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Halloween Jack posted:I've never heard "soupbone" as a synonym for "punch." Is that courtesy of the paaay winduh? That's how Bikertaker referred to his fists, because they're really large and dense I guess.
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Cena is a good wrestler. He typically has perfectly watchable matches. But he's never put together an in-ring year like Triple H's 2000 or Stone Cold's 2001. He's had piles of matches that should have been a lot better, given who he was working with. He has very occasional great matches, often with someone bringing a lot of heat into the match (and/or being an elite worker). It doesn't help that he constantly laughs off his competition in promos. Ringwork-wise he's a total crapshoot depending on who's doing the planning and who's being given control of the pacing.
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Apr 22, 2014 01:21
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Soup bone is old slang for a pitcher's pitching arm and since Undertaker throws punches....
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Since we're talking about Cena, how often do they use the clip of him stacking the Big Show and Edge up on his shoulders and giving them the FU? It was one of the most visually impressive things I've ever seen on the show.
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titties posted:Since we're talking about Cena, how often do they use the clip of him stacking the Big Show and Edge up on his shoulders and giving them the FU? It was one of the most visually impressive things I've ever seen on the show. Not nearly as often as they should. Still can't believe Cena thought the finish at Survivor Series 2010 was a good idea. Who got in his ear to convince him that going from eating a DDT on the exposed concrete & the most deadly finisher in the Nexus to pinning the top worker in the group and making submit the top talker and should've-been biggest star within 3 minutes was the way to go?
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titties posted:Since we're talking about Cena, how often do they use the clip of him stacking the Big Show and Edge up on his shoulders and giving them the FU? It was one of the most visually impressive things I've ever seen on the show. I think the only time I've seen WWE give it any kind of importance was on the "50 OMG Moments" media release a few years back. Aside from that, nah, can't say WWE went out of their way to call it a WrestleMania moment or anything.
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I think it was in that Wrestlemania Moments countdown on the network preshow they were doing?
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oldskool posted:Not nearly as often as they should. Maybe he saw that Nexus was a huge flop to that point and there was no sign of it turning around with that match. Instead of losing to a faction that had been botched with mostly terrible talent he decided he wanted to go over and protect his heat. The feud only started working when it became more Wade vs Cena and he lost that singles match anyway so it isn't like he was dedicated to burying the Nexus.
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oldskool posted:Not nearly as often as they should. I want to know who got in everyone's ear to make them think Cena kicked out of the 450 in that match. It really kills any credibility for complaints about that match when people make things up.
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Apr 22, 2014 03:06
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MassRafTer posted:Maybe he saw that Nexus was a huge flop to that point and there was no sign of it turning around with that match. Instead of losing to a faction that had been botched with mostly terrible talent he decided he wanted to go over and protect his heat. The feud only started working when it became more Wade vs Cena and he lost that singles match anyway so it isn't like he was dedicated to burying the Nexus. You can still win and not have an idiotic finish like that.
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Cardboard Box posted:haha, I've never noticed that before. so since he's billed at 6'4" he's probably closer to 6' then? Most wrestlers aren't really THAT tall. Most people will say Austin is 6' tall while the rock is at most 6'1 rather than the 6'4 "wrestler" height. I believe Angle even said that you take the wrestler's billed height then subtract 4 inches for their real height? I remember reading that in an interview and Angle is at most 5' 10.
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Apr 22, 2014 04:25
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Having seen much of the roster at a recent house show, and being 6' tall myself, I can easily believe Seamus is at least 6'1" but probably 6'2". Jack Swagger is huge by the way.
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Apr 22, 2014 04:31
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I ran into Tamina on Bourbon during WM week and was shocked at how short she actually is. She looks huge compared to the other women, especially AJ, but is at best 5'3.
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Apr 22, 2014 05:55
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that would make AJ like el torito's billed height
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Apr 22, 2014 06:03
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ColeM posted:Most wrestlers aren't really THAT tall. Most people will say Austin is 6' tall while the rock is at most 6'1 rather than the 6'4 "wrestler" height. Or add two inches in Christian's case.
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ColeM posted:Most wrestlers aren't really THAT tall. Most people will say Austin is 6' tall while the rock is at most 6'1 rather than the 6'4 "wrestler" height. The Rock is much taller than 6'1. He's legit 6'3 maybe a bit bigger.
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ColeM posted:Most wrestlers aren't really THAT tall. Most people will say Austin is 6' tall while the rock is at most 6'1 rather than the 6'4 "wrestler" height. yeah, I know, I was just taking a guess at what Sheamus' real height could be. I think someone on these boards said they saw him once in public and they were taller. EDIT: and yeah the Rock is already tall enough that they maybe added an inch at most to his billed height Cardboard Box fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Apr 22, 2014 |
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Apr 22, 2014 06:06
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Rock is definitely in the 6'3-6'4 range
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Apr 22, 2014 06:10
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Big Show and Kane are the same height in the ring and they're both billed at 7'. Sheamus wears ridiculous lifts.
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Adrian Neville is another dude that for sure isn't as tall as he's billed. He isn't much taller, if taller at all, than Renee - and his Wikipedia says 5'10" (although I remember him being billed at less than that on NXT). The add four inches rule basically strikes true unless you're really tall but not a giant, or really short and need that for your character.
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Apr 22, 2014 06:26
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It's odd to me that guys in the 6'0 to 6'4 range need to be billed as taller when that's the general height range for (for example) Heisman Trophy winners and UFC heavyweight champions, but then, most of those athletes aren't shredded as hell, either.
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Apr 22, 2014 06:31
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Halloween Jack posted:It's odd to me that guys in the 6'0 to 6'4 range need to be billed as taller when that's the general height range for (for example) Heisman Trophy winners and UFC heavyweight champions, but then, most of those athletes aren't shredded as hell, either. It's wrestling, Andre despite being giant had to be billed as even bigger because 6'9-10 just wasn't big enough!
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Apr 22, 2014 06:39
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I forget if it was Eddie Guerrero or Jericho, but didn't one of those two note in a book that Rey Mysterio is like 5 feet tall on the dot or something like that?
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MassRafTer posted:It's wrestling, Andre despite being giant had to be billed as even bigger because 6'9-10 just wasn't big enough! They used to do this with Big Show and he's actually 7'!
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Jackie D posted:They used to do this with Big Show and he's actually 7'! Yeah, he used to be 7'4" in WCW and now he's just a measly 7'0". I blame the cigarettes.
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Big Show was 7'2" when he first debuted and billed as that for at least the first few years. I like to think they shaved off the 2 inches as both a rib and a punishment because of the sheer number of times WWE had to send Big Show to developmental because he would get fat and out of shape. He seems to pace himself now and shows self-discipline but, man, there were so many times in his early WWE years where he would just let himself go.
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Justin Godscock posted:Big Show was 7'2" when he first debuted and billed as that for at least the first few years. I like to think they shaved off the 2 inches as both a rib and a punishment because of the sheer number of times WWE had to send Big Show to developmental because he would get fat and out of shape. He seems to pace himself now and shows self-discipline but, man, there were so many times in his early WWE years where he would just let himself go. I am pretty sure Big Show was never taller than 7'0. He was shorter than Ron Reis who I think was a legit 7'0. He was pretty close to 7'0 in WCW, now I think he's closer to 6'9. He was a few inches shorter than Shaq when they were face to face.
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This all makes me think of when Seth Green fought Randy Orton and it looked like Little Mac fighting Bald Bull.
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Shima Honnou posted:I forget if it was Eddie Guerrero or Jericho, but didn't one of those two note in a book that Rey Mysterio is like 5 feet tall on the dot or something like that? He probably would be around that range. On Jericho's podcast he talks about breaking in in Mexico and there being some question over whether he'd be considered a mini or working with regular-sized dudes. Konnan went to bat for him to suggest the latter.
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Anecdotal, but I worked at an arena a few years back and was walking around in the basement area with all the wrestlers and the only guy who was taller than me was Gene Snitsky. Of course I didn't see Show, UT or Kane but most everyone else was MUCH shorter and I'm only 6'3.
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The Grey posted:Did we ever find out who was behind GTV? This was discussed a few pages back, but I thought that after Goldust left the company, they implied it was Glen Ruth (Thrasher) after he came to the ring and cued up a GTV clip showing that Chaz (Mosh)'s girlfriend was lying about him beating her.
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When did Scott Steiner go from being a dorky looking dude in wrestling gear to the insane roid-monster who wears chainmail that we know and love today, and why/how did this change happen?
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Dimebags Brain posted:When did Scott Steiner go from being a dorky looking dude in wrestling gear to the insane roid-monster who wears chainmail that we know and love today, and why/how did this change happen? He had been an insane roid monster for years but he turned on Rick at Super Brawl VIII to join the nWo. That's when he bleached his hair and slowly morphed into the Big Poppa Pump character as he got more promo time.
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Yeah, if you look at him around Wrestlemania 9, he more or less looks like Big Poppa Pump with a different haircut.
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What were some of the earliest notable incidents of a crowd going against planned reactions and cheering for the heel and/or booing the face? Obviously it's commonplace now, but I know heels were generally universally loathed in old school wrestling.
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Thauros posted:What were some of the earliest notable incidents of a crowd going against planned reactions and cheering for the heel and/or booing the face? Hogan in at least 1991, and 1994-1996.
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They put the brakes on a Hogan-Jake feud because people were cheering for Jake (Or, more specifically, chanting "DDT"). Jake knew that wasn't good since he was the bad guy.
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Thauros posted:What were some of the earliest notable incidents of a crowd going against planned reactions and cheering for the heel and/or booing the face? Perigryn fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Apr 22, 2014 |
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Thauros posted:What were some of the earliest notable incidents of a crowd going against planned reactions and cheering for the heel and/or booing the face? It wasn't a fan revolt but by 83 the fans were tiring of Backlund as champion and I remember seeing some matches where he'd get some boos.
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