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Mr.48 posted:So I like RTS and I like deck-building games, so I think I might like this one! You can play Wargame with single digit APM, but mostly you'll probably end up with about 20. Wargame is extremely strategic compared to click-fest RTS like Starcraft. The tutorial is bad at teaching the mechanics, as is the campaign. Playing the campaign is awesome though, and if you hang on mumble you'll be fine when it comes to deckbuilding and playing against other people.
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I really wish bamboo forests were more visible. They can be very hard to see especially with that "thin bamboo forest" cosmetic thing they put in that is not a forest. To be fair the vast majority of the time in Starcraft 3 they are clicking wildly to increase their APM stats and to keep up that frenetic level for the few moments in the game when they actually need that level of micro.
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Apr 26, 2014 06:42
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Shanakin posted:1. The vehicle are in m/s. (e: but not infantry and certainly not boats. Helicopters are unknown.) When I was doing some "MLRS Snipe Opening" tests, I discovered that there are a bunch of "roads" (most appear as dirt roads) on which vehicles actually move at their non-road speed. I'm not sure what the deal there is, except I wonder if they burn fuel at the "off-road" rate as well. That'd really further exaggerate the fuel fuckery.
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Apr 26, 2014 06:44
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Hubis posted:When I was doing some "MLRS Snipe Opening" tests, I discovered that there are a bunch of "roads" (most appear as dirt roads) on which vehicles actually move at their non-road speed. I'm not sure what the deal there is, except I wonder if they burn fuel at the "off-road" rate as well. That'd really further exaggerate the fuel fuckery. Speed only matters in how far you get. Autonomy is just a fixed number of seconds of movement. Going slower means you get less distance out of those seconds. That's why helicopters can hover indefinitely for example.
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Apr 26, 2014 06:47
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Hubis posted:When I was doing some "MLRS Snipe Opening" tests, I discovered that there are a bunch of "roads" (most appear as dirt roads) on which vehicles actually move at their non-road speed. I'm not sure what the deal there is, except I wonder if they burn fuel at the "off-road" rate as well. That'd really further exaggerate the fuel fuckery. *punches through wall*
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Apr 26, 2014 06:55
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So I just finished the Bear vs. Dragon campaign by literally cramming every last pawn I had down the throat of the last objective...is it supposed to end so anti-climatically? I didn't even get a little "Victory!" message!
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Apr 26, 2014 07:07
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Really? A PLA general is supposed to come on the screen and give you a one sentence you win!
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Apr 26, 2014 07:11
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For me it said something like "Congratulations... General." Was kind of nonplussed at that tbh :P It would be neat if it showed total losses and destroyed formations etc.
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Apr 26, 2014 07:12
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:For me it said something like "Congratulations... General." That would be cool. It would also be cool if the AI knew how to use "refit" to give me a proper final battle! 
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Apr 26, 2014 07:15
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:For me it said something like "Congratulations... General." Would be neat and historically accurate if you got purged afterwards and died naked and filthy in a bare concrete cell!  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peng_Dehuai Get it? BARE cell? Because it's like you're an animal in a cage!Jesus looking at that article I never realized China lost a million people in Korea. It was such a small conflict! Then again a million is literally a rounding error in China's population. People say 1.34 billion: that leaves out the millions column altogether.
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Apr 26, 2014 08:10
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So I'm 3 airfields deep on Climb Mount Japan or whatever, I've been able to get this far with a grand total of 4 units lost. 2 supply trucks 1 BTR-ROBOT 1 BMP-2 The first 3 were fully avoidable if I wasn't lazy, the 4th would be if I knew that specific map a bit better. I've done a couple restarts after I've felt out the maps (no more then 1 per map barring 1 exception where I cluster bombed my own Hinds). My goal was more about trying to lose as little as possible without overdoing the save scumming. So far so good, considering I could probably go to this point with zero if I felt like replaying whole missions for the loss of 1 supply truck, etc. I've also made sure to not time out on any, although the AI has retreated on a few before the destruction total capped. The fact that so many of the Japanese and South Korean units lack any kind of usable AA is just laughable, especially that first airfield with the full detachment of 160p Japanese Abrams. I have 12 elite Hinds and 8 elite Ka-29 in the naval helo detachment alone. Seriously, just mix T-72B1s with Hinds until the 2nd Guards come up, read the enemy companies for weaknesses, and laugh your way to turn 10 with the ability to take zero losses. Being able to dump VDV anywhere and detach helo groups from the southern carrier group just breaks it wide open. Going to see if I can finish it out this way, but the number of US planes thrown at me now should make that a bit more challenging. Screencaps (I have 8-9 like this so far) That drat ROBOT It's really interesting to note that the AI does truly not know where your units are, but will head to your zones. Problem there is they tend to do it in very predictable fashion with huge flaws in their own deck designs. Just want to reiterate that playing AI will teach you nothing about this game in terms of good habits, so really, get on mumble and play with goons. Mazz fucked around with this message at 09:06 on Apr 26, 2014 |
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Apr 26, 2014 08:45
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Bear vs Dragon is just as bad.
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Apr 26, 2014 09:07
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Mazz posted:It's really interesting to note that the AI does truly not know where your units are, but will head to your zones. Problem there is they tend to do it in very predictable fashion with huge flaws in their own deck designs. My will to play the campaign is shot to hell because my HDD died last week so I lost all my saves. 
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Apr 26, 2014 09:36
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I really miss the REFORGER aspect of the ALB campaigns where you were forced to start out with local regiments, then light regiments, and only got access to the heavy American or German gear after several days.
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Apr 26, 2014 10:32
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So I've played the other two installments and enjoyed them both. I'm going to get this without question, but I'm curious if the current state of the game justifies the full price tag or if it's better off to wait for more patches and a price drop? I can afford this no problem but I'm not to keen on dropping $40 if the game is unpolished as hell right now. Last I heard naval combat is broken and/or bugged so I'm kinda apprehensive to jump in. Anyways yeah, what are your thoughts guys?
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Apr 26, 2014 10:34
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If you're unsure then no harm waiting a month or two. I think we're getting about due for a big steam sale. I wouldn't say it's broken. It's got a few bugs here and there which can be a bit annoying, but are pretty infequent. Balance is a bit screwy. Naval combat is... pretty ignorable if you want and on mixed maps people tend to over-spend on navy and let you stomp them on the ground.
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Apr 26, 2014 15:41
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So I bought this and played a few night back when it first went early access and since there was a bunch of other games out about the same time I let this slip seeing as it obviously needed tuning. I take it Naval is back in, what else major has changed that I should be aware of (or make deck adjustments for?)
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Apr 26, 2014 15:48
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Jarmak posted:So I bought this and played a few night back when it first went early access and since there was a bunch of other games out about the same time I let this slip seeing as it obviously needed tuning. I take it Naval is back in, what else major has changed that I should be aware of (or make deck adjustments for?) What bunch of other games?
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well, making my first deck, let me do russians since i am familiar with them. Lets see how badly i gently caress this up. [edit] who exactly are the "URSS?"
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Apr 26, 2014 16:07
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Union des Républiques Socialistes Soviétiques. Duh. Next you'll be asking what OTAN is.
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Apr 26, 2014 16:15
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Cimber posted:[edit] who exactly are the "URSS?" The developers are French, so there's some weird naming artifacts lying around. e: argle 
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Apr 26, 2014 16:16
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Part of me really wishes this game was more easily moddable with regards to adding new stuff like models, rather than just editing values. Four campaigns just ain't enough, and how drat cool would it be if folks could just mod in all those fun units that got cut from RD. However, another part of me believes that the idiots on the official forums would instead spend all their time arguing over whether tank A should get another half point of AP because of quality control practices changing at Bob's Tank Factory in June of 1987, instead of making fun new stuff... Mr Luxury Yacht fucked around with this message at 17:17 on Apr 26, 2014 |
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Apr 26, 2014 17:14
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power crystals posted:The developers are French, so there's some weird naming artifacts lying around. It'll be patched eventually. ALB had the same thing going on at first.
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Apr 26, 2014 18:32
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:
That pretty much describes this game.
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Apr 26, 2014 19:34
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crabcakes66 posted:That pretty much describes this game. So the official forums are full of autists and sperg lords? I didn't expect that.
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Apr 26, 2014 19:38
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Have you seen this thread? Did you think the official forums were better? (You guys are great and I appreciate all the work you do to figure out how the hell the game works)
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Apr 26, 2014 19:42
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ohgodwhat posted:Have you seen this thread? Did you think the official forums were better? In my experience this thread at least is spared the official forums' rampant nationalism for whatever the various posters consider "their" side. I still want my commanches dammit
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Apr 26, 2014 19:44
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power crystals posted:In my experience this thread at least is spared the official forums' rampant nationalism for whatever the various posters consider "their" side. We can fix that. 
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Apr 26, 2014 19:58
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Used a GMG code to get it at $32, I needed my Asian fix. What are some major changes in RD ground/air combat from ALB that I should know?
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Artillery is totally different. Much more deadly, much less responsive. More like god-powers than like wizards, in a way. Laser bombers other than Nighthawk (Sk60b, F1, etc) are borked right now. Hopefully something will be done about that.
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Apr 26, 2014 20:18
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Cimber posted:We can fix that. But what if your Wargame nation of choice doesn't match your actual nation? I want new units/buffs to Sweden, Poland, and Japan, and I'm "amurricun".
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Apr 26, 2014 20:24
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Does Poland have any decent infantry ATGM options, or is the Konkurs vehicle where it's at?
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Arglebargle III posted:I really miss the REFORGER aspect of the ALB campaigns where you were forced to start out with local regiments, then light regiments, and only got access to the heavy American or German gear after several days. Same, I'm hoping the 92 campaign is like this. I want the whole loving Korean penninsula as a strategic map, and you get reinforcements after like 10 days, with a 30+ day time limit.
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Apr 26, 2014 22:17
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General Battuta posted:Does Poland have any decent infantry ATGM options, or is the Konkurs vehicle where it's at? It's got 15 point Fagot teams. What they lack in power they make up in numbers.
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Apr 26, 2014 22:43
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General Battuta posted:Does Poland have any decent infantry ATGM options, or is the Konkurs vehicle where it's at? I think their ATGM planes are pretty good, the SU-20 and SU-22M3. But that just might be my opinions from spamming them in ALB carrying over.
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Apr 26, 2014 22:47
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JeffersonClay posted:It's got 15 point Fagot teams. What they lack in power they make up in numbers. 4 Fagot teams = 60 points of up to 4 damage a hit.
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Apr 26, 2014 23:26
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Tulip posted:4 Fagot teams = 60 points of up to 4 damage a hit. Eh,, you can't really ignore 4 missiles regardless. poo poo adds up quick. So long as they shoot 2450+ at least. They aren't good, but if your playing Polish you don't really get a choice. On that note, there is almost zero reason to be playing a specific national and not the NSWP coalition, or Nords for that matter. The availability differences don't really matter when you can add entire categories of units that you previously didn't have, like the Konkurs teams and MiG-29 9-13. Just take Polish units first, then fill in the blanks.
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Mazz posted:Eh,, you can't really ignore 4 missiles regardless. poo poo adds up quick. So long as they shoot 2450+ at least. 4 damage a hit is a lot! I think fagot teams are pretty good, for exactly that reason. If you're using them against M1A1s it's not so impressive but against Chall2s it's great. Especially since they'll suppress like crazy.
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Something else to consider is that BATGMs (bad ATGMs, obv.) won't necessarily be shooting at the toughest enemy in range, they may well choose to shoot recon, IFVs or AA units instead if the opponent is pushing with combined arms.
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