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Happy Easter everyone! Going to Easter church for the first time in my life today. Well, it is possible I may have gone when I was a kid, but I don't really remember much about it to be honest.  Op, feel free to add me to the Lutheran category if you want. I might actually convert to either Orthodoxy or Catholicism in the future, but where I currently live both are rather small churches, the Lutheran church is kind of the "standard" here in Finland.
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Smoking Crow posted:Christ is risen. Indeed he is risen! Let God arise, let his enemies be scattered. Христос воскресе!
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Apr 20, 2014 08:56
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:Христос воскресе! Ваистину васкрсе!
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Apr 20, 2014 08:58
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Rodrigo Diaz posted:Indeed he is risen! Воистину воскресе! Chrystus zmartwychwstał!
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Apr 20, 2014 09:53
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Paladinus posted:Chrystus zmartwychwstał! Prawdziwie zmartwychwstał! Tha Criosd air čiridh! (One of my friends does this in Klingon sometimes, we are all huge nerds)
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Apr 20, 2014 11:03
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Smoking Crow posted:Christ is risen. Vodka in bottle = dance all night. Edit: SirJohanna posted:Happy Easter everyone! Going to Easter church for the first time in my life today. Well, it is possible I may have gone when I was a kid, but I don't really remember much about it to be honest. Since we were all one thing for more time than we weren't: Christus resurrexit? HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 13:03 on Apr 20, 2014 |
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Apr 20, 2014 13:00
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Smoking Crow posted:Christ is risen. The Lord is risen indeed! Alleluia! (that's how the Episcopal Book of Common Prayer phrases it) Happy Easter! Off to church in a bit. Also, going to celebrate with my first coffee in six weeks. 
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Apr 20, 2014 13:22
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From the crypt of the Berliner Dom: "Er ist nicht hier, er ist auferstanden."
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Apr 20, 2014 15:08
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Smoking Crow posted:Christ is risen. Hallelujah, hallelujah. He is indeed risen.
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Apr 20, 2014 15:32
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Incarnate Dao posted:At the Vigil tonight they sang the ancient(?) hymn that marks the beginning of the service (after the procession into the church). There's a line that's always bothered me- "Oh necessary sin of Adam." I'm a firm believer in theosis, that God saves us by bringing us into the Godhead, by making us like God. "Adam" didn't need to sin for God to incarnate God's self and bring us into the Godhead in a way that was more intimate than in "the Garden." But as I was reflecting on it tonight I realized that without "Adam's" sin, there is no need for the Cross, and without the Cross, then the Resurrection is also different. God could have brought us into the Godhead, let us dwell in the Trinity, but without sin, God could not have shown us that God's love for us extends to our sinfulness. God doesn't just want human beings in God's self, God wants sinners in God's self. That's almost scandalous. Now I get it when the CCM singer Matt Maher (I know I know) sang "thank you for sin," I know that God loves me as a sinner, and tonight I remember that even my sin cannot conquer God's love. Good thoughts. It's thinking along these lines that led me to being a universalist. The vigil went really well last night. I admit that I always get super nervous right before I sing the exsultet, but a prayer really helps, as does focusing on the words. The priest forgot to have us do the litany of saints before the baptisms started, but it worked out really well since we were able to do that while we waited for the newly baptized to finish changing from their dunk in the tank and come back in for the confirmation ceremony. It ended up being really beautiful. Happy Easter everyone.
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Apr 20, 2014 15:38
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I just woke up after having served the vigil last night. Protip: If you're getting baptized and the church goes heavy on the water, don't wear a ponytail. The water splashes everywhere. Happy Easter everyone! (Also Hegel I love your redtexts  )
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Apr 20, 2014 16:44
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In a minor Easter miracle, despite getting to church half an hour early instead of half a minute early, and Mass then lasting half an hour longer than usual, my toddler actually stayed in the pew with me (right up until after Communion, anyway, at which point he refused to go back into the pew, but that's usually what happens). Nor did he try to escape while we were walking up for Communion, or fling himself to the floor screaming at any point from arriving to departing. Happy Easter from a convex polyhedron and an alarmingly-well-behaved toddler! 
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Apr 20, 2014 16:48
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Happy Easter! Today was the most beautiful liturgy in my grandmother's parish, followed by another mass in my hometown where our new chaplain had hist first big homily all on his own. He was really good! My little sister (2 3/4 years) went there as well, and just did the cutest thing: during the Eucharist, when everybody knelt down for the first time, she looks at my brother... looks at me... looks at her hands, bringing them into a "praying position", so to speak, and kneels down herself. She was so cute, the people in the pews around us were positively beaming all the time (as were we). :3 As an aside, I've been dating a baptised Protestant from Northern Germany for a couple of weeks now who describes herself as a firm non-believer. Every time I tell her about Catholic beliefs, liturgy and tradition, she looks like I was reading an article about some bizarre jungle tribe or something to her Does anybody have any experience in this? She's very interested and supportive, though, so I'm not too worried about that 
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Apr 20, 2014 17:07
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Smoking Crow posted:On the eve of Pascha, here's the best Easter homily ever: Oh word son, hallelujah! Happy 4/20 Easter, thread!
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Apr 20, 2014 19:07
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Black Bones posted:Oh word son, hallelujah! Burn incense every Mass.
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Apr 20, 2014 20:17
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Black Bones posted:Happy 4/20 Easter, thread! You just gave me a mental image of some joker altar boy sneaking MJ into the censer during a liturgy. That would make for an interesting homily, I'm sure. Given that I'm in Colorado, this is somewhat possible, actually.
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Apr 20, 2014 21:33
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So, here's an interesting story for all of you. A few months back I found out I was never baptised. It turns out I had mixed up some memories of various protestant churches my parents had me attending when I was younger, and was, as an infant, attending a Pentecostal church. Long story short this came to light through various points around February, when I contacted my Rector to discuss the matter with him. He is taking a sabbatical with this Sunday being his last until September, so back in February we discussed various options and settled on an Easter Sunday baptism. It's been a very interesting Lent, reflecting on the meaning of the sacrament of Baptism and what it represents, and the Baptism itself was wonderful for the entire community. Our parish was absolutely packed this Sunday, and a lot of people really appreciated the opportunity to renew their own Baptismal covenants on Easter Sunday as we reflected on Christ's victory. The Liturgy itself was interesting as our Rector decided, as he knows me fairly well, to incorporate aspects of the Book of Common Prayer (British and Canadian) into the Book of Alternative Services (Canadian) liturgy in order to expand it a bit and hopefully make it a bit more meaningful (I normally attend our earlier BCP service, but Baptisms are only performed at the later BAS service). I had quite a few people coming up both to congratulate me as well as to say how wonderful and meaningful they found it for themselves to be witnesses to a baptism on Easter Sunday. Perhaps most gratifying was that one parishioner who is relatively new came up and asked if we could go for coffee sometime as he was curious about Baptism, which is awesome. Overall what an amazing day so far (now family and friends are over for Easter supper). Alleluia, Christ is risen!
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Apr 20, 2014 21:51
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HEY GAL posted:Christus resurrexit Sicut dixit alleluia. Haec dies quam fecit Dominus! Exultemus et laetemur in ea!
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Apr 20, 2014 22:48
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Worthleast posted:Sicut dixit alleluia. Christus resurrexit a mortuis, Morte mortem calcavit, Et entibus in sepulchris Vitam donavit.
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Apr 20, 2014 23:19
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Black Bones posted:Oh word son, hallelujah! The Liturgical Rastafari Thread
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Apr 20, 2014 23:42
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IMJack posted:The Liturgical Rastafari Thread Liturgical Christianity Thread: Herba Fumum Cotidianum my latin is terrible
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Apr 20, 2014 23:45
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Blaze it and praise it.
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Apr 21, 2014 00:30
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My advisor in college once told me he thought tobacco would be a good runner-up/replacement to bread and wine in use for the Eucharist. He was chair of the English department lol.
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Apr 21, 2014 00:49
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Smoking Crow posted:Liturgical Christianity Thread: Herba Fumum Cotidianum  Incendimus Herba Cotidie.
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Apr 21, 2014 02:10
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So when my family was at the 10:00 Easter service at our church, there was a family seated in the pew in front of us with a five or four-year-old girl. She had a pen and paper, and had drawn some scribbly people standing around the empty tomb and carefully labeled it 'HAPPY.' Above it, she drew scribbly frowny-face Jesus being crucified and labeled it 'NOT HAPPY.' Pretty much the Easter story right there.
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Apr 21, 2014 04:38
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Jedi Knight Luigi posted:My advisor in college once told me he thought tobacco would be a good runner-up/replacement to bread and wine in use for the Eucharist. He was chair of the English department lol. And he said unto them, hold my bong while I sink the poo poo out of this putt.
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Apr 21, 2014 05:02
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I couldn't go to Easter services because I work overnights and sleep all day. I did get together with some church buddies to watch The Life of Brian. That's kinda the same thing, right?
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Apr 21, 2014 13:48
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So I didn't write about this when it happened, but a few weeks ago I got the opportunity to take part in a weekend Latin workshop with Fr. Reginald Foster, who's something of a legend among Latinists. His successor in the Latin Letters Office, Fr. Daniel Gallagher, was also there, and I got the very rare opportunity to hear the Tridentine Mass delivered by a fluent Latinist, which was really something special. I'll admit, however, that with the number of seminarians who showed up, I was rather distressed at how badly the quality of Latin instruction in the seminaries seems to have slipped, to say nothing of their Greek. It was more than a bit eyebrow-raising to see that many people who seem to be very gung-ho about Latin in the Catholic Church have pretty shoddy Latin skills, and I worry that they may like the idea of the thing more than its reality.
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Apr 23, 2014 15:24
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So, uh, I got called a fake Christian for not believing in literal 6 day creation. This was by a "spiritual but not religious" person. They also told me that the Catholic Church has a literalist view of the Bible without tradition.  Has anyone ever called you a fake Christian for not being a fundamentalist stereotype?
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Apr 25, 2014 19:47
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Maybe I isolate myself too much, but I've never really dealt with fundie like that.
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Apr 25, 2014 19:54
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Only on the internet. Never in real life. My brother did get called a fake Christian by some guy handing out tracts.
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Apr 25, 2014 19:55
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Only by hard-line absolutist everything-or-nothing types. The kind of people who believe the government is threatening religious liberties.
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Apr 25, 2014 20:07
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IMJack posted:Only by hard-line absolutist everything-or-nothing types. You rang? 
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Apr 25, 2014 21:09
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I got told I wasn't a real Christian because I'd never spoken in tongues once. Some people I know would probably think I was severely misguided or hypocritical for not believing in a literal 6 day creation, even if they probably wouldn't say it to my face.
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Apr 25, 2014 21:18
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Smoking Crow posted:So, uh, I got called a fake Christian for not believing in literal 6 day creation. This was by a "spiritual but not religious" person. They also told me that the Catholic Church has a literalist view of the Bible without tradition. Not me personally, but some people like to call out Christians on not following Jewish Law. As in 'you say you believe in Bible, then why do you eat pork?  '
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Apr 25, 2014 21:42
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Paladinus posted:Not me personally, but some people like to call out Christians on not following Jewish Law. As in 'you say you believe in Bible, then why do you eat pork? That's really easy because Paul is really vehement about not following Jewish law in his epistles.
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Apr 25, 2014 21:48
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Smoking Crow posted:So, uh, I got called a fake Christian for not believing in literal 6 day creation. This was by a "spiritual but not religious" person. They also told me that the Catholic Church has a literalist view of the Bible without tradition. I've been called a fake Christian, but not for those reasons. Although I always tell people I'm barely Catholic so they probably have a point.
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Apr 25, 2014 22:02
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Smoking Crow posted:That's really easy because Paul is really vehement about not following Jewish law in his epistles. I know, right? But then it devolves into a discussion of why anyone should care about Paul who is not even one of Twelve, then a discussion of how much we can trust Gospels, and finally what started as an argument on internal inconsistencies of Christian faith turns into https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDjCqjzbvJY&t=80s
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Apr 25, 2014 22:08
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Smoking Crow posted:So, uh, I got called a fake Christian for not believing in literal 6 day creation. This was by a "spiritual but not religious" person. They also told me that the Catholic Church has a literalist view of the Bible without tradition. Not always by fundamentalist Christians though, sometimes by atheists who wanted to debate the fundamentalist stereotypes they had cut their debating teeth on. Bel_Canto posted:I'll admit, however, that with the number of seminarians who showed up, I was rather distressed at how badly the quality of Latin instruction in the seminaries seems to have slipped, to say nothing of their Greek. It was more than a bit eyebrow-raising to see that many people who seem to be very gung-ho about Latin in the Catholic Church have pretty shoddy Latin skills, and I worry that they may like the idea of the thing more than its reality. On the other hand, that seems to be the way with every shibboleth; the people who are really het up about making others know how into it they are almost always care more about the cultural signifier than the issue as such.
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Smoking Crow posted:So, uh, I got called a fake Christian for not believing in literal 6 day creation. This was by a "spiritual but not religious" person. They also told me that the Catholic Church has a literalist view of the Bible without tradition. This is my favorite thing about  atheists, how they have more opinions about Christianity than anyone else, yet know absolutely nothing about it.
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