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You should only have the crossbow out for as long as the switch in speed buff is on. Switch to it, get to one of the animations where you cock it to get the spread buff, lay waste and then when the buff ends switch out to something else until you need to knock someone's health down quick.
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I picked Guan Yinping as my first character when trying ambition mode, and she just wrecks poo poo like no one else I've tried afterwards. Her EX-weapon has awesome range, she can self-buff for increased attack speed and movement speed (it also makes guarding officers drop their guard), and her final strong attack, when she's self-buffed, creates whirlwinds that sweep up enemies in a large area and deal a ton of damage to them. Her regular musou attacks don't really seem all that great, but her true rage attack sweeps up all nearby enemies and she runs really fast once she gets going.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I went through the incident at Honnouji in Samurai 4 just now and...same as the others, they can't really do Akechi's motivation in a way that makes sense, can they?
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Just a heads up if anyone wants a copy of DW7 Empires. Amazon sells the digital code for PSN and they currently have it for around $18. I don't think I've ever seen it for that cheap. NOTE: It's actually listed under regular DW7 page, but if you click on 'PS3 Digital Code' it's for the Empires version of the game. I can verify that it's actually DW7 Empires as I purchased and redeemed a copy successfully today. http://www.amazon.com/Dynasty-Warriors-7-Playstation-3/dp/B004HVKA9O
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pvax posted:Just a heads up if anyone wants a copy of DW7 Empires. I have never played an Empires game before. Is this worth getting? My PS4 needs to be sent in for repairs and I do not care to get Xterme Legends on PS3 or Vita just so I can continue my DW8 game in the meantime.
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Unlucky7 posted:I have never played an Empires game before. Is this worth getting? My PS4 needs to be sent in for repairs and I do not care to get Xterme Legends on PS3 or Vita just so I can continue my DW8 game in the meantime. They're pretty nice. 7 Empires is pretty much you pick a scenario, Yellow Turban Rebellion, Chibi and so on for the backdrop. Then you pick your character, who can be anyone from one of the current rulers, to a strategist, marshal or general officer under one of them. You train the kingdom's troops, conduct diplomacy, gain supporters and wage war on nearby kingdoms to claim their territory. Plus even if you only start off as say a plain old officer, if you can amass the resources to do so, you can rebel against your ruler with any sworn brothers or spouses you may have to take the reins for yourself. It's like every Dynasty Warriors fanfic come to life. Ever wanted to play Zhang Jiao and actually lead the Yellow Turbans to victory? Are you a Lu Bu fan that wants to blitz down every fool who'd dare to pursue you and then steal their land? Well now you can! Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 06:30 on Apr 27, 2014 |
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Apr 27, 2014 06:27
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Unlucky7 posted:I have never played an Empires game before. Is this worth getting? My PS4 needs to be sent in for repairs and I do not care to get Xterme Legends on PS3 or Vita just so I can continue my DW8 game in the meantime. For $20, definitely. I paid full price for it at release and feel like I got my money's worth. 7E is self-contained so it's a good one to get, too. I haven't gotten into Ambition mode yet in 8XL, but from what I read they lifted a lot of stuff for it wholesale from 7E. It's DW gameplay with some simple strategy stuff on top. Battles have an emphasis on capturing bases and keeping supply lines intact/disrupting the enemy's lines. You can be a grunt and just fight or work your way up to emporer, woo officers to your side or kill them, build up your home base and make better stuff, etc. The Edit mode is pretty good, too. You can let other people's Edit guys into your game and see lots of He Mans and Hung Dongs. There's 6 (or 7?) endings to get, 1 for each alignment, and a few different scenarios to play through. So the replayability is there.
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So I've been binging Three Kingdoms because this thread keeps bringing it up, and the key lesson I've learned is that EVERYONE is bullshitting. If you are honest up front, you are dumb and stupid (except Xu Chu who is too stupid to die).
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Tae posted:(except Xu Chu who is too stupid to die). ...unfortunately.
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Is there a character better than Zhao Yun at killing an officer quickly? His EX where he uppercuts does insane single target damage. His mobility while attacking also seems great. Only Huang Gai has been more fun
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Unlucky7 posted:I have never played an Empires game before. Is this worth getting? My PS4 needs to be sent in for repairs and I do not care to get Xterme Legends on PS3 or Vita just so I can continue my DW8 game in the meantime.
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The only good Warriors games with Empires spinoffs are Samurai Warriors 2 and 3.
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Are any of the other alternate history Koei games any good? Bladestorm and Troy look interesting but weird, and I never really hear anyone talk about them.
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RichterIX posted:Are any of the other alternate history Koei games any good? Bladestorm and Troy look interesting but weird, and I never really hear anyone talk about them. Bladestorm was pretty interesting and unique. I've never seen a game quite like it. I never did beat it, but you should definitely give it a go if you can get it for cheap.
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I remember trying the demo for Bladestorm years ago and I never understood how you play it exactly. It's not really a standard Warriors game. Edit: It's for sale on the PSN Karasu Tengu fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Apr 27, 2014 |
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If you see Bladestorm you should buy it, I kept an eye open for it in stores for years without seeing a copy.
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Elliotw2 posted:I remember trying the demo for Bladestorm years ago and I never understood how you play it exactly. It's not really a standard Warriors game. You've got big battlefields common to the type in Warriors games. There are bases scattered around the battlefield in camps and towns that are manned by a garrison, and those bases spit out units of troops that attempt to go take opposing bases. Your character isn't particularly strong on its own, but it can freely 'attach' to any of the unit types wandering around the battlefield, and then you control that unit of troops as a single entity. Your moveset changes based on what unit you are commanding, so if you take command of a group of cavalry you'll get a horse and you can move around quickly and do charges and stuff, but you're vulnerable to pikes. You can take a group of archers and shoot volleys of arrows, or any of the various foot troops as there is kind of a weapon triangle thing going on with certain types being strong against others. Your character's abilities improve at commanding each specific type of unit the more you use it. I think between battles you can somewhat improve the survivability of your character by buying better armor and weapons, and those kind of carry over to make the entire unit you command slightly better. Also I think you can hire mercenaries between battle, which basically means you can store up unit types that you like, then plop them down in battle and immediately attach to them. I had lots of fun with it when it first came out, but it felt kind of dated when I played it later and the overall story and voice acting are embarrassingly bad.
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7:E is another of the good Empires games as the various modes help stretch the gameplay out I love bladestorm, I honestly have no idea how long it is though because I feel like I've pumped dozens of hours into it but the wiki's reference a slew of characters I've never met and units I've never seen. I haven't even met Joan of Arc!
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The biggest problem with Bladestorm is how repetitive it is. Once you've played it for an hour you've seen basically everything in the game and the only thing that changes is unlocking different weapon types, and the entire game is just playing rock/paper/scissors with those. Also you probably have to pump like 100 hours into it to unlock everything. It's a shame really because underneath the whole thing is a pretty interesting idea that could have lead to a good Bladestorm 2 with more variety, but I guess it didn't sell well enough to bother. I know calling it repetitive might sound silly in the DW thread but every single Warriors game has more variety and things to do than Bladestorm.
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Don't bother with Legends of Troy. It lacks basically everything that makes the Warriors series fun and entertaining.
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Maleketh posted:everything that makes the Warriors series fun and entertaining. I've long wondered what that exactly is. I've played DW for a decade but I can't nail down why I keep playing them.
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Maleketh posted:Don't bother with Legends of Troy. It lacks basically everything that makes the Warriors series fun and entertaining.
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Mortimer posted:I've long wondered what that exactly is. I've played DW for a decade but I can't nail down why I keep playing them.
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Samurai Sanders posted:For me it's just seeing the ridiculous manglings of history they're gonna do. If there was a better action game series where I can be a crazy comic book version of dozens of historical figures, I'd be playing that instead.
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Endorph posted:Sengoku Basara?
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Endorph posted:Sengoku Basara? Tadakastsu Honda is a giant robot with a drill spear. There's mangling history and there's putting it feet first into a wood chipper.
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Sakurazuka posted:The biggest problem with Bladestorm is how repetitive it is. Once you've played it for an hour you've seen basically everything in the game and the only thing that changes is unlocking different weapon types, and the entire game is just playing rock/paper/scissors with those. Also you probably have to pump like 100 hours into it to unlock everything. It's a shame really because underneath the whole thing is a pretty interesting idea that could have lead to a good Bladestorm 2 with more variety, but I guess it didn't sell well enough to bother. I won't disagree with this, but if it wasn't for the terrible mid-game lull, Bladestorm probably would've been much better received. Once the historical battles start coming fast and somewhat frequently, the game seems to pick up speed again. Unfortunately, the only way I found this out was through like 2 days of basically auto-pilot grinding while laying on my couch, too medicated and/or sick to notice how much I was grinding. I would probably try a Bladestorm 2. Or if they did something similar for the RoTK/Sengoku eras.
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Sakurazuka posted:There's mangling history and there's putting it feet first into a wood chipper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BorGZMhfs-E 0:21-0:50
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Edit: Okay, Warriors games are wood chipper head first, Basara is feet first. One of these days I really hope TK make a DW games that's exactly like the intro movies. I guess there was Strikeforce but, eh. Sakurazuka fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Apr 27, 2014 |
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Apr 27, 2014 23:09
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I'm pretty sure that was in the novel.
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kissekatt posted:I'm pretty sure that was in the novel.
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I meant the story. Regardless of the character, Basara 4 basically doesn't have one. You do stages in any old order and have mostly generic conversations with the officers, and then maybe in two stages per character you say something unique to them and yell a lot.
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Samurai Sanders posted:I went through the incident at Honnouji in Samurai 4 just now and...same as the others, they can't really do Akechi's motivation in a way that makes sense, can they? You remember those crazy Harry Potter fans that sent J.K. Rowling death threats because she didn't pair Harry and Hermionie? That's how I think Koei portrays Mitsuhide.
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I mean, pretty much every media makes Zhou Yun who was a boring guy into a super god. The Three Kingdoms tv series had the Changban rescue mission as him taking on all of Cao Cao's army, even a few feet away from him, on the way to his shu buddies.
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kissekatt posted:I'm pretty sure that was in the novel. yeah, thats a pretty accurate portrayal of the effect your officer has on a battle. Killing 25 officers and 1000 men aint no thang
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Tae posted:I mean, pretty much every media makes Zhou Yun who was a boring guy into a super god. The Three Kingdoms tv series had the Changban rescue mission as him taking on all of Cao Cao's army, even a few feet away from him, on the way to his shu buddies.
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Samurai Sanders posted:For me it's just seeing the ridiculous manglings of history they're gonna do. If there was a better action game series where I can be a crazy comic book version of dozens of historical figures, I'd be playing that instead. I kind of wish they'd do a Warriors: American Revolution game.
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Chortles posted:I thought from my watching that he flat-out does more than usual in the 2010 series though... and at least Cao Ren was there to reel back Cao Cao's "mmm must get" tendency. They gave him a special sword, which I haven't seen before. Then Zhou Yun got that porn-stache that just about every character gets at some point and they all look stupid with it. Like, when Zhou Yu got the pornstatche, I had to keep reminding myself that's not Sun Ce.
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Palleon posted:I kind of wish they'd do a Warriors: American Revolution game.
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In the best of all possible worlds, From Software does it with the same flare they did Metal Wolf Chaos. It then becomes the best-selling game of all time.
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