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Meanwhile, in the North Carolina Senate race, the Rand Paul endorsed candidate Greg Brannon wonders aloud if maybe Bush did 9/11.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:but once people remember This little guy right here's what's causing all those problems.
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Joementum posted:Meanwhile, in the North Carolina Senate race, the Rand Paul endorsed candidate Greg Brannon wonders aloud if maybe Bush did 9/11. Sucks I have to take a republican ballot at the polls this week and vote for a carpetbagger on top of it, but bah gawd this dude needs to get the nomination.
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If you think it's plausible that the Republican leadership murdered some 3,000 Americans as an excuse to knock over a couple of countries, enrich their friends, and spy on all our sexting, why the gently caress would you run as one? Like, your theory casts the GOP as deranged fascists who will commit murder at the drop of a hat. "Oh sure, Hitler probably burned down the Reichstag to seize power and murdered any Party members who were no longer useful, but I really think I can really make a difference in the Party because I'm not afraid to speak truth to power!" 
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Apr 22, 2014 01:23
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VitalSigns posted:If you think it's plausible that the Republican leadership murdered some 3,000 Americans as an excuse to knock over a couple of countries, enrich their friends, and spy on all our sexting, why the gently caress would you run as one? Like, your theory casts the GOP as deranged fascists who will commit murder at the drop of a hat. I'll show that son of a bitch 
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Apr 22, 2014 01:29
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Someone from Massachusetts tell me about this congressman Stephen Lynch. Mark Levin had audio of him on the Levin radio shot tonight and Lynch was trashing the ACA, saying the parts of it that were delayed was because they are totally unacceptable to everyone and that the tax on cadillac insurance plans was the first time ever that health coverage plans had been taxed, which I know for a fact is complete bullshit. How the hell did this guy get elected in Mass and is he going to be reelected?
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Apr 22, 2014 01:32
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radical meme posted:Someone from Massachusetts tell me about this congressman Stephen Lynch. Mark Levin had audio of him on the Levin radio shot tonight and Lynch was trashing the ACA, saying the parts of it that were delayed was because they are totally unacceptable to everyone and that the tax on cadillac insurance plans was the first time ever that health coverage plans had been taxed, which I know for a fact is complete bullshit. How the hell did this guy get elected in Mass and is he going to be reelected? Not from Massachusetts, but I remember from the MA special election last year that he was a blue dog who lost to Markey in the Democratic primary.
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radical meme posted:Someone from Massachusetts tell me about this congressman Stephen Lynch. Mark Levin had audio of him on the Levin radio shot tonight and Lynch was trashing the ACA, saying the parts of it that were delayed was because they are totally unacceptable to everyone and that the tax on cadillac insurance plans was the first time ever that health coverage plans had been taxed, which I know for a fact is complete bullshit. How the hell did this guy get elected in Mass and is he going to be reelected? He did get crushed in the primary when he tried to go for the senate seat though.
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VitalSigns posted:If you think it's plausible that the Republican leadership murdered some 3,000 Americans as an excuse to knock over a couple of countries, enrich their friends, and spy on all our sexting, why the gently caress would you run as one? Like, your theory casts the GOP as deranged fascists who will commit murder at the drop of a hat. Considering democracy and majority rule are apparently socialism that's not too far-fetched.
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Apr 22, 2014 01:43
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radical meme posted:Someone from Massachusetts tell me about this congressman Stephen Lynch. Mark Levin had audio of him on the Levin radio shot tonight and Lynch was trashing the ACA, saying the parts of it that were delayed was because they are totally unacceptable to everyone and that the tax on cadillac insurance plans was the first time ever that health coverage plans had been taxed, which I know for a fact is complete bullshit. How the hell did this guy get elected in Mass and is he going to be reelected? Because Stephen Lynch loves catering to the Southie base that is slowly dying. More realistically, he has to keep the unions happy by trashing the ACA.
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Apr 22, 2014 01:49
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One thing to remember about Massachusetts is that while it is a solidly Democratic state, it is not necessarily a particularly liberal state. There are plenty of racists and horrible white people and FYGM conservatives who reliably vote Democratic there. There are also places (like Cambridge and Brookline) that are very liberal.
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Apr 22, 2014 02:10
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Lynch is a pro-life Democrat who represents a large Irish Catholic constituency and behaves exactly as you'd expect with regard to the national party's healthcare platform after learning those two facts about him.
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Any Democratic majority as of now and probably the next decade will still have to go through conservative locales. It happened in 2006 and we got a few very good new laws by 2010. Maybe this wouldn't be the case if liberals didn't live in such highly concentrated groups.
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De Nomolos posted:Any Democratic majority as of now and probably the next decade will still have to go through conservative locales. It happened in 2006 and we got a few very good new laws by 2010. We have to cluster together for our mating rituals.
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FMguru posted:One thing to remember about Massachusetts is that while it is a solidly Democratic state, it is not necessarily a particularly liberal state. There are plenty of racists and horrible white people and FYGM conservatives who reliably vote Democratic there. There are also places (like Cambridge and Brookline) that are very liberal. Democrats win statewide in Massachusetts for two reasons: Springfield and Boston. Those areas are OVERWHELMINGLY Democratic, and there are just enough small towns in Western MA and the South Shore to cancel out the North Shore and Central MA (Worcester itself is fairly liberal, but the surrounding suburbs are lily-white Republican and FYGM conservative). Fritz Coldcockin fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Apr 22, 2014 |
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Local politics show here "Kentucky Tonight" had a couple of the Republican Party candidates for Senator Turtle's spot on last night. I didn't see the live broadcast but I caught a bit of it when one of the local NPR stations rebroadcast the audio of it while I was driving about. The cast: Matt Bevin Brad Copas Shawna Sterling Bevin is the front runner for the "Mitch McConnell is a traitor to the Republican Party" platform and I haven't heard anything about the other two before hearing it on the radio, but as far as I can tell they seem to be running on the "We're crazier than Bevin" platform. You can get a link to the 55 minutes of crazy here Wonderful little tidbits I picked up as I listened to some of it in abject horror: Caller asks where McConnell is and Shawna immediately shouts "Chicken Coop", then they all go on about he's not there because he doesn't care about Kentucky Another caller asks about if it is wise to replace McConnell's senate seniority with a new candidate. They all talked about how it hadn't hurt RAND PAUL and one of the men made this wonderful statement: "Who has done more for Kentucky in the last 4 years? RAND PAUL!" They also dropped the usual talking points about the debt being too high, Think of the Children, and how terrible taxes were. It's kinda scary that these people are getting close to the political process.
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The tea party is clearly just a republican false flag operation to make liberals appreciate establishment republicans.
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I'm not sure if I'd feel better or worse if one day the Tea Party revealed itself as one huge performance art piece.
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Apr 22, 2014 20:10
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Well the initial part of it certainly was a performance piece.
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Alter Ego posted:I'm not sure if I'd feel better or worse if one day the Tea Party revealed itself as one huge performance art piece. Well the Tatenokai was performance art after a fashion... 
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Today in Greg Brannon being the guy who obviously needs to win the North Carolina Republican Senate primary: why, yes, the 2nd Amendment does cover personal ownership of nuclear weapons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPy2obpyHOk Also 12 other amazing things he's said.
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That Loon posted:Please read Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto, his 10 planks of a socialist government. All 20 of them are law in our land today.” How do you forgot the number you just said 6 words previously? 
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Apr 22, 2014 22:11
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Joementum posted:Meanwhile, in the North Carolina Senate race, the Rand Paul endorsed candidate Greg Brannon wonders aloud if maybe Bush did 9/11. How the hell do they find this stuff? This is an obscure conservative talk show, and the offending sentence was ten seconds long. Did he publicize a list of his media appearances or something?
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StarMagician posted:How the hell do they find this stuff? This is an obscure conservative talk show, and the offending sentence was ten seconds long. Did he publicize a list of his media appearances or something? That's the thing. Until he got Rand Paul's backing against a weak establishment candidate, Brannon was an obscure no-name crank who showed up to any obscure no-name crank gig who'd return his phone calls. Once he started trying to scrub all his old stuff, it became open season for nerds like Andrew Kaczynski to dig up the gems. e: but yeah, he proudly flies the (gold fringed admiralty court) freak flag https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdYaFsAhkpk&t=1292s Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 22:23 on Apr 22, 2014 |
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StarMagician posted:How the hell do they find this stuff? This is an obscure conservative talk show, and the offending sentence was ten seconds long. Did he publicize a list of his media appearances or something? Actually, yes, he did. Brannon used to run a conspiracy theorist site called Founders' Truth that contained a list of his media appearances. Once you know that he appeared on the Bill LuMaye show you can just let Google do the rest of the work for you. The radio appearances that they uncovered of Chris McDaniel, the Senate candidate in Mississippi, came from a MySpace archive of the radio show. As Andy Kaczynski, the guy BuzzFeed hired because he dug up all of Mitt Romney's old media gaffes during the 2012 primary, says, "Nobody suspects MySpace!"
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Joementum posted:Today in Greg Brannon being the guy who obviously needs to win the North Carolina Republican Senate primary: why, yes, the 2nd Amendment does cover personal ownership of nuclear weapons. Of course, that's clearly unacceptable, and would demand revisiting the 2nd amendment for repeal or at least modification so that it is updated beyond simple-minded 18th century notions.
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There's a NC Senate debate on right now. Brannon has already said he'll fight for the rights of the mentally ill to own guns. http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/04/22/3802083/watch-the-gop-senate-candidates.html It's almost over, but we got this exchange in the lightning round: Moderator: Is climate change a fact? *audience laughs* Brannon: No. God controls the climate. Joementum fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Apr 23, 2014 |
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The New York Times' new data/explainer/wonk journalism site published their Senate model yesterday which will get updated daily on that page. Great presentation too. I love the state-by-state breakdown and the thing that lets you run a one-off test of their model to see the variance. Anyway, as of today, they're predicting a 51% chance the Democrats hold. They also have a page that compares all the various models, which is awesome. Joementum fucked around with this message at 12:50 on Apr 23, 2014 |
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Apr 23, 2014 12:48
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That model page is fantastic. Also will be good for my family members who tell me Snyder is going to win in a landslide.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:That model page is fantastic. Also will be good for my family members who tell me Snyder is going to win in a landslide. I'm more optimistic about Gary Peters going to the Senate than I am about Mark Schauer getting a new home in Lansing. Where on the site do you see gubernatorial projections?
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In strange news, southern Democrats seem to be...improving in the polls?quote:A round of new polls conducted by The New York Times and Kaiser Family Foundation have some good (and surprising) news for a handful of Southern Senate Democrats regarded as the most vulnerable in the 2014 election cycle. I bolded that first one because it was so very surprising. Pryor may be a massive DINO, but he was projected to lose his seat by crushing margins. Also, Mary Landrieu has decided she's going to run TOWARDS Obamacare in Louisiana rather than away from it.
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Alter Ego posted:In strange news, southern Democrats seem to be...improving in the polls? Tom Cotton was the ridiculous empty shell of a human who gave his cell phone number to lobbyists and asked them if they knew how to vote on bills, right?
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Does anyone know anything about the Democratic contender for Governor in Iowa, Jack Hatch? I can't really find much information on him, other than him being a "Des Moines Democrat", whatever that means.
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Bill Kristol has unskewed it alreadyquote:But Romney carried Arkansas in 2012 by 24 points. Similarly, the Kentucky sample is +3 Romney when reality was +23. The Louisiana sample is +3 Obama in a state Obama lost by 17, and the North Carolina sample is +7 Obama in a state he lost by 3. The RNC said they were "adults, not registered voters or even likely voters." Here's the pdf for the poll: http://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/1146701/polls-in-four-southern-states-april-8-15-2014.pdf It shows how many were registered at the top and there's a question about likely.
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Amphion posted:Bill Kristol has unskewed it already Except in this case it's pretty that the sample doesn't actually make sense.
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Lots of registered Dems in the south vote for Republicans. I mean, the poll's an outlier so I won't put too much stock in it.
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Alter Ego posted:In strange news, southern Democrats seem to be...improving in the polls? The Dem governor of Kentucky also has extremely positive approval ratings. And I don't think the polls have any sampling issues since the sample was pretty evangelical and white (74%, 85%, 62%, 68% in AR, KY, LA, NC respectively). Actually, LA's numbers might be a bit screwy, 62% white seems a bit low there. Is Obamacare actually turning into a winning issue in the south? Amphion posted:Bill Kristol has unskewed it already From the poll: code:
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quote:A reputable news organization would have looked at question 12 and thrown the poll out. But then again, it was the New York Times. Hahaha Bill Kristol's totally dispassionate opinion about the New York Times.
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I'd have handwaved it away if the report about Mary Landrieu deciding to defend Obamacare hadn't come out. She's pretty craven--she'd have run as far and as fast as she could if she thought it would provide a boost in her polling numbers, so I have to think that her internal polling is telling her that it's not a losing issue anymore.
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