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upsciLLion posted:You can haul more stuff in most any crap-box car than you can on light rail, so being opposed to light rail because you're scared of poors is dumb. 2 cars were stolen out of our complex in the past 12 months. That we know of. It's the sort of place where the management doesn't announce such things because the appearance of perfection is more important than everything else. At some point someone tried to crowbar open our front door. We're in one of those idealistic cookie cutter east Vancouver neighborhoods. Lightrail 
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size1one posted:2 cars were stolen out of our complex in the past 12 months. That we know of. It's the sort of place where the management doesn't announce such things because the appearance of perfection is more important than everything else. At some point someone tried to crowbar open our front door. We're in one of those idealistic cookie cutter east Vancouver neighborhoods. Lightrail In our Orchards suburb, we had a battery stolen out of our travel trailer, and some of the fences by the park have been tagged but overall this is a pretty nice place to live... 
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I just met with a couple organizers for the Portland branch of Socialist Alternative last night to get involved. Apparently it's a small chapter currently, less than a dozen members, but that just motivates me more to be involved  And for you PDX'ers, Kshama Sawant is going to be speaking here next Thursday. Also, Portland's (hopefully) own SA success story, Nick Caleb, will be speaking there as well.
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http://www.geekwire.com/2014/ride-sharing-petition-seattle/ Ride sharing caps are gone! gently caress you taxi industry.
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Cultural Imperial posted:http://www.geekwire.com/2014/ride-sharing-petition-seattle/ Oh good. I heard on the radio that the mayor was trying to talk them out of it. I also agree gently caress taxis, they are all assholes and they even get their own special parking and they yell at me when I stop there for even a couple seconds to meet a courier.
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Reason posted:Oh good. I heard on the radio that the mayor was trying to talk them out of it. I also agree gently caress taxis, they are all assholes and they even get their own special parking and they yell at me when I stop there for even a couple seconds to meet a courier.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:I've never been clear on how Lyft and UberX are something different than normal gypsy cabs. They're dynamically adaptive for a 21st century eco-conscious future.
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You ever tried to get a taxi in the middle of nowhere? Ever left wondering where the gently caress it is after standing around for an hour? That never happens with uber/lyft/sidecar.
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Cultural Imperial posted:You ever tried to get a taxi in the middle of nowhere? Ever left wondering where the gently caress it is after standing around for an hour? Ever had a taxi driver tell you "oh, sorry, the credit card reader is broken," right up until you tell them "sorry, I don't have cash, so I guess I won't be paying," at which point it magically starts to work again? Don't have to worry about that, since I pay through the app. Like, I get why taxi drivers are upset, because it sucks to lose a regulatory monopoly, but gently caress those guys and their lovely service.
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Cultural Imperial posted:http://www.geekwire.com/2014/ride-sharing-petition-seattle/ Considering that the totality of the current 'Taxi Industry' regulations are based on last-century assumptions about Airport-to-Downtown traffic (y'know, the only thing that Light Rail DOES right now), the whole system is due to have a massive overhaul sooner than later.
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Raymn posted:the tools in the Seattle subreddit have it all figured out. ... If only they would run leaner we wouldn't have this problem!!!!11
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Gerund posted:Considering that the totality of the current 'Taxi Industry' regulations are based on last-century assumptions about Airport-to-Downtown traffic (y'know, the only thing that Light Rail DOES right now), the whole system is due to have a massive overhaul sooner than later. The current taxi regulations suck, but that doesn't mean that the unregulated, exploitative mess that is Lyft/Sidecar/UberX should be the replacement.
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Reason posted:Oh good. I heard on the radio that the mayor was trying to talk them out of it. I also agree gently caress taxis, they are all assholes and they even get their own special parking and they yell at me when I stop there for even a couple seconds to meet a courier. Don't forget all the times these assholes are using the carpool lanes with no passengers.
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Space Gopher posted:The current taxi regulations suck, but that doesn't mean that the unregulated, exploitative mess that is Lyft/Sidecar/UberX should be the replacement. This is what I keep coming to. There was an article in Vallywag about how Uber was artificially jacking up surge pricing, and they're all dodging taxes and regulations like basic calibration/certification of their distance measuring tools. I know that sounds like pedantic poo poo, but that's why we can trust a scale in the grocery store, or a gas pump.
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Seattle Times kinda making GBS threads all over Boeing lately: http://seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/2023383110_boeingbrtxml.html http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2023364087_westneat13xml.html TL;DR: Following a year with record profits for Boeing, the legislature gave them a $9 billion (that's $9,000,000,000) kickback to add 750 jobs to the region. Boeing is proceeding to take the money, then lay off 1000 different people and move their jobs to the South. The legislature could respond to this punitively, but won't, because the paltry handful of millions they spend on lobbying is the single best investment they make, in terms of ROI. Unsurprisingly, this move has caused morale at the company among everyone except the executives to drop precipitously.
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They're taking any and all steps to break the unions, pure and simple.
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Thanatosian posted:TL;DR: Following a year with record profits for Boeing, the legislature gave them a $9 billion (that's $9,000,000,000) kickback to add 750 jobs to the region. Boeing is proceeding to take the money, then lay off 1000 different people and move their jobs to the South. The legislature could respond to this punitively, but won't, because the paltry handful of millions they spend on lobbying is the single best investment they make, in terms of ROI. Unsurprisingly, this move has caused morale at the company among everyone except the executives to drop precipitously. The inability of the United States to establish consistent tax policy, combined with legalized political corruption, is quickly proving to be one of the biggest national challenges in our modern era. So many of our social and fiscal problems stem from this systemic failure. Kaal fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Apr 18, 2014 |
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Apr 18, 2014 18:27
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BraveUlysses posted:They're taking any and all steps to break the unions, pure and simple. Yeah, the only reason the Times isn't congratulating them is because they're going to lose some subscribers.
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Thanatosian posted:$9 billion ... The legislature could respond to this punitively
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And do what? They've shown that they're willing to put the whole company at risk to strangle the unions.
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I'm not even sure Boeing doing this has actual business benefits. The move is ideological, based on the idea that workers do not deserve to have a say, and they should take what they are given with no complaint. Starbucks and Costco have already proved that treating workers decently and making profits are not mutually exclusive, so when the Boeing executives pull this poo poo, it's because they're Randian shitlords. Losing public support and wrecking employee morale comes with its own costs.
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Bunch of the Unions are gathering at Seattle City Hall on the 23rd in support on the 15 dollar minimum wage. Gonna be attending as part of IATSE Local 15 and getting some sweet sweet volunteer hours so I can move up the call list! Oh and supporting raising the minimum wage I guess.
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Spatula City posted:I'm not even sure Boeing doing this has actual business benefits. The move is ideological, based on the idea that workers do not deserve to have a say, and they should take what they are given with no complaint. Starbucks and Costco have already proved that treating workers decently and making profits are not mutually exclusive, so when the Boeing executives pull this poo poo, it's because they're Randian shitlords. Losing public support and wrecking employee morale comes with its own costs. Are you implying that Starbucks treats its employees well? I worked at Starbucks. poo poo pay, poo poo healthcare, they offer stock instead of cash for payment but most Starbucks employees make minimum wage so even if you put money into it then you aren't paying rent or buying yourself food. I got fired because one day I wasn't super smiley and happy because I literally climbed a mountain the day before. They gently caress with your tips so if you do an extra good job and someone tips you well because you did a good job you have to split that poo poo with everyone else who works there. If Starbucks is the bar for decent then that bar is really loving low. Starbucks is a lovely employer. Oh yea, they tried to contest my unemployment by saying I had done misconduct at work to get fired, but the judge ruled against them because they are loving idiots. They are also extremely anti-union or anything that puts any power into the hands of employees. quote:Comparatively, yes. I mean, they offer the same benefits package to their retail employees as they do to their corporate HQ employees so at the very least they're treat all of their employees as equals. This is pretty much marketing, they say this poo poo all the time and people believe it and go to Starbucks and buy lovely coffee thinking they're getting anything but overpriced fast food. If they treat their corporate employees the same as they treat their retail I feel really, really sorry for people who end up there. Doorknob Slobber fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Apr 19, 2014 |
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Reason posted:Are you implying that Starbucks treats its employees well? Comparatively, yes. I mean, they offer the same benefits package to their retail employees as they do to their corporate HQ employees so at the very least they're treat all of their employees as equals. They also encourage promotion from within and it's not unheard of for people to jump from retail to a corporate role.
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Spatula City posted:I'm not even sure Boeing doing this has actual business benefits. The move is ideological, based on the idea that workers do not deserve to have a say, and they should take what they are given with no complaint. Starbucks and Costco have already proved that treating workers decently and making profits are not mutually exclusive, so when the Boeing executives pull this poo poo, it's because they're Randian shitlords. Losing public support and wrecking employee morale comes with its own costs. Well most of it chasing smokestack development since the competing cities are offering big relocation packages despite Boeing already pocketing 9 billion years from Washington state.
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etalian posted:Well most of it chasing smokestack development since the competing cities are offering big relocation packages despite Boeing already pocketing 9 billion years from Washington state.
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Jim McNerney, CO of Boeing has made it his goal to not get bullied by the unions again after the IAM's last strike. This means putting the company at risk and destroying morale then so be it. He's also initiated "Partnering for Success" (it's a corporate version of No Child Left Behind) with his suppliers essentially telling suppliers if they don't drop their cost by 15% then they won't be given any future work and will place the work into the hands of untested suppliers. The GE management style is totally hosed.
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Boeing's management has gone completely crazy. They're going to wreck everything good about the company.
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seiferguy posted:Jim McNerney, CO of Boeing has made it his goal to not get bullied by the unions again after the IAM's last strike. This means putting the company at risk and destroying morale then so be it. The best part of this is when the untested new suppliers turn out to be total fuckups, Boeing invests millions of top-tier manufacturing process R&D into those suppliers, for free, and then doesn't count it as a cost of outsourcing production. MR&D stuff used to be some of the most closely held trade secrets the company had. After all, any decent machinist, composite fabricator, etc can make a single aerospace-grade part. The really difficult thing is building and testing them fast and cheap enough to turn out marketable airplanes. Now, they're literally giving it away, just to gently caress with the unions. The rational Randian supermen are burning the company to the ground out of spite.
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So is the wall blocking the dirty Tacoma masses going to get fast tracked now that they're all getting fired from their boeing jobs?
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Space Gopher posted:The best part of this is when the untested new suppliers turn out to be total fuckups, Boeing invests millions of top-tier manufacturing process R&D into those suppliers, for free, and then doesn't count it as a cost of outsourcing production. MR&D stuff used to be some of the most closely held trade secrets the company had. After all, any decent machinist, composite fabricator, etc can make a single aerospace-grade part. The really difficult thing is building and testing them fast and cheap enough to turn out marketable airplanes. Now, they're literally giving it away, just to gently caress with the unions. The rational Randian supermen are burning the company to the ground out of spite. It brings to mind the hilarious bad management at Sears in which the CEO tried using Ayn Rand principles to make the company run better with predictable results.
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etalian posted:It brings to mind the hilarious bad management at Sears in which the CEO tried using Ayn Rand principles to make the company run better with predictable results. That guy is a loving nietzschean superman. http://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/ayn_rand_loving_ceo_destroys_his_empire_partner/ I love this story.
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Cultural Imperial posted:That guy is a loving nietzschean superman. http://www.salon.com/2013/12/10/ayn_rand_loving_ceo_destroys_his_empire_partner/ My fav story is how he created a fake alt account for the company's internal facebook knockoff and used it to troll/spy on subordinates in his spare time.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:That and Boeing knows that no matter how bad they gently caress up the government will bail them out, so they may as well go for it.
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I cant find the article I posted years ago... but it might have been one chapter in the (still ongoing) Santa Susanna fiasco. The well-crafted silence theyve maintained over this one (over decades) is impressive. Even if you live near it you may not be that familiar with it. http://www.neontommy.com/news/2011/01/santa-susana-nuclear-site-finally-path-clean-its-toxic-mess quote:It’s only a 45-minute drive from downtown Los Angeles to reach one of the most toxic hills in the country - a vivid case study of the chaos that ensues when scientific hubris meets corporate carelessness. http://unearthme.com/story121011.html quote:Explosive waste was loaded into barrels, and then workers would shoot them to blow up the contents. This was leftover waste from liquid propellents used in ballistic missile tests, and was extremely dangerous to handle. Barrels were dumped into sludge ponds, and then detonated with rifle shots, and the ensuing explosions and flames would be spread over the basin area. Most of the time these kind of burn operations took place at night, to reduce the public's knowledge of its occurrence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Susana_Field_Laboratory#Sodium_burn_pits quote:The sodium burn pit, an open-air pit for cleaning sodium-contaminated components, was also contaminated when radioactively and chemically contaminated items were burned in it, in contravention of safety requirements. In an article in the Ventura County Star, James Palmer, a former SSFL worker was interviewed. The article notes that "of the 27 men on Palmer's crew, 22 died of cancers." On some nights Palmer returned home from work and kissed "his wife [hello], only to burn her lips with the chemicals he had breathed at work." The report also noted that "During their breaks, Palmer's crew would fish in one of three ponds ... The men would use a solution that was 90 percent hydrogen peroxide to neutralize the contamination. Sometimes, the water was so polluted it bubbled. The fish died off." Palmer's interview ended on a somber note: "They had seven wells up there, water wells, and every drat one of them was contaminated," Palmer said, "It was a horror story." http://www.enviroreporter.com/hotzone quote:(1959) http://www.presstelegram.com/technology/20091114/boeing-sues-state-over-strict-rocketdyne-cleanup-law http://www.thefreelibrary.com/BOEING+SEEKS+EASIER+LAB+CLEANUP+SUIT+AIMS+TO+TOPPLE+LAW,+SET+ASIDE...-a0216926107 quote:The majority owner of the Santa Susana Field Laboratory filed suit Friday in the U.S. district court in Sacramento to scuttle a state law requiring the highest cleanup standards at one of the nation's most polluted sites. http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Judge-Sides-With-Boeing-in-Rocket-Site-Cleanup-120867799.html quote:(2011) http://www.enviroreporter.com/2012/12/greenwashing-rocketdyne/all/1/ quote:(2012) Local press has followed this 50 year long technopunk crime drama for years: http://www.vcreporter.com/cms/story/detail/greenwashing_rocketdyne/10524/ http://www.vcreporter.com/cms/story/detail/rocketdyne_still_hot/9658/ http://www.vcreporter.com/cms/story/detail/simi_we_have_a_problem/6700/ http://www.vcreporter.com/cms/story/detail/rocketdyne_nightmares/6106/
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Only one of Oregon's congressional districts is going to be competitive this cycle: OR-5, which includes the Salem area, the mid-Willamette valley, the central coast, and the south Portland suburbs. It supposedly has a CPVI that is exactly even, and is represented by Kurt Schrader, who seems to be the dullest of centrist Democrats. But the Republicans don't seem to have put up a serious candidate: none of the three people running for office there seems to have any governmental experience. I know it is not the most exciting political story, but I think it is interesting.
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Schrader seems to get along with his rural constituency pretty well (I think he was previously a farmer so I suppose that helps). My farming in laws all like him well enough, but they're all pretty lefty anyway. With Art Robinson as the republican party chair for the state, I can't wait to see how inept they become. I ran into a friend who is a well connected lobbyist (hotel & restaurant association) that is a Republican. Since we hadn't seen each other in a year or so we mostly did the talk about kids thing. After the fact I kicked myself in the rear end for not asking about Robinson.
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Kaal posted:Very true, and it's an enduring problem. The public has to have a way to defend itself from these right-wing cop unions that are actively sabotaging any attempts at reform and burying anyone that gets in their way: http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/reform-in-reverse/Content?oid=19281433 I finally got around to finishing this article (I only read The Stranger while commuting), and goddamn; goddamn. They really don't like Ed Murray; the article is half totally making GBS threads on him, and half super-sloppy blowjob on Mike McGinn. I seem to recall McGinn not being anywhere near as cooperative with the feds as they're portraying him. Honestly, I don't think there's a huge amount of difference between the two of them; they're both SPOG's bitch.
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