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Siivola posted:Now I want to play something like Black Lagoon. Shadowrun, because chainsaws are really good now and .50's with underbarrel grenade launchers are fully supported.  But yeah you're probably better off going with Feng Shui.
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Atlatl posted:Shadowrun, because chainsaws are really good now and .50's with underbarrel grenade launchers are fully supported.  I guess I'll have to look into Feng Shui, then.
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I know that "run it in FATE" is practically a meme around here by now but Feng Shui is the one game I would unhesitatingly recommend that someone run in FATE instead. The resolution system is almost FATE-esque anyway (d6 minus d6, add the result to a skill number and compare to a difficulty) except it has exploding dice which can cause the results to skew all over the place, and for a game as high-flying and crazy as it aims to be it's just a bit too fiddly in places (there's a gun stunt that lets you never have to reload...but you have to buy it three times to get to that point, stuff like that). Archetypes and Melodramatic Hooks essentially translate 1-1 with High Concepts and Troubles, and I feel like FATE's system of creating aspects works better as far as encouraging the players to do all sorts of crazy stuff to the environment and their opponents than Feng Shui's own stunt guidelines which were pretty awesome for the time the game came out in 1996 but essentially boil down to "don't penalize players for describing things in a cool way."
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Siivola posted:...Gee, thanks. Now I want to play something like Black Lagoon. Aside from Hollowpoint, are there even any good games for that sort of John Woo shoot all the things Hong Kong action cinema stuff?  This game from 1996 is what, IMO, blazed the trail that would create games like Fate and Apocalypse World. Its not as good as either of those, but it is literally what you're asking for. There is even a rule where a player using a shotgun gets a bonus point of damage if he, the player himself, not the character, mimes out pumping his shotgun and speaks a "KA-CHANK" sound effect (which I ruled applied to lever and bolt action rifles). Darksaber posted:Feng Shui? I don't have personal experience with it, just what was in the Fatal & Friends threads, but it didn't sound like a terrible system at all, and I'm sure you could strip out all the time travelling mystical stuff if you want, depending on your preferred flavor of Hong Kong cinema. Yeah, you don't need to use the default setting (though its a hilarious awesome excuse to mash together every subgenere of action movies into one explosion filled mess). The first one shot I ever ran for friends was a Matrix game that ripped off the basic premise of Die Hard. Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Apr 18, 2014 |
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Kai Tave posted:I know that "run it in FATE" is practically a meme around here by now but Feng Shui is the one game I would unhesitatingly recommend that someone run in FATE instead. The resolution system is almost FATE-esque anyway (d6 minus d6, add the result to a skill number and compare to a difficulty) except it has exploding dice which can cause the results to skew all over the place, and for a game as high-flying and crazy as it aims to be it's just a bit too fiddly in places (there's a gun stunt that lets you never have to reload...but you have to buy it three times to get to that point, stuff like that). I'd straight-up run Feng Shui in FAE, no question. The only question is do I keep the same Approaches or replace them with something like:
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Galaga Galaxian posted:What about Car Chases?
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Kai Tave posted:I know that "run it in FATE" is practically a meme around here by now but Feng Shui is the one game I would unhesitatingly recommend that someone run in FATE instead. The resolution system is almost FATE-esque anyway (d6 minus d6, add the result to a skill number and compare to a difficulty) except it has exploding dice which can cause the results to skew all over the place, and for a game as high-flying and crazy as it aims to be it's just a bit too fiddly in places (there's a gun stunt that lets you never have to reload...but you have to buy it three times to get to that point, stuff like that). Seriously, I'd kill for a Fate Core Feng Shui game.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:What about Car Chases? I think car chases are a problem you solve, not a way you solve them. Though I admit a character who responds to obstacles by smashing through the wall in a 67 Charger like the Kool-Aid Man had a certain charm.
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dwarf74 posted:That's on my list! Late to this particular train but I swear to god who keeps telling you to do this? 70% of the fun of Gurren Lagann is that it is a lovingly crafted If you want Super Robo Mecha watch some GaoGaiGar, Mazinkaiser or, preferably, Getter Robo. If you're looking for something a bit more modern Star Driver is an....entertaining show, but not one that should be taken too seriously. Hell, they manage to make the 'the girl' character into an actual human being who steals some of the best scenes in the series! If you want 'Real' Robo watch one of the good Gundam Shows (I would recommend Zeta, Turn A, Victory, or War in the Pocket) or maybe Macross (Ignoring G Gundam and Macross 7 which are amazing and the best but more Super robo in themes and execution). It's me, I'm the guy getting  about Mecha anime. Also Please Watch Legend of The Galactic Heroes. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Apr 18, 2014 |
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Galaga Galaxian posted:What about Car Chases? Each car is made up of two zones (inside, hanging on outside), and the road between each car is a separate zone you don't want to end up in.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Also Please Watch Legend of The Galactic Heroes. This is all I'll probably add to the anime discussion, because it can never be said enough. Its also basically Traveller High Guard/Trillion Credit Squadron: The Anime. 
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Evil Mastermind posted:When the DFRPG came out, one of the first things I did was start working on a Feng Shui hack since aspects, stunts, and creature powers did like half the work for me. Tianxia. It would require really minimal refluffing of the Chi skill and creative usage of stunts and that's about it.
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Galaga Galaxian posted:This is all I'll probably add to the anime discussion, because it can never be said enough. Yeah I know it's 100+ episodes long but it is simply (one of) the best animated things to come out of Japan. Please watch it.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:watch some GaoGaiGar This is all anyone here really needs to know about anime.
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Anybody recommending an anime that is not Legend of Galactic Heroes is a drat fool. We can talk about ninjas and whatever but your anime doesn't feature an alternate universe history professor telling you the sociopolitical implications of intergalactic shipping routes and their influence on political evolution of a neo-feudalist empire. Besides, it features perhaps one of the greatest exchanges about alcohol in any media.
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I've tried watching Legend of Galactic Heroes, and I think it's really good, but it's just too drat depressing to watch much of. I can't really watch more than twenty or thirty episodes before I get sick of watching millions of people and dozens of characters die in pointless and excruciating ways.  Then I go play 40K.  Speaking of pointless and excruciating, I should really get back to my F&F of Twilight 2000. The gear  section kind of burned me out.
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the fanmade Final Fantasy RPG kinda... bad? I remember reading the writeup in F&F and I got the distinct impression that there were some terrible problems with it, but it seems that was second edition and there's apparently a third one now? Some MMO goons I know are planning to try it out, and if anyone has some experience with it I'd like to be able to warn them off of it or at least point out major pitfalls.
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It's outstandingly bad. Not in the way that, say, FATAL is bad but nothing any group of people should actually be using.
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Darksaber posted:Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the fanmade Final Fantasy RPG kinda... bad? I remember reading the writeup in F&F and I got the distinct impression that there were some terrible problems with it, but it seems that was second edition and there's apparently a third one now? Some MMO goons I know are planning to try it out, and if anyone has some experience with it I'd like to be able to warn them off of it or at least point out major pitfalls. What I remember about first edition was that 90% of abilities were traps and the ones that weren't were so staggeringly game-breakingly powerful that by taking them you could easily solo foes magnitudes of power higher than you. That and the math is a mess all over.
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Barudak posted:Anybody recommending an anime that is not Legend of Galactic Heroes is a drat fool. We can talk about ninjas and whatever but your anime doesn't feature an alternate universe history professor telling you the sociopolitical implications of intergalactic shipping routes and their influence on political evolution of a neo-feudalist empire. How could I abandon a friend, Barudak?
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If you liked Gurren Lagann but thought "man, this would be awesome set in the Warring States era of Japan" then Sengoku Basara is the anime for you! It is the most ridiculously over-the-top thing ever but it's got a decent plot in between absurd battle scenes and intentionally overwrought characterization. I'm pretty sure everyone involved was taking heavy acting lessons from Shatner.
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The mecha anime you need to watch is Gasaraki. It's like Gurren Lagann except it's not stupid and has kabuki demon summoners riding giant monster mechs and evil senators starting wars to influence global trade markets. Or was it the other way around? I don't know, poo poo was nuts.
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What are some good tabletop RPGs for a group of people who have never played a RPG before? There's a group I'm buying some stuff for who have never played or run anything like D&D or Pathfinder, and I'm looking for some decent recommendations. Preferably a sci-fi and fantasy.
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SquadronROE posted:What are some good tabletop RPGs for a group of people who have never played a RPG before? There's a group I'm buying some stuff for who have never played or run anything like D&D or Pathfinder, and I'm looking for some decent recommendations. Preferably a sci-fi and fantasy. Dungeon World. Dungeon World is hands down the top of the list for that use case.
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Dungeon World for fantasy. Maybe for sci-fi too, depending on how hard your sci-fi is too  It's definitely not perfect, but for ease of introduction and relative quality to the rest of the field, I'd say it's probably your best option.
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SquadronROE posted:What are some good tabletop RPGs for a group of people who have never played a RPG before? There's a group I'm buying some stuff for who have never played or run anything like D&D or Pathfinder, and I'm looking for some decent recommendations. Preferably a sci-fi and fantasy. Dungeonworld/Apocalypseworld are really light and simple to intuit games in those genres. Marvel Heroic Roleplay worked really well for my group as well but that fits neither genre.
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SquadronROE posted:What are some good tabletop RPGs for a group of people who have never played a RPG before? There's a group I'm buying some stuff for who have never played or run anything like D&D or Pathfinder, and I'm looking for some decent recommendations. Preferably a sci-fi and fantasy. (The beta is what you want from that page) e: It's based around one-shots though, if you want something more long-term you want another system. I would still recommend Danger Patrol as an "OK Here's what RPGs are we'll start the real campaign next week" introduction. Splicer fucked around with this message at 21:03 on Apr 18, 2014 |
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Tollymain posted:Dungeon World for fantasy. Maybe for sci-fi too, depending on how hard your sci-fi is too Speaking of DW, I started listening to the One Shots podcast today, where they were playing DW and holy poo poo I need to up my GMing game.
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Evil Mastermind posted:I'm still pretty surprised that nobody's made a sci-fi PbtA game yet. The One Shots podcast is a great example of GMs playing fast and loose with the rule systems to make for a more interesting story.
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Fiasco is also good because it gets a group comfortable with the actual role-playing bit, mostly because it is a game of loving up royally and figuring out what happens next.
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Spincut posted:The One Shots podcast is a great example of GMs playing fast and loose with the rule systems to make for a more interesting story. (Seriously, dude, they give you a sheet with all the moves spelled out on it)
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ZODIAC emulates Final Fantasy's systems dutifully, and therefore is a utter mechanical disaster.ZODIAC posted:Ah, the fabled Third Edition, where many RPGs before us have found the mythical Game Balance of legend. Hahahaha... oh, 2001, the age of innocence. Evil Sagan posted:The mecha anime you need to watch is Gasaraki. It's like Gurren Lagann except it's not stupid and has kabuki demon summoners riding giant monster mechs and evil senators starting wars to influence global trade markets. Or was it the other way around? It was definitely an interesting anime (particularly as a look at crazy Japanese right-wing nuttery) if glacially paced, but the political and economic nonsense had about as much bearing on reality as Gurren Lagann's spiral energy. Not stupid? I think it's just stupid about different things.
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Evil Mastermind posted:I'm still pretty surprised that nobody's made a sci-fi PbtA game yet. What kind of sci-fi though I'm pretty sure at least a half dozen separate games would fit comfortably under that banner.
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I mean, Apocalypse World is Sci-Fi. The problem with wanting PBtA Sci-Fi is that you need a much more specific genre or you're not using the Apocalypse Engine to its full capacity. But there's both Apocalypse World's post-apoc Sci-Fi and Dungeon Planet for golden age pulp so what we really need is 70s New Wave psychedelia Sci-Fi and we'll have all the important bases covered.
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Tollymain posted:What kind of sci-fi though
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Evil Mastermind posted:I'm still pretty surprised that nobody's made a sci-fi PbtA game yet. I'm working on it. It's even diceless! Tollymain posted:What kind of sci-fi though Mecha. Always mecha.
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Hey our little goon group is gonna be streaming again tonight. The Game is Inverse World ( Dungeon World Conversion ) The People include: Madscientistworking TheDemon Killerqueen and others! Click here to watch at 7pm CST! Be prepared for Goat People / Goat Puns. gnome7 posted:Mecha. Always mecha. When in doubt, have a giant robot punch it.
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Evil Mastermind posted:I'm still pretty surprised that nobody's made a sci-fi PbtA game yet
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Evil Mastermind posted:Don't get me started on describing my dream sci-fi RPG. Get started  gnome7 posted:I'm working on it. It's even diceless! I'm also working on a card-based AW variant. No I haven't released any of my other projects yet why do you ask 
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