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Milky Moor posted:There's a lot of things I adore about BG2. I like how it establishes a relationship between CHARNAME, Imoen, Jaheira, Minsc, Khalid and Dynaheir. However, this is also a bit of a flaw. Even with so many characters in BG2, I can't bring myself to break up the canon BG1 group simply because of the circumstances they find themselves in at the start of the game. It'd be pretty rough if, when reaching the surface, CHARNAME kicked them all out and went off by himself. Because of this, my party always tends to be CHARNAME, Minsc, Jaheira, Yoshimo, Aerie and Viconia. Why? Because the first two are old friends who have literally no one else, Yoshimo assists you with breaking out of the dungeon and is generally an honorable and pleasant individual (and the Geas subplot), Aerie is one of the first people you probably meet and, y'know, can't really stay in that circus her whole life (and Minsc takes her as his new witch) and Viconia obviously travelled with the group at some point given how Jaheira refers to her. Yoshimo, eventually, gets swapped out for Imoen. This, but Haer'Dalis instead of Viconia because of his interactions with Aerie. Viconia can burn.
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I thought maybe the countdown was going to be they would finally release a patch for BG2EE to fix major bugs like one of the most important features in the game not working. 6 months and no patch. Glad Android users can be the worse game of the two though.
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cheesetriangles posted:I thought maybe the countdown was going to be they would finally release a patch for BG2EE to fix major bugs like one of the most important features in the game not working. What feature is that?
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Milky Moor posted:What feature is that? Probably that you can only use your Slayer plot gained ability once.
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Does BG:EE multiplayer still crash almost instantly if you have more than two people in a session?
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cheesetriangles posted:I thought maybe the countdown was going to be they would finally release a patch for BG2EE to fix major bugs like one of the most important features in the game not working. 6 months and no patch. Glad Android users can be the worse game of the two though. I'm with you; they've been "working on a megapatch" for ages. I finished BG1EE just before that final patch came out (would have fixed a few broken quests) and I didn't start playing BGIIEE when I got it around Christmas because I was waiting for a patch. Here it is, mid bloody April, and no patch. Inexcusable.
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JustJeff88 posted:I'm with you; they've been "working on a megapatch" for ages. I finished BG1EE just before that final patch came out (would have fixed a few broken quests) and I didn't start playing BGIIEE when I got it around Christmas because I was waiting for a patch. Here it is, mid bloody April, and no patch. Inexcusable.
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JustJeff88 posted:I'm with you; they've been "working on a megapatch" for ages. I finished BG1EE just before that final patch came out (would have fixed a few broken quests) and I didn't start playing BGIIEE when I got it around Christmas because I was waiting for a patch. Here it is, mid bloody April, and no patch. Inexcusable. Now that they've released Android BGEE, hopefully BG2EE patch is next on their to-do list. I've got access to BG2EE beta, and know for a fact that many of the issues have actually been fixed months ago, but for whatever reason they haven't bothered releasing a public patch since November.
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People actually use the Slayer mode? I only ever used it in the Mindflayer area to open the doors.
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It's also the cheapest way to roll over Kangaxx. Imprisonment doesn't work on the Slayer.
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I guess BG1EE came out for Android a couple of days ago and I'm thinking about getting it. Did anyone pick it up? How crazy buggy is it?
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DeathChicken posted:It's also the cheapest way to roll over Kangaxx. Imprisonment doesn't work on the Slayer. I guess there's that too. What else are you gonna use the protection from magic scrolls for if not that fight, though?
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Apr 21, 2014 02:38
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It's a bit sad that they fixed the Kangaxx pickpocket exploit in BG2EE. That was one of the most rewarding aspects of beating the guy for me.
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Vigilance posted:People actually use the Slayer mode? I only ever used it in the Mindflayer area to open the doors. ubachung posted:It's a bit sad that they fixed the Kangaxx pickpocket exploit in BG2EE. That was one of the most rewarding aspects of beating the guy for me.
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Somewhat related, can you still get multiple copies of the Ring of the Ram from Tolgerias in BG2EE? The time between the pickpocket and the kill is a lot greater though. You could even get a third copy if you opened the sphere with Valygar's body in a Bag of Holding, then gave him to Tolgerias in vanilla BG2.
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If there is still the bug where items get recharged when put into a bag of holding/item type equivalent then having multiple rings of the ram is a bit redundant.Vigilance posted:I guess there's that too. What else are you gonna use the protection from magic scrolls for if not that fight, though? Spell Immunity: Divination when invisible for a general example. If you know spell lists and schools (eg the Unseeing Eye casts Horrid Wilting (Necromancy) which is painful) then it can be more specifically useful. This is probably best for a solo run, but still not shabby.
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Factor_VIII posted:You could just cheat in a second ring (its code is RING39). I could, but for some reason I've always preferred exploiting game mechanics to outright cheating. It's just not the same using console commands. 
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Apr 22, 2014 15:31
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Are you the guy who wrote a script and OCR that rerolled the character stats for hours and hours instead of just hitting ctrl-8 like a sane person?
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Dillbag posted:Are you the guy who wrote a script and OCR that rerolled the character stats for hours and hours instead of just hitting ctrl-8 like a sane person? Now I'm tempted to rig up a camera and a robot that can click the reroll button with the mouse
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ubachung posted:I could, but for some reason I've always preferred exploiting game mechanics to outright cheating. It's just not the same using console commands. Dillbag posted:Are you the guy who wrote a script and OCR that rerolled the character stats for hours and hours instead of just hitting ctrl-8 like a sane person?
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Factor_VIII posted:I wouldn't really call the ability to pickpocket a second copy of an item part of the game mechanics. I view it as simply as exploiting a bug. I just do runs with a certain point buy and SK in the stats.
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Yeah, SK is a nice way of going about it. I like 90 points total for my characters - quite high, but doable.
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Apr 23, 2014 12:41
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If anyone is interested, I finished the new version of  MY MOD, which started out as a supplement to Unfinished Business.
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quote:J. Restored Irenicus's Plane of Earth  I might have to play through CI properly for the first time in years. And there's yet another Arkanis Gath encounter on top of the one UB already restores? Wow.
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Bioware really, really liked Arkanis for some reason.
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Just ditched Jaheira for Valygar. Though Jaheira stated getting some really useful spells I was kinda really interested in Valygar's quest + one less companion to wine all the time 
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Deranged M posted:Just ditched Jaheira for Valygar. Though Jaheira stated getting some really useful spells I was kinda really interested in Valygar's quest + one less companion to wine all the time Valygar doesn't really have a quest, all you need to enter the Planar Sphere is his body. Dead or alive.
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ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:Valygar doesn't really have a quest, all you need to enter the Planar Sphere is his body. Dead or alive.
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ANIME MONSTROSITY posted:Valygar doesn't really have a quest, all you need to enter the Planar Sphere is his body. Dead or alive. Yeah I figured that out, but he seemed like an interesting character to have around for a bit. And his golem as favorite enemy feat kinda turned out to be handy. a medical mystery posted:When using Yoshimo take advantage of his traps, being a Bounty Hunter they're very strong. I can't figure out how to use his traps ? is it like a spell or a skill ?
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The star icon at the end is traps/other stuff (like item abilities, character abilities)
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Are familiars the same in BG2:EE as they were in original BG2? I remember them balancing the familiars for BG1:EE, didn't know if this was a permanent re-balance or what.
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Random note for mac users: GOG has added OSX compatibility for Torment (using a wineskin). I think this is the first time Torment is commercially available on mac.
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BAILOUT MCQUACK! posted:Are familiars the same in BG2:EE as they were in original BG2? I remember them balancing the familiars for BG1:EE, didn't know if this was a permanent re-balance or what. BG2EE familiars are what they were in vanilla BG2, with a few tweaks.
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Deranged M posted:Just ditched Jaheira for Valygar. Though Jaheira stated getting some really useful spells I was kinda really interested in Valygar's quest + one less companion to wine all the time Jaheira's whining is why I always use the tweak to shift her to Neutral Good. Her complaining, which is derived from her being labelled True Neutral, makes no loving sense. Every piece of ideology she spouts, top to bottom, is basically Neutral Good. It's even a valid alignment for her! 
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Captain Oblivious posted:Jaheira's whining is why I always use the tweak to shift her to Neutral Good. Her complaining, which is derived from her being labelled True Neutral, makes no loving sense. Every piece of ideology she spouts, top to bottom, is basically Neutral Good. It's even a valid alignment for her! Yeah. Jaheira is in no way True Neutral. She's the voice of moral reason for the group half the time!
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Captain Oblivious posted:It's even a valid alignment for her! Not in 2nd Edition it's not, and classic BG1 is a 2E game. Druids had to be True Neutral, period, in that edition. Same thing with rangers being required to be some flavor of Good. 3rd Edition loosened those alignment restrictions and BG2 partially followed suit when integrating some 3E rules, but declined to change Jaheira's alignment now that NG was allowed for druids.
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BAILOUT MCQUACK! posted:Are familiars the same in BG2:EE as they were in original BG2? I remember them balancing the familiars for BG1:EE, didn't know if this was a permanent re-balance or what. Generally you'll still be holding them in your pack the whole game to get the bonus HP and prevent CON loss, but some have useful applications like the Fairy Dragon's invisibility.
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They're also okay for luring out and baiting enemies to come get you. Innate magic resist makes mages not really a threat, melee shouldn't be either unless you blunder right into someone.
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a medical mystery posted:Generally you'll still be holding them in your pack the whole game to get the bonus HP and prevent CON loss, but some have useful applications like the Fairy Dragon's invisibility.
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Factor_VIII posted:My favorite familiar is the Ferret (Lawful Neutral). With its 70% pick pocket rate it can serve that role decently, freeing up your thief to boost other more useful skills (provided one is willing to quicksave before each attempt). And the fact its utility lies outside combat means you don't have to worry about it being killed while you use it. I played BG1EE last fall and had a CN Blade. I never gave a thought to him having a Familiar until I tried to have Edwin summon one and the game reminded me that only the main character can use that spell. That's what reminded me that "Hey, my main dude can cast any wizard spell in the game... eventually" and I had him call up a cat, who was a handy scout for parts of the early game. Now he's just adorable and stays in my bard's inventory. I can see your point about the ferrett, though. It's hard to put points into pick lock when it's mostly optional and used sparingly. Bards are great for that, but if you don't have one then a ferrett could really feel a niche. Too bad they can't drink potions.
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