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Ok we need to differentiate between production companies and showrunners here guys.
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Apr 23, 2014 22:36
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zoux posted:Ok we need to differentiate between production companies and showrunners here guys. Producers and showrunners can be one and the same, but if you want to get that specific, then nobody's mentioned Gene Roddenberry or Donald P. Bellisario yet despite there being little chance of anyone here never seeing a show from either one of them.
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Apr 23, 2014 22:40
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zoux posted:Well I wouldn't drop Netflix or anything, I just would like to know if there are at least, say, 15-20 shows on there that I would like to watch. David chase Dick wolf Lorne michaels Chuck Lorre
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Apr 23, 2014 22:45
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zoux posted:Ok we need to differentiate between production companies and showrunners here guys. I think it's only in the last decade that showrunner has come to be generally understood as the auteur of television. Probably due to the rise of serialized dramas. Sorkin probably straddles the line between a Dick Wolf type and a Vince Gilligan type.
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Apr 23, 2014 22:48
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I guess if you mean in terms of a public, easily recognizable face, but even with that caveat, as someone mentioned there's still Lorne Michaels, Rod Serling, and Hitchcock who have got them beat by decades.
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Apr 23, 2014 22:51
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Lorne Michaels is and was the first celebrity showrunner, Serling doesn't really count as a showrunner since he was a host of what was technically a variety show Listing him would be akin to listing Carson When you're asking for the first celebrity showrunner you're talking about a guy who never appeared onscreen but determined the shows overall direction and tone right? Because again that discounts people like Carson, Serling, Van Dyke etc If we go under that definition Lorne michaels was def the first, Star Trek was dubiously successful at best when it was first created and most people who watched it had no idea who Rodenberry even was Even now I would argue most people remember the name Abrams over Rodenberry if you asked them about Star Trek In contrast michaels firing from snl was a Big Deal for a huge nbc show that most people knew about. Like it got major media coverage and the show even had to directly address it in the first sketch of the new season
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Apr 23, 2014 22:53
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I feel like Serling and Hitchcock are different animals because they appeared in front of the camera every week. If someone else had done the TZ intro narration, I don't think most people would know who Serling was. Hitchcock was EP on AHP but I don't think he wrote, directed or did anything besides the intros and outros. Nobody knew who Lorne Michaels was until he started appearing in sketches. Modern showrunners never go in front of the camera, at least not on their own shows.
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Apr 23, 2014 22:55
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zoux posted:Nobody knew who Lorne Michaels was until he started appearing in sketches. This is emphatically not true see above
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Apr 23, 2014 22:56
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When was the term "showrunner" first coined?
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Apr 23, 2014 22:58
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zoux posted:When was the term "showrunner" first coined? According to slate late 1980s
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Apr 23, 2014 23:04
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Well, Brooklyn 99 took all of one episode to completely sell me on it. Now I get to have 21 more to go. 
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Apr 23, 2014 23:39
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STAC Goat posted:Serling is the guy who did the classic Twilight Zone introductions. Oh, The old Twilight zone. I've probably heard his voice then. Most of the Twilight zone I've watched was narrated by Forrest Whitaker, though. Never seen any tv show before the 90's, so I guess I wouldn't recognize Bocho. And I was being serious about Hitchcock, haha. I checked his IMDB, never seen a single one of his movies, though I have heard of Psycho... but only from that Bastille song, "No Scrubs". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xfKU31v3Hc
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Apr 24, 2014 00:06
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Ravane posted:And I was being serious about Hitchcock, haha. I checked his IMDB, never seen a single one of his movies, though I have heard of Psycho... but only from that Bastille song, "No Scrubs". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xfKU31v3Hc Holy gently caress, do you mind telling me how old you are? Actually, never mind, I'm going to feel old either way.
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Apr 24, 2014 01:01
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Kids just don't respect the classics nowadays. Star Wars? Ghostbusters? Indiana Jones? Cliched crap for old fogies. DivisionPost posted:Holy gently caress, do you mind telling me how old you are? If he remembers the Forrest Wittacker version of Twilight Zone, he'd have to be at least 25.
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Apr 24, 2014 01:50
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Irish Joe posted:Kids just don't respect the classics nowadays. Star Wars? Ghostbusters? Indiana Jones? Cliched crap for old fogies. Three years younger, I'm 22. But even I feel old in comparison to the kids today. They're using all this new slang like "ratchet". I just can't keep up. But I did watch the original Star Wars series for the first time last year. Still haven't seen Indiana Jones (except for Crystal skull) and never saw Ghostbusters. vvv: Still being completely serious. Ravane fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Apr 24, 2014 |
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Apr 24, 2014 01:57
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Come on, you're trying way too hard here.
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Apr 24, 2014 02:17
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Go watch some Hitchcock, dude.
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Apr 24, 2014 02:26
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Ravane posted:Three years younger, I'm 22. But even I feel old in comparison to the kids today. They're using all this new slang like "ratchet". I just can't keep up. But I did watch the original Star Wars series for the first time last year. Still haven't seen Indiana Jones (except for Crystal skull) and never saw Ghostbusters. What are you doing on an internet message board for supernerds?
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Apr 24, 2014 03:11
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scary ghost dog posted:What are you doing on an internet message board for supernerds? Four years ago, I was stupid, I had ten dollars and a youtube channel for Let's Plays. Now, I'm still stupid, but I have neither money nor a youtube channel. It's progress.
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Apr 24, 2014 03:26
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"ratchet" owns, Hitchcock owns, you need to go out more Ravane.
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Apr 24, 2014 03:32
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No, I'm sorry. I refuse to believe someone posting on a TV subforum has no idea who Hitchcock or Serling are. Age is no loving excuse. I'm 19, but I knew those names when I was 8.
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Apr 24, 2014 03:40
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And literally nobody knows The Twilight Zone as "the show Forest Whitaker hosted."
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Apr 24, 2014 03:42
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zoux posted:Ok we need to differentiate between production companies and showrunners here guys. The showrunner thing came from writers becoming producers because that's where the money is. Also you guys forgot Carsey-Werner and MTM, which basically created the concept of the showrunner.
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Apr 24, 2014 03:46
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Knowing the Forest Whitaker version better than the classic series is a bit odd for any age. The new series was on and off the TV within a year, while the classic series is constantly being marathoned. Not saying it's impossible, but it's odd.
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Apr 24, 2014 03:52
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Seriously, who thought Trip Tank was a good idea? People who REALLY wanted to make Aqua Teen Hunger Force again? Also, holy poo poo, Aqua Teen hunger Force is still on the air?  Edit: Twilight Zone is one of those shoes I've been meaning to buy on DVD. Also if we are talking old shows. If you were a kid in the 90s watching Nickelodeon, Did you also stay up to watch Nick At Night? Stuff like I love Lucy, Happy Days, Lavern and Shirley, The Monkeys, Gilligan's Island. Old shows like that. BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 04:02 on Apr 24, 2014 |
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Apr 24, 2014 03:56
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I won't make fun because my first exposure to the Outer Limits was the 90s version and my dad once made fun of me for not knowing it was a remake/reboot/whatever. And now's the part where I try and ignore that I'm almost as old as my dad was when that memory was formed.
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Apr 24, 2014 03:57
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raditts posted:And literally nobody knows The Twilight Zone as "the show Forest Whitaker hosted." Yeah, it's "the show with the KoRn music intro."
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Apr 24, 2014 04:00
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soapgish posted:Yeah, it's "the show with the KoRn music intro."
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Apr 24, 2014 04:07
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BigRed0427 posted:
Technically... Aqua Teen Hunger Force ended in 2010 to be replaced by Aqua Unit Patrol Squad 1 which was then replaced by Aqua Something You Know Whatever followed by Aqua TV Show Show. For a brief time between seasons when it wasn't showing new episodes, it was called Aqua Tivo Avoidance Plan. The show will likely (and hopefully) never end. It's the epitome of Adult Swim's irreverence.
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Apr 24, 2014 04:08
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If you don't live in the US it's understandable if you don't know who Serling is. Hitchcock though that's just silly, even non-film nerds know him.
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Apr 24, 2014 04:10
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Ravane posted:Four years ago, I was stupid, I had ten dollars and a youtube channel for Let's Plays. Now, I'm still stupid, but I have neither money nor a youtube channel. It's progress. I suggest you watch The Twilight Zone, to this day it's still the best, most progressive show of all time.
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Apr 24, 2014 04:12
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MrAristocrates posted:No, I'm sorry. I refuse to believe someone posting on a TV subforum has no idea who Hitchcock or Serling are. Age is no loving excuse. I'm 19, but I knew those names when I was 8. I mean, if you asked my parents, they wouldn't know who those directors were either. I wasn't born in America, I was only raised here. But these are just old movies, does it really matter that much if I don't know who they are? raditts posted:And literally nobody knows The Twilight Zone as "the show Forest Whitaker hosted." As a kid, this was one of the few adult shows I religiously watched. I think I was just running off the steam that "Are You Afraid of the Dark" had. BigRed0427 posted:Also if we are talking old shows. If you were a kid in the 90s watching Nickelodeon, Did you also stay up to watch Nick At Night? Stuff like I love Lucy, Happy Days, Lavern and Shirley, The Monkeys, Gilligan's Island. Old shows like that. I caught I Love Lucy every once in a while because my mom actually learned English from this show. But I never really watched any of the other Nick at Night shows.
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Apr 24, 2014 04:15
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BigRed0427 posted:Edit: Twilight Zone is one of those shoes I've been meaning to buy on DVD. Forget the DVD, get the Blu-ray. Possibly the best TV home video release of all time.
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Apr 24, 2014 04:22
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scary ghost dog posted:I suggest you watch The Twilight Zone, to this day it's still the best, most progressive show of all time.
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Apr 24, 2014 04:27
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FactsAreUseless posted:Not true, you're forgetting Lois and Clark. And you're forgetting your anti-psychotics
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Apr 24, 2014 04:29
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Every episode of The Twilight Zone is on Hulu+ in HD. Netflix and Amazon also have them in HD for streaming but for some odd reason don't have season 4 (they have 1,2,3,5).
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Apr 24, 2014 04:31
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bull3964 posted:Every episode of The Twilight Zone is on Hulu+ in HD. Netflix and Amazon also have them in HD for streaming but for some odd reason don't have season 4 (they have 1,2,3,5). Season 4 is the season they shot experimentally on video, with hour long episodes.
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Apr 24, 2014 04:34
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scary ghost dog posted:Season 4 is the season they shot experimentally on video, with hour long episodes. Yeah, but are there different rights issues with it? It's just weird that only Hulu+ has it available for streaming when Netflix doesn't have it at all and you have to buy the episodes on Amazon to watch it there.
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Apr 24, 2014 04:38
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bull3964 posted:Yeah, but are there different rights issues with it? It's just weird that only Hulu+ has it available for streaming when Netflix doesn't have it at all and you have to buy the episodes on Amazon to watch it there. I think Netflix has secret programming bugs that cause certain things to arbitrarily not be available
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scary ghost dog posted:Season 4 is the season they shot experimentally on video, with hour long episodes. No, season two was where they shot a few episodes on video. As far as I know everything in season four was done on 35mm.
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