Blood in the Bosphorus: A Byzantium Paradox Mega-Campaign

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Samuel: Nov 5, 2011

##Vote Rome

#Sponsor the State of Imperial Law Act
#Sponsor the Secularity Act
#Sponsor the Creation of an Imperial Beauracracy act
#Sponsor the Imperial Sword Hunt Act
#Sponsor the Pax Romana

##Propose Aristocratic system
I propose that senators vote the Earl to be our first dictator, as he suggested first amongst equal BUT! appointed leader of the senate none the less. I also propose that should the earl expire that we will vote for a new dictator from the senate ranks to replace him, but I should also add that the earl's family by becoming Emperor and hence also dictator has also earned his place as a patrician family in the senate, and should his kin be suitable will also be voted dictator. I'll also add that Senators will appoint new senators should any of our Kin expire before succession and thus ending a senatorial line, lord be merciful. A new Patrician family will be selected from a group of individuals who rendered a great service to the empire either financially, militarily, scientifically, bureaucratically, or by achieving a great feat of infrastructure, construction or by aiding in the preservation of internal stability in times of great need.

In future times when the Senate will be hard pressed to control the empire because we will have grown to fantastic size, I argue that the senate should split in half one of new electives approved by the senate, the other half of the existing order. Promoting fresh leadership and change in times of great change. The Dictator in those times may elect a proconsul to rule over the new senate, but he will still be subject to the dictator supreme in Constantinople!

This is the way we will preserve order in the empire amongst the plebes for centuries to come.

Samuel fucked around with this message at 09:18 on Apr 27, 2014

# ? Apr 27, 2014 08:53

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 13:09

Ubern00b: Nov 4, 2009

##Vote Rome
#Sponsor the Creation of an Imperial Beauracracy act
#Sponsor the Imperial Sword Hunt Act

[OOC: come on, we've seen a lot of paradox mega lp's with a Byzantium - this could be the first one with a Rome!]

# ? Apr 27, 2014 10:24

GenHavoc: Jul 19, 2006; Vive L'Empreur!
Vive La Surcouf!

##Vote Rome

# ? Apr 27, 2014 10:42

YF-23: Feb 17, 2011; My god, it's full of cat!

##Vote Rome
We've always been Rome, our capital is the best Rome, we have never stopped being Rome and won't stop now. We are the Empire on the western end of the Silk Road, we are Da Qin, we are Rome.

##Propose the Centralised Realms Act
For too long local power has been vested to autonomous lords rather than the Empire. This must end. At the same time we must recognise that there's a few territories of the Empire that cannot simply be brought in a unified centralised system that simply. For this reason I propose that we centralise all power within the realm that Imperial law may supercede all other local law with the following exceptions:

The Kingdom of the Pechenegs is to be abolished, but the current King is to retain his overlordship over his holdings and his personal autonomy. His realm is to be consolidated as the Despotate of Epirus.
For purposes of diplomatic balance, given its strength and tremendous influence in Roman politics, the Kingdom of Sicily is also to retain its autonomy.
The Exarchate of Kartli, being as far-flung a possession as it is, seems unlikely to be a territory where effective Imperial control can be established without overstretching our bureaucracy. It should be placed under the administration of the Ecumenical Patriarch and granted inviolable autonomy.
The Republic of Cibyrrhaeot, a vital imperial lifeline into the Levantine trade following the disastrous Branas coup is to be granted inviolable autonomy.

# ? Apr 27, 2014 10:52

UrbicaMortis: Feb 16, 2012; Hmm, how shall I post today?

##Vote Byzantium

# ? Apr 27, 2014 12:00

sheep-dodger: Feb 21, 2013

##Vote Byzantium

# ? Apr 27, 2014 12:13

Gyra_Solune: Apr 24, 2014; Kyun kyun
Kyun kyun
Watashi no kare wa louse

Come to think of it, how is the Holy Roman Empire being handled anyway? Is it still to be, like...the same we know and love in EU, only smaller, or has it been kinda broken? Because we could totally usurp that title if it's nonexistent. We /are/ the Holy City of Europe, after all, and have more a claim to Rome and its legacy than that money-grubbing Pope of, what, Scotland and some place in Scandinavia? The era of the Papacy is over - first things first, we reclaim Rome that we properly own.

# ? Apr 27, 2014 12:31

Lynneth: Sep 13, 2011

I shall ##Vote Byzantium
Rome was good. Byzantium is now.

# ? Apr 27, 2014 12:34

Freudian: Mar 23, 2011

##Vote Rome

# ? Apr 27, 2014 13:35

Horsebanger: Jun 25, 2009; Steering wheel! Hey! Steering wheel! Someone tell him to give it to me!

## Vote Rome

# ? Apr 27, 2014 13:41

Meinberg: Oct 9, 2011; inspired by but legally distinct from CATS (2019)

##vote Byzantium

Rome belongs to the Pope, enough said. Maybe once things change, we can change, but I don't see us cracking that nut any time soon.

More importantly, I ##propose the Tricameral Act.

As much as I dislike the douxes and the damage that their uprisings have done to our Empire, it cannot be denied that in many ways they are the backbone of our nation. They provide us with resources, both monetary and militarily, and they take on the difficult duty of administering the individual provinces that we simply do not have the resources to manage effectively. So, the douxes require a say in the governance of the Empire.

The Emperor is a power house onto him, or her, self, and in holding the title, they are entitled to a certain degree of power and influence. In the end, though, the Emperor represents not just a single individual or a dynasty, but the power of the central bureaucracy that is inherited from Emperor to Emperor, to assure the smooth operations of our central provinces and the administration of the standing armies. Also, theoretically, the power of the Black Chamber is beholden to the Emperor personally, to be used in the service of the Empire.

Finally, there is the Senate. For long, we have maintained a solely advisory role, an adjunct to the Emperor's will. But now, as we move into a new era, it is time for the Senate to change with the times.

So what I propose is this. Proposals may be passed and sent to the Emperor, who is empowered to enact those proposals to the full extant of his power, though at the discretion of the Imperial household, specific proposals may be vetoed. This veto may not be used in cases where proposals have a two-third majorities of the proposing body. The douxes may put forth proposals dealing with internal matters, and the legal redress of wrongs between the various members of the new government. The Senate may put forth proposals regarding external matters and the greater vision of the Empire. In cases where there is no clear mandate, the Emperor may choose to follow his best judgment in finding proper solutions.

# ? Apr 27, 2014 13:50

Samuel: Nov 5, 2011

Meinberg posted:

##vote Byzantium

Rome belongs to the Pope, enough said. Maybe once things change, we can change, but I don't see us cracking that nut any time soon.

More importantly, I ##propose the Tricameral Act.

As much as I dislike the douxes and the damage that their uprisings have done to our Empire, it cannot be denied that in many ways they are the backbone of our nation. They provide us with resources, both monetary and militarily, and they take on the difficult duty of administering the individual provinces that we simply do not have the resources to manage effectively. So, the douxes require a say in the governance of the Empire.

The Emperor is a power house onto him, or her, self, and in holding the title, they are entitled to a certain degree of power and influence. In the end, though, the Emperor represents not just a single individual or a dynasty, but the power of the central bureaucracy that is inherited from Emperor to Emperor, to assure the smooth operations of our central provinces and the administration of the standing armies. Also, theoretically, the power of the Black Chamber is beholden to the Emperor personally, to be used in the service of the Empire.

Finally, there is the Senate. For long, we have maintained a solely advisory role, an adjunct to the Emperor's will. But now, as we move into a new era, it is time for the Senate to change with the times.

So what I propose is this. Proposals may be passed and sent to the Emperor, who is empowered to enact those proposals to the full extant of his power, though at the discretion of the Imperial household, specific proposals may be vetoed. This veto may not be used in cases where proposals have a two-third majorities of the proposing body. The douxes may put forth proposals dealing with internal matters, and the legal redress of wrongs between the various members of the new government. The Senate may put forth proposals regarding external matters and the greater vision of the Empire. In cases where there is no clear mandate, the Emperor may choose to follow his best judgment in finding proper solutions.

There you have it Romans! Not only does this ingrate side with the Byzantines and casting our legacy to the wind, but he also sides with the douxes!
Now I ask all of you: Is this what you want? To side with those who'd cater to madmen and insurrectionists, is that how we'll label our empire so it won't drag the Roman name through the mud?
I say: Have none of that! Vote proudly, vote stabillity! but above all else Vote Roman!

# ? Apr 27, 2014 14:08

Rejected Fate: Aug 5, 2011

YF-23 posted:

##Propose the Centralised Realms Act
For too long local power has been vested to autonomous lords rather than the Empire. This must end. At the same time we must recognise that there's a few territories of the Empire that cannot simply be brought in a unified centralised system that simply. For this reason I propose that we centralise all power within the realm that Imperial law may supercede all other local law with the following exceptions:

The Kingdom of the Pechenegs is to be abolished, but the current King is to retain his overlordship over his holdings and his personal autonomy. His realm is to be consolidated as the Despotate of Epirus.

For purposes of diplomatic balance, given its strength and tremendous influence in Roman politics, the Kingdom of Sicily is also to retain its autonomy.

The Exarchate of Kartli, being as far-flung a possession as it is, seems unlikely to be a territory where effective Imperial control can be established without overstretching our bureaucracy. It should be placed under the administration of the Ecumenical Patriarch and granted inviolable autonomy.

The Republic of Cibyrrhaeot, a vital imperial lifeline into the Levantine trade following the disastrous Branas coup is to be granted inviolable autonomy.

I personally ##Support the Centralised Realms Act. It is better for the stability of our nation. The Exrchate has bit at us time and time again - given autonomy and the guidance of the Patriarch it can be a force of good for the Empire. The other merchant republics chaffed under the Empire's leash and broke away from us - let it not be repeated. The Kingdom of the Pechenegs is not even that any more - many of the Greco-Altaics are in Crimea. (OOC: Crimea should totally have Greco-Altaic as its culture).

# ? Apr 27, 2014 14:26

Alexey: Feb 15, 2012

##Vote Rome Let the Pope know that we shall return. Let him tremble.

# ? Apr 27, 2014 14:37

Averrences: May 3, 2008

##Vote Byzantium

We should respect our Greek Legacy, and thus the reflection of our new state as a primarily new distinct Empire from the one that was Rome.

We are not Latins, worshipers of the heresy of Catholicism - nor are we Romans, the concept of which disappeared in the West with the fall of Classical civilisation.

We are something new, something stronger - and something that should be respected given the nature of our journey to this moment in time.

We are Rhōmaiōn - with the Cyrillic alphabet and the blood of the Ancient Greeks, we follow the true Orthodoxy of the Christian faith. Recognition of our Latin past in the Classical era is important, but one should not let that overshadow our current trajectory.

"Βασιλεία Ῥωμαίων"

# ? Apr 27, 2014 14:55

ThingOne: Jul 30, 2011; Would you like some tofu?

##Vote Rome

# ? Apr 27, 2014 15:03

Talas: Aug 27, 2005

##Vote Byzantium

# ? Apr 27, 2014 15:53

Five: Jan 6, 2009

##Vote Byzantium

# ? Apr 27, 2014 19:32

Empress Theonora: Feb 19, 2001; She was a sword glinting in the depths of night, a lance of light piercing the darkness. There would be no mistakes this time.

ROME: 37

Funky Valentine
Skyfinder
Gnooble
Lord Cyrahzax
BwenGun
Sparq
AJ_Impy
StrifeHira
Raserys
ZearothK
Fox Ironic
Flesnolk
Dux Supremus
theblastizard
mcclay
ChaosSamusX
Ghetto Prince
WeaponGradeSadness
Disproportionation
TheLoquid
LJN92
Alikchi
Amnistar
Arbite
RZApublican
NewMars
Readingaccount
Semquais
sniper4625
Samuel
Ubern00b
GenHavoc
YF-23
Freudian
Horsebanger
Alexey
ThingOne

BYZANTIUM: 36

Blackunknown
Aeromancia
ChrisAsmadi
Sinner Sandwich
Ghostwoods
Patter Song
Pyroi
AdventFalls
TheFlyingLlama
TheMcD
OddObserver
GoatLord
Frozen_flame
Dr karma
Redeye Flight
Rubix Squid
Luhood
Sindai
DerLeo
Lost Season
Adept Nightingale
Dreamsicle
Mirdini
Rejected Fate
Caustic Soda
ManicMarine
cokerpilot
D3m3
Beerdeer
UrbicaMortis
sheep-dodger
Lynneth
Meinberg
Talas
Averrences
Five

I can't believe how close this is! I'm on the edge of my seat.

# ? Apr 27, 2014 19:50

Erwin the German: May 30, 2011; :3

##Vote Byzantium

Excellent LP, by the way.

# ? Apr 27, 2014 19:57

Nothingtoseehere: Nov 11, 2010

##Vote Byzantium

# ? Apr 27, 2014 19:58

Samuel: Nov 5, 2011

Fellow Romans! Make history today! Vote for the empire the could have been that should have been, vote for the empire Constantinople was built on, not the land of feudal douxes that seek to make it their cashcow and named it Byzantium! Nay! Show them that the senate rules these lands, that law rules these lands, show them that modern times are ahead with a dashing twist of the old ways that made up the very fabric of the empire before it devolved into feudalism. Show them that coupled with wisdom, tolerance and technology that Rome can and will succeed!

Don the red! Show us pride, colours and dedication!
Vote Roman

# ? Apr 27, 2014 19:58

vyelkin: Jan 2, 2011

##Vote Byzantium

# ? Apr 27, 2014 20:02

Zikan: Feb 29, 2004

##Vote Byzantium

# ? Apr 27, 2014 20:02

Ballbot5000: Dec 13, 2008; Fabricati diem, pvnc.

##Vote Roman

# ? Apr 27, 2014 20:03

MacRomanGuy: Jan 2, 2013

##Vote Rome
#Sponsor the State of Imperial Law Act
#Sponsor the Creation of an Imperial Beauracracy act
#Sponsor the Imperial Sword Hunt Act

# ? Apr 27, 2014 20:07

Mortuus: Nov 8, 2012; Jesus loves you, useless corpse

##Vote Byzantium

# ? Apr 27, 2014 20:09

Geshtal: Nov 8, 2006; So that's the post you've decided to go with, is it?

##Vote Byzantium

# ? Apr 27, 2014 20:12

Barbelith: Oct 23, 2010; SMILE; Taco Defender

##Vote Rome

# ? Apr 27, 2014 20:16

Inkel: Feb 19, 2004; College Slice

## Vote Roman

# ? Apr 27, 2014 20:20

luserus: Aug 6, 2013

## Vote Rome

# ? Apr 27, 2014 20:20

ThatBasqueGuy: Feb 14, 2013; someone introduce jojo to lazyb

##Vote Roman

# ? Apr 27, 2014 20:22

Choccy Starfish: Oct 5, 2012

## Vote Byzanrome

Choccy Starfish fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Apr 27, 2014

# ? Apr 27, 2014 20:24

deported to Canada: Jun 1, 2006

##Vote Roman

deported to Canada fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Apr 27, 2014

# ? Apr 27, 2014 20:25

GenderSelectScreen: Mar 7, 2010; I DON'T KNOW EITHER DON'T ASK ME; College Slice

Wasn't going to vote but ##Vote Byzantium. This is a Byzantium Paradox Mega-Campaign after all. :v:

# ? Apr 27, 2014 20:33

MatchaZed: Feb 14, 2010; We Can Do It!

##Vote Byzantium

# ? Apr 27, 2014 20:40

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