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Haha, the seattle drill out of commission for another year (or more). I knew a tunnel would be a waste of time and money but I'm in Renton so couldn't vote against it (also the council ignored the vote anyway iirc because of their business bribes).
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ElBrak posted:Bunch of the Unions are gathering at Seattle City Hall on the 23rd in support on the 15 dollar minimum wage. Gonna be attending as part of IATSE Local 15 and getting some sweet sweet volunteer hours so I can move up the call list! Oh and supporting raising the minimum wage I guess. IATSE, you say? Could I ask you about that via email or something? I'm graduating from BSU's theatre arts department soon and am debating whether to head back to CA and try my luck there or see what work there is in Seattle.
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more friedman units posted:Boeing's management has gone completely crazy. They're going to wreck everything good about the company. "going to" effectual posted:Haha, the seattle drill out of commission for another year (or more). I knew a tunnel would be a waste of time and money but I'm in Renton so couldn't vote against it (also the council ignored the vote anyway iirc because of their business bribes). everyone involved in that loving piece of poo poo should be strung up and shot, dumbshit voters included
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effectual posted:Haha, the seattle drill out of commission for another year (or more). I knew a tunnel would be a waste of time and money but I'm in Renton so couldn't vote against it (also the council ignored the vote anyway iirc because of their business bribes). The socialist revolution can't come soon enough.
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Apr 23, 2014 10:56
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And Prop 1 is failing 45-55. With low voter turnout. loving christ, there are mail in ballots, why is this so loving difficult?
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Apr 23, 2014 13:49
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Maybe I'm crazy, but I think that having to obtain a postage stamp is probably that extra nudge of effort that prevents WA from having really high voter turnout. I know there are drop boxes and such, but I guarantee you the majority of voters here have no clue they exist, or if they do, where the boxes are. And the cars win yet again in the "war on cars." 
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Apr 23, 2014 16:02
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Solkanar512 posted:And Prop 1 is failing 45-55. With low voter turnout. loving christ, there are mail in ballots, why is this so loving difficult? The local news has been a screed against $60 car tabs for the last week.
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Apr 23, 2014 16:10
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Gerund posted:The local news has been a screed against $60 car tabs for the last week. Pretty much this. Dori Monson even suggested taxing bicyclists, as if we need to discourage that any more than we already do. Though, I guess the reduced bus service creates more of an incentive to bike to work.
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Apr 23, 2014 16:22
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Prop 1 fails, Bertha is stuck for a year, and the city continues its war against ride sharing companies. It's like Seattle needs to manufacture its own strife rather than be logical and move forward.
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Apr 23, 2014 16:23
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You guys just need to buy a car like the Tesla Model S. Oh you can't afford it? Ugh, filthy poors please get out of my city. 
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Apr 23, 2014 16:32
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UnclePlasticBitch posted:And the cars win yet again in the "war on cars." I never get this, because more buses is a win for people who have to drive a car to work.
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I also need to find the article I read that had the exact numbers, but there is a large percentage of metro riders who choose to ride the bus, who have other methods of transportation available to them. So, when you raise fares, you lose some percentage of your ridership. Which is to say that a 10% fare increase =/= a 10% revenue increase. One thing I'd like to see is a city ordinance requiring all employers who provide free or reduced-cost parking to provide a similarly-valued benefit to employees who don't drive to work (like bus passes for people who ride the bus, or a cash bonus for people who bike or walk). Solkanar512 posted:I never get this, because more buses is a win for people who have to drive a car to work. Ham Equity fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Apr 23, 2014 |
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Solkanar512 posted:I never get this, because more buses is a win for people who have to drive a car to work. That's not how a lot of drivers see it. They see it as "giving up ground" in The Great Transportation Wars. Why, if we properly fund metro then the next thing to happen is bus lanes everywhere and less space for my truck!
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In the war on taxes no sacrifice is too great. We'll just open up the carpool lanes and charge a fee so the non-moochers can get to work on time.
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oxbrain posted:In the war on taxes no sacrifice is too great. Don't worry too much about that. It turns out that humans aren't perfectly rational market actors, and so the whole "demand-priced toll for access to HOV lanes" pilot has been a massive joke: 
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Thanatosian posted:Don't forget that a large portion of that money was earmarked for road improvements, too. I'm in Snohomish County, so I had no idea about this part. What the loving gently caress. We just had a bridge collapse, you'd think spending money making sure roads are in good condition would be a priority. But no, it's an off year election, so all the anti-tax rear end in a top hat vote, and the supposed "progressives" forget there was an election is the first place. Great work, shitheads.
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Space Gopher posted:Don't worry too much about that. It turns out that humans aren't perfectly rational market actors, and so the whole "demand-priced toll for access to HOV lanes" pilot has been a massive joke: I don't drive 167 that often, but it always confuses the hell out of me what you are and aren't allowed to drive on with and without the easypass for the bridges, etc. Easier just to stay out of the drat lane than figure out if I'm violating something or getting charged. (and then it's even easier just get off immediately at the Ikea exit because why the hell else would you need to drive further south on 167, unless you have state jury duty in Kent)
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Space Gopher posted:Don't worry too much about that. It turns out that humans aren't perfectly rational market actors, and so the whole "demand-priced toll for access to HOV lanes" pilot has been a massive joke: Could it be that I167 is a giant steaming pile of poo poo which has full HOV lanes when there's tons of traffic anyway? EDIT: Sorry, that snark isn't meant for you, it's meant for all the times I've been caught trying to see my brother in Puyallap. Solkanar512 fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Apr 23, 2014 |
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Thanatosian posted:Pretty much this. Dori Monson even suggested taxing bicyclists, as if we need to discourage that any more than we already do. Dori Monson's filth. His entire show exists to undercut people's belief in public services of any kind.
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Solkanar512 posted:I'm in Snohomish County, so I had no idea about this part. What the loving gently caress. We just had a bridge collapse, you'd think spending money making sure roads are in good condition would be a priority. Hey, never forget people are angry about paying to replace 520 despite the fact that 520 has the same safety rating as the bridge that collapsed on the Skagit. People don't like to face the fact that poo poo built in the 1940s and 1950s needs maintenence or to be fully replaced. WHY SHOULD ANYTHING EVER BE REPLACED BEFORE IT FALLS DOWN. IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT! HYUCK HYUCK HYUCK
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Space Gopher posted:Don't worry too much about that. It turns out that humans aren't perfectly rational market actors, and so the whole "demand-priced toll for access to HOV lanes" pilot has been a massive joke: Pretty sure they planned that all of the money they were expecting went right into paying the WSP to enforce it.
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UnclePlasticBitch posted:Maybe I'm crazy, but I think that having to obtain a postage stamp is probably that extra nudge of effort that prevents WA from having really high voter turnout. I know there are drop boxes and such, but I guarantee you the majority of voters here have no clue they exist, or if they do, where the boxes are. I've heard you can drop a ballot in the mail and they'll mail it anyway without a stamp. That's what I've been doing the last year.
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effectual posted:I've heard you can drop a ballot in the mail and they'll mail it anyway without a stamp. That's what I've been doing the last year. Not in my experience. I accidentally put one in the mail without a stamp and the postman dropped it back in my mailbox with a circle around the stamp area.
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effectual posted:I've heard you can drop a ballot in the mail and they'll mail it anyway without a stamp. That's what I've been doing the last year. You need a stamp, or else that ballot is going to be returned or dumped. If you don't want to pay for postage, there's dropboxes all over the place. Kaal fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Apr 23, 2014 |
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Solkanar512 posted:But no, it's an off year election, so all the anti-tax rear end in a top hat vote, and the supposed "progressives" forget there was an election is the first place. Great work, shitheads. It is worse than that: an off-year, out-of-season, single-issue election. Unless there is a late surge from the transient voter base that OFA / SA gets motivated Prop 1 is DOA
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There are anecdotal reports of ballots being counted even when mailed without a stamp, but I wouldn't count on it. My theory is that the fact that people think they need to go get a stamp contributes to them not even bothering to vote in the first place.
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Grand Prize Winner posted:IATSE, you say? Could I ask you about that via email or something? I'm graduating from BSU's theatre arts department soon and am debating whether to head back to CA and try my luck there or see what work there is in Seattle. Sure but I might not be the best guy to ask. I just joined up in March and I got more experience in the concert and event setup side, rather then the theatre side. Solkanar512 posted:And Prop 1 is failing 45-55. With low voter turnout. loving christ, there are mail in ballots, why is this so loving difficult? This is great, I ride the bus all the time to get to Seattle to do event setup. I just know they'll cut all the routes i use to get out of Seattle at 2am after tearing down some corporate networking event. ElBrak fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Apr 23, 2014 |
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Solkanar512 posted:But no, it's an off year election, so all the anti-tax rear end in a top hat vote, and the supposed "progressives" forget there was an election is the first place. Great work, shitheads. gently caress Gerund posted:It is worse than that: an off-year, out-of-season, single-issue election. Unless there is a late surge from the transient voter base that OFA / SA gets motivated Prop 1 is DOA Um...guys I have a confession to make 
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Solkanar512 posted:Could it be that I167 is a giant steaming pile of poo poo which has full HOV lanes when there's tons of traffic anyway? What, you don't want to pay $4 to go 2% faster?
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SedanChair posted:gently caress I forgot to vote once 4 years ago and I still feel bad about it. I filled out the ballot and then the envelope got lost under some papers.
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I voted. But I'm not surprised at the result, because it is a really lovely thing. It's just better than the other alternative lovely thing. In conclusion, gently caress Republicans.
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Well looks like Seattle's already awful traffic is about to get worse. For the record I too have missed a midterm election. I did find out that there are ballot drop boxes that you can put your ballot packs in and don't require a stamp. I'm not sure if that's a Snohomish county thing only or not though.
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seiferguy posted:Well looks like Seattle's already awful traffic is about to get worse. If you work in down town Seattle there's a drop box open the whole time at the kc administration building on 4 th. Day of election they are all over the place. There's going to be a Seattle only property tax vote in November for bus funding . I hope it doesn't go to a single bus in the burbs. /bitter
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I voted yes on Prop 1, then went to my friend's house to see that her entire family voted no. Apparently taxes are too high already. Even though a bridge on our main freeway north just collapsed because we have no transportation funding. There may be no possible event that could sway this sort of entrenched ideological thinking. If this is supposedly the most progressive big city in the country I'm even more worried about everyone else, really. Like I don't know how good the bus system in, say, Oklahoma City is, but this makes me feel like it's probably bad.
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Tigntink posted:If you work in down town Seattle there's a drop box open the whole time at the kc administration building on 4 th. Day of election they are all over the place. IIRC the upcoming ballot measure applies to buses that are 80-100% in Seattle city limits. Someone on the seattle transit blog posted the geographical results on Prop 1. Predictably, Seattle mostly voted for it, and the rest of the county voted against it.
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A Bag of Milk posted:I voted yes on Prop 1, then went to my friend's house to see that her entire family voted no. Apparently taxes are too high already. Even though a bridge on our main freeway north just collapsed because we have no transportation funding. There may be no possible event that could sway this sort of entrenched ideological thinking. My anecdotal experience with this mindset is that people are usually convinced there's huge amounts of waste and if the government would only cut the waste there'd be more than enough money to do everything.
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I hear a lot of people complaining about how the rest of the state shouldn't have to pay for Seattle.
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I live in Snohomish country so I couldn't vote for this but it seems after many tries, maybe, just maybe, people need to get past the idea of increasing tabs and find something voters will accept. . Personally I'm not against it but it clearly strikes a nerve with most voters (rational or not). I'd bet the average voter wouldn't give a poo poo about the sales tax going up .2% instead of .1%.
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oxbrain posted:I hear a lot of people complaining about how the rest of the state shouldn't have to pay for Seattle. Yeah it's those drat urbanites spending all our hard-earned tax dolla.... wait Seattle taxpayers pick up 62 cents for every dollar in tax they pay, with all that money being sent to prop up the rest of the state. The Stranger posted:Indeed, if Washington is a welfare state, it is residents in these mostly rural, mostly Eastern, mostly Republican counties who are the biggest beneficiaries, while taxpayers here in the blue parts of the state are left footing the bill. And while your typical liberal Seattleite might be neither surprised nor disturbed at this revelation, the degree of the gap between who benefits from state government and who pays for it may come as a bit of a shock. edit: If I were an urban legislator, I might start tagging a Tax Shield rider onto every prospective anti-tax bill that would ensure that people's tax dollars weren't constantly floating over over to their "spendthrift" county neighbors. That kind of rank disparity in tax spending is outrageous - there ought to be a limit on how unbalanced spending can get. Taxpayers deserve to know that their money is being spent responsibly within their own community, not propping up far-off country homeowners that aren't willing to pay their own way. Kaal fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Apr 24, 2014 |
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