think its time to :yotj:

That awkward moment when you forget to download a file in advance and you have to sit in someone's office making small talk while you pull a 150 meg printer driver over http

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Roargasm posted:

That awkward moment when you forget to download a file in advance and you have to sit in someone's office making small talk while you pull a 150 meg printer driver over http

At a branch office with a T1.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Bob Morales posted:

At a branch office with a T1.
I did this yesterday morning, and got a call that there must have been a power outage at that location :v:

Mr. Clark2
Sep 17, 2003

Rocco sez: Oh man, what a bummer. Woof.

Bokito posted:

The file is cached in the Outlook temp folder?

I considered that but I cleared the cache, also the exact same thing happens on 3 separate computers. I've seen a lot of weird poo poo with pdf files but this is the first time I've seen this.

Feral Bueller
Apr 23, 2004

Fun is important.
Nap Ghost

Humphreys posted:

But that guy using a stopwatch and being passive aggressive towards you is just loving douchebag behavior.

1. Tell him you'll be happy to work on it when he's not at his desk, thus reducing his downtime.

2. Tell his manager if he has any complaints to take it up with your manager.


The second one bothers me far more than the first.

<rant>
When that happens to my direct reports, I go all the way up the line with it. You are part of a service organization -- that does not give anyone the right to treat you like a vending machine. gently caress that.

If your manager isn't clear on that, gently caress that as well. Take it to HR. If your HR organization doesn't address it, get out posthaste.
</rant>

meanieface
Mar 27, 2012

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
I took the day off because Good Friday.

One of the users sent me a text message at 8:00 a.m. asking where I was. You filed a ticket? Affecting production? How nice for you. It's my day off. :fuckoff:

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

meanieface posted:

I took the day off because Good Friday.

One of the users sent me a text message at 8:00 a.m. asking where I was. You filed a ticket? Affecting production? How nice for you. It's my day off. :fuckoff:

I think its always better to not respond. Why do users have your cell number? I hope its at least a company paid phone.

Smoke
Mar 12, 2005

I am NOT a red Bumblebee for god's sake!

Gun Saliva
This is why I hate having to use KIES for my phone occasionally:



I mean what in the hell.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
FREE TIBET WEED

Smoke posted:

This is why I hate having to use KIES for my phone occasionally:



I mean what in the hell.

Does it proceed to "Reticulating Splines"?

meanieface
Mar 27, 2012

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Sickening posted:

I think its always better to not respond. Why do users have your cell number? I hope its at least a company paid phone.

Because when they file a ticket before or after my working hours, the number I call back on is my cell. Once one person had it, they suddenly all had it.

And yes, I realize it's dumb to work unpaid OT and be somewhere that thinks BYOD means you foot the cell bill and they don't have to compensate you.

I want to :yotj: so hard. All the leads I have so far are out of town, and my kid's school is a magical unicorn so I'm still looking. Blah.

Fake edit: I love my kid's school, and haven't been able to find one elsewhere that we like half as much. So I'm restricted geographically.

meanieface fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Apr 18, 2014

Docjowles
Apr 9, 2009

Scumbag coworker: makes production change at 4:50PM on Friday. Brings down a couple hundred VM's literally as I am closing my laptop to gently caress off for the weekend.

:guinness:

(To his credit he's fixing it, I'm just sticking around as support if needed)

Mattress Man
Apr 3, 2009

:dukedog:
We are doing a remodel in our Honolulu office and the CIO just happened to take a look at the CAD drawings since it involves moving the servers to a new room. Turns out the power for the room runs off the kitchen's GFI circuit. Our electrical engineering principal stamped the drawings and told us "it saves a couple of hundred bucks, plus we are only going to be there another year or two anyway, so who cares?" If thats the case then why are we spending over $400k to remodel the place?

BurgerQuest
Mar 17, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

diremonk posted:

What I'm currently pissed off about is waiting on two more pieces of equipment to ship so that I can start actually move forward on our new master control layout. Between that and me ordering the wrong bnc connectors twice has put me behind schedule and I'm starting to go a bit crazy. But it has been therapeutic ripping out tons of old coax wires and tossing them before my coworker, who wants to save everything, can get his hands on them.

On a semi-related note, what do most people use to document their racks? Visio? AutoCAD? Documentation? I saw a demo of something called WireCAD last week and was kind of impressed by it but I'm not sure I can convince the bosses to spend $1800 on it.

I find http://racktables.org/ pretty good for SNMP integration and basic IPM too, plus rack layout management/tracking ofcourse.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Sickening posted:

I think its always better to not respond. Why do users have your cell number? I hope its at least a company paid phone.

A loving salesman tried to call me on my cell after 5 today for an update on a project. The nerve of these people.

MC Fruit Stripe
Nov 26, 2002

around and around we go

AlternateAccount posted:

A loving salesman tried to call me on my cell after 5 today for an update on a project. The nerve of these people.
Yup. I got an email at 6pm tonight asking to be removed from a distribution group, and another email at 10pm reminding me to remove him from the distro. First of all, why are you emailing me this? Second of all, 6pm and 10pm on a Friday night, really?

My reply to his email, sent moments before this reply, was in toto: "Friday night, family night. This has been completed." Siiiigh.

e: And I know I am going to get poo poo for this mentality, but I knocked it out tonight rather than tomorrow or Monday or sent him to the help desk because, "well, I'll be sitting down at the computer tonight anyway". The amount of free work our companies get out of us because we use our computers for non-work stuff and it's sometimes convenient to click a few buttons on a work project...

MC Fruit Stripe fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Apr 19, 2014

angry armadillo
Jul 26, 2010

Collateral Damage posted:

:10bux: says the consultant was getting a kickback from the software provider.

Nah, he is pissing them off if anything by demanding loads of stuff they have never been required to produce.

My boss said not to spend the money on having anyone on site and project owner made sure if it all goes wrong it was my boss that made that call!

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Docjowles posted:

Scumbag coworker: makes production change at 4:50PM on Friday. Brings down a couple hundred VM's literally as I am closing my laptop to gently caress off for the weekend.

:guinness:

(To his credit he's fixing it, I'm just sticking around as support if needed)
Could be worse. I got a pile of Nagios alerts about an hour before I was supposed to leave to, uh, get married. I got it before the people who were working that day, who apparently got blindsided by one of our network engineers breaking a whole rack group worth of switches, triggering isolation response, and killing most of the VMs on our network. Got it back up before someone called me with "you're gonna kill me, but," so I was able to shout "IT'S FIXED ALREADY" and hang up the phone.

Fuckin' IT people on Fridays, man, I don't know what it is.

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GOOCHY
Sep 17, 2003

In an interstellar burst I'm back to save the universe!

Misogynist posted:

Could be worse. I got a pile of Nagios alerts about an hour before I was supposed to leave to, uh, get married. I got it before the people who were working that day, who apparently got blindsided by one of our network engineers breaking a whole rack group worth of switches, triggering isolation response, and killing most of the VMs on our network. Got it back up before someone called me with "you're gonna kill me, but," so I was able to shout "IT'S FIXED ALREADY" and hang up the phone.

Fuckin' IT people on Fridays, man, I don't know what it is.

Congrats on getting married!

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