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Geektox posted:From Wikipedia: This is mostly correct, but only two cameras have ever cared about the maximum aperture post/lug on AI lenses, those being the FA and the F4. It's probably not coincidental that those are the only two cameras that have plug-and-play Matrix metering with AI lenses.
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grack posted:The basic tradeoff you're going to make with a superzoom-type camera is image quality vs. zoom length. Now, the FZ200 will by no means be bad, but you're going to give up a couple of levels of high ISO usage as well as detail to something like a Micro 4/3rds camera, which has a substantially larger sensor. On the other hand, a 600mm F2.8 equivalent lens would be impossible to replicate on an interchangeable lens camera within your budget. So what camera(s) would you recommend me looking at? This is a question I am asking anyone who wants to chime in. What price range would I be looking at to purchase a lens with similar abilities to the FZ200?
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Moonbloodsflow posted:So what camera(s) would you recommend me looking at? This is a question I am asking anyone who wants to chime in. What price range would I be looking at to purchase a lens with similar abilities to the FZ200? Half the issue is that you can't really a comparable lens for m4/3 or any other mount worth talking about. You can get superzooms (that still, even at their superzoomiest, are going to be half the maximum focal length of the FZ's), but they'll be slow as gently caress at the long and and probably terrible. poo poo like the FZ's lens falls under "stuff you can only really get away with if your sensor is tiny."
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Calumet Photographic is having a liquidation sale following their bankruptcy. All their stock is 10-40% off, including the stuff that they used to rent out. YMMV, but if you have one near where you live it might be good to go check it out if you're thinking about getting anything. I'm heading out this weekend.
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Chekans 3 16 posted:Calumet Photographic is having a liquidation sale following their bankruptcy. All their stock is 10-40% off, including the stuff that they used to rent out. YMMV, but if you have one near where you live it might be good to go check it out if you're thinking about getting anything. I'm heading out this weekend. I wish I did, the thought of a camera store closeout gives me half a stalk. I have it in me that I need a new tripod and it has to be carbon fiber, and I really don't know why. Maybe because ... shiny things.
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Chekans 3 16 posted:Calumet Photographic is having a liquidation sale following their bankruptcy. All their stock is 10-40% off, including the stuff that they used to rent out. YMMV, but if you have one near where you live it might be good to go check it out if you're thinking about getting anything. I'm heading out this weekend.
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Moonbloodsflow posted:So what camera(s) would you recommend me looking at? This is a question I am asking anyone who wants to chime in. What price range would I be looking at to purchase a lens with similar abilities to the FZ200? I'm gonna join the dogpile here - if you like photography and want more control over your shots, interchangeable-lens is the only way to go. If you just want something that's good enough to take holiday snaps, get a bridge camera. From there it totally depends on how you're going to use it. If you want something small and light, mirrorless is the way to go. If you want extremely long battery life and fast autofocus, get a SLR. Don't obsess about the long end you're missing on an interchangeable-lens camera relative to the FZ200. It's gonna be pretty much garbage. While it's less convenient, you will be much much better off buying some kind of 70-300mm long zoom than trying to cram everything into one lens. The crop factor will put the 70-300 right back up to the equivalent focal length of the FZ200. If you really want long lenses that's actually one use-case for the Pentax Q. A Nikkor 105/2.5 is going to put you right back up in the 550mm equivalent range and if you don't stop down it will probably greatly exceed the FZ200's quality. On its own it's kind of garbage though.
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Apr 16, 2014 23:28
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Chekans 3 16 posted:Calumet Photographic is having a liquidation sale following their bankruptcy. All their stock is 10-40% off, including the stuff that they used to rent out. YMMV, but if you have one near where you live it might be good to go check it out if you're thinking about getting anything. I'm heading out this weekend. I got that email too but they forgot to include a date and time. I will probably check out the store near me to see if anything is worth it. 10-40% doesn't really make my toes curl but given photography It will probably be cleaned out before they do any serious markdowns. It would be great for people looking for a big purchase if they haven't already cleared out the high ticket items. I would love to pick up a case for my lights and possibly some background stands or sweeps
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Apr 17, 2014 00:04
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Any information for the Rockville location?
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Huxley posted:Here's a video linked from that one that has the guy not actually knock the glass out but just remove that element all together. I think I'll go that route rather than making a mess. Update. Works exactly as advertised, obviously. Mine was the Mark 1 version of that lens, and didn't even have the screws. The whole front element just twisted about half an inch and popped off. Also I beat on the front glass with a hammer and screwdriver as firmly as I felt comfortable and didn't make a dent in it.
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Apr 17, 2014 00:55
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Chill Callahan posted:Any information for the Rockville location?  Here's the ad going around, Rockville is listed as one of the stores liquidating. I called the Santa Ana location and they already have the discount in effect.
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Remember to check out the actual prices before you go in an think "deals!" The people operating the liquidation is probably an outside operator and they often jack prices up very briefly then drop the 40%. During the circuit city shut down, some of the "deals" were more expensive than at the best buy across the street.
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Apr 17, 2014 02:23
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Drats, nearest store to me is NYC. Although I could hop a train after work on Friday...
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Apr 17, 2014 02:48
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Not sure if this is the right thread, but does anyone have experience with jammed cable shutter releases? I'm using a Nikon-branded remote shutter and it's worked fine for the past two months, but today when I fired a shot it didn't retract as normal. I can reliably turn the screw on the trigger part to retract it manually, but it doesn't seem to ever come back by itself now. There might also be a slight lag but that might be my imagination. Is this an easy fix or am I better off getting another one? This one was sold to me as the "Rolls Royce of shutter releases" so I'm a bit miffed it's broken already... [edit: worked it out, super easy fix. A screw near the trigger had come loose and was preventing it from retracting somehow. rohan fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Apr 17, 2014 |
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Alright so I'm looking at Canon T3i, Nikon D3300, Pentax K-50. Anyone have any other suggestions? Advice? I was originally looking at the Panasonic FZ200 and am still considering it as well. I'm not partial to any brand, I just want the most for my money.
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Moonbloodsflow posted:Alright so I'm looking at Canon T3i, Nikon D3300, Pentax K-50. Anyone have any other suggestions? Advice? I was originally looking at the Panasonic FZ200 and am still considering it as well. I'm not partial to any brand, I just want the most for my money. What are you going to do with it? If you are going to do a lot of outdoorsy stuff with it, the weathersealing on Pentax could be a good feature. Also all of their bodies have in-sensor stabilizing, which is cheaper but less effective than building it into the lens, but applies to anything you mount on it. Certain bodies can also use the shoe-mounted GPS tracker plus the sensor stabilizer to do long-exposure astrophotography, which is really cool. Otherwise I'd lean towards Nikon at this point. They have a better line of consumer gear (particularly the 35/1.8 DX, which Canon doesn't have a good equivalent for) and Canon is beginning to lag pretty heavily in sensor tech.
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Paul MaudDib posted:What are you going to do with it? I have nothing in particular I plan to shoot. LIFE? I want to go out and explore. I want to film some interviews with people. I mean I'm just trying to get something to figure out what I want to do. It's hard because I don't know where to begin, let alone where I'll end. I'm planning a trip across the country on my dual sport. Maybe even down to south america and I'd like to document it. If there are other cameras I should be considering, tell me and I'll check them out. I'd just like to find something to get started and go from there. I don't want to make a bad investment but I'm not in a situation where I won't be able to afford lenses or upgrades. Money is not really an issue, I'm just trying to be sensible. I keep looking at more expensive cameras but I just don't know enough about this stuff to justify ANY of the features or know what they would mean to me. I'm not an idiot, I just have never explored photography.
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Paul MaudDib posted:Otherwise I'd lean towards Nikon at this point. They have a better line of consumer gear (particularly the 35/1.8 DX, which Canon doesn't have a good equivalent for) and Canon is beginning to lag pretty heavily in sensor tech. On the other hand, Canon has a vastly larger market share meaning that there is a ton more stuff available on the used market for cheaper. The difference in sensor tech is largely irrelevant to a beginner (or most pros for that matter).
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Paul MaudDib posted:What are you going to do with it? This is his earlier post that might've got lost in the shuffle: Moonbloodsflow posted:This is difficult for me since I don't know really what I want to do. What I want is pretty generic. I'm mostly just wanting something to learn on and explore with. So..without really knowing what I'm talking about... It seems like you're leaning for heavily towards video, the Pentax stuff isn't super great in terms of video, from my experience, which admittedly is only with the more lower-end models. I'd still maintain that a M4/3 camera might be best for you. The GH series from Panasonic has good video, the EM series from Olympus has weather sealing, and both are light and portable. Plus with the smaller sensor you'll get that longer reach when you need it for wildlife without the picture looking like garbage. There's lots of lenses to choose from, and with two companies invested in it it's not going anywhere any time soon. Get that 14mm pancake or even the bodycap fisheye, one of the 25mm primes, and some kinda telephoto zoom and you'll be good to go. The DSLRs would be OK if they weren't so chunky. How much space do you have in this motorcycle of yours?
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A weather sealed Pentax something or other would be a great way to go for adventure riding type situation. You'll probably want to take photos in the elements and I imaging there'll be plenty of dust around. Never really hear about shooting video on them though—I don't think they're bad like the Fuji's but it'd be worth doing some investigation to see if it's up to what you'd want. Edit: didn't see the above post before writing mine. I'd second the MFT recommendation if Pentax's video turns out to be not so hot. And that's the only way you're likely to get serviceable 600mm equivalent lenses for not a fortune.
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Pentax video is okay at this point. It isn't great since you don't get autofocus while shooting video, but you get full 1080p with pretty much the entire line-up. At this point it is basically serviceable.
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Huxley posted:Update. Works exactly as advertised, obviously. Thanks for the update! And yeah, I'd heard front element glass was pretty tough. Also, I'm a hopeless Pentax fanboy so of course I'm going to suggest the K-50.
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ExecuDork posted:Thanks for the update! And yeah, I'd heard front element glass was pretty tough. I like the Pentax K-50 but I'm hesitant to purchase it BC it doesn't seem to be very good for video. This is too hard haha. Now I'm looking at maybe a Panasonic G6 or jumping to the GH3. The GH3 is quite a bit more money than I wanted to spend. I keep going back to the FZ200 BC of portability concerns. I highly doubt whatever I buy will end up being my only camera if this ends up being something I enjoy. I feel like it would be satisfactory for me to learn on and figure out what I need/want to do.
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Nothing is going to be perfect. You just need to think about what'll best meet your needs, try some stuff out in the store if you can, and make a decision. Pretty sure the GH3 is almost exactly the same size as an FZ200. They should be getting cheaper on the used market thanks to the GH4 coming out too. In any case, the FZ200 isn't a particularly small camera—here it is compared to a K-50: http://camerasize.com/compare/#462,349 If you actually care at all about low light I wouldn't get the FZ200. Or about taking pictures and enjoying cameras. It isn't really a camera you're going to "grow into." The K-50 would be my choice as I'm also a Pentax fanboy, but I haven't been able to find any video samples from it so far.
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The whole "Pentax isn't good at video" thing comes from back during the Canon T2i/t3i product cycle, Canon was killing it with video and setting benchmarks for what to expect from entry level cameras, and frankly even Nikon wasn't doing a good job of keeping up at first. The Pentaxes from that era shot some god awful motion jpeg format slapped onto the feature list. Now Pentaxes shoots the same h264 that everyone else does, and for home use there is not going to be a lot of difference between Canikon and Pentax.
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ExecuDork posted:Thanks for the update! And yeah, I'd heard front element glass was pretty tough. It's really tough actually. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1tTBncIsm8&t=666s
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Mightaswell posted:The whole "Pentax isn't good at video" thing comes from back during the Canon T2i/t3i product cycle, Canon was killing it with video and setting benchmarks for what to expect from entry level cameras, and frankly even Nikon wasn't doing a good job of keeping up at first. The Pentaxes from that era shot some god awful motion jpeg format slapped onto the feature list. Now Pentaxes shoots the same h264 that everyone else does, and for home use there is not going to be a lot of difference between Canikon and Pentax. Well, except for the fact that Canon has Magic Lantern firmware hacks which really open up the camera's video abilities if you're interested in non-standard videography.
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Mightaswell posted:Now Pentaxes shoots the same h264 that everyone else does, and for home use there is not going to be a lot of difference between Canikon and Pentax. I don't know about Pentax but the main difference between the Canon and Nikon video shooting, regardless of actual quality, is the interface. The video interface for Nikon is a total pain in the rear end compared to the Canon one.
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No aperture change in live view is the crazy thing on Nikons. For whatever reason the D800 doesn't have this limitation. It's a shame too as the D5300 produces some beautiful video. I've been thinking about picking one up anyway since they're not that pricy and I'd love an articulated screen.
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powderific posted:No aperture change in live view is the crazy thing on Nikons. For whatever reason the D800 doesn't have this limitation. It's a shame too as the D5300 produces some beautiful video. I've been thinking about picking one up anyway since they're not that pricy and I'd love an articulated screen. It has to do with Nikon lenses still using mechanical aperture levers. The D800 has the smooth quiet aperture changing mechanism whereas the cheaper bodies are using a cheaper louder clunkier aperture changing mechanism. Nikon figures they'd rather lock you out of on-the-fly aperture changes than put up with complaints about noisy aperture changes during video recording.
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Aperture change is still very audible on the d800. And there's no reason they shouldn't let you change aperture in stills live view.
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Anyone have anything to say about this camera? Sony SLTA65VM. Been checking out some sample shots and seems to be pretty good for photo and video. Selling for about $800 for Camera body, 18-135mm lens with some extras.
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Moonbloodsflow posted:Anyone have anything to say about this camera? Sony SLTA65VM. Been checking out some sample shots and seems to be pretty good for photo and video. Selling for about $800 for Camera body, 18-135mm lens with some extras. It's a very decent camera and if video is important it's a good choice.
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grack posted:It's a very decent camera and if video is important it's a good choice. I know I'm probably annoying the crap out of you guys. T5i or D5300?
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Moonbloodsflow posted:I know I'm probably annoying the crap out of you guys. T5i or D5300? You really, really, REALLY need to go try these cameras out in person before even considering specs. Nikon and Canon cameras feel and operate completely differently. As an example, I cannot stand the way the Nikon lenses zoom, it is the reverse direction of Canon lenses and is reason enough (though there are others) for me to go with Canon. You may feel the opposite, but you won't know until you get your hands on them. Preferably at an actual camera store that doesn't have them tethered to a sales post like Best Buy does. After you've handled the bodies in person, then start to narrow it down with specs, as you'll find most of these level of cameras (between Nikon/Canon, anyway) are neck and neck as far as capabilities go.
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Snapsort makes it easy to do a high-level spec comparison: http://snapsort.com/compare/Canon-Rebel-T5i-vs-Nikon-D5300 But yeah, there's more to cameras than the pure numbers, plus sensor performance can be difficult to quantify as a single number.
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Remember that you're looking at system cameras and it's no longer the film era. You will be replacing whatever body you buy, probably sooner than you'd care to think about.
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Moonbloodsflow posted:I know I'm probably annoying the crap out of you guys. T5i or D5300? IF you are looking at that price point, just look at the Pentax K-50, the Canon t4i, and the Nikon D5200. I don't think any company has put out anything major this generation. Plus the t5i uses exactly the same parts as the t4i so it wouldn't be worth the money. Also, listen to mclifford82, play around with the cameras first. Ergonomics make a huge difference in what you may want to purchase. Playing with them at least for a little bit will give you an idea of how comfortable it is before you make such an expensive purchase.
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