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Novum
May 26, 2012

That's how we roll
I love Gomi and when he wins my heart glows with warmth. Serious post.

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Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


Teixeira :smith: I really didn't want it to have to come down to my hopes relying on Hendo

Also didn't see it mentioned here, apparently Zuffa's starting to go after GIFs. Pressured UG's owner to tell that community to not post any from yesterday's event.

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



http://www.5thround.com/167934/ufc-might-force-jon-jones-to-rematch-alexander-gustafsson-in-swedish-stadium/

It won't happen probably, but seeing Jones' reaction to being booed by 65,000 people would bring a tear to my eye

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Fat Twitter Man posted:

DC just hit Bigfoot with a perfect combo that Bigfoot was too slow to see coming. It wasn't a one-punch KO, it was more like Velasquez vs Bigfoot 2.

Sure Looked to me like one huge uppercut starched Bigfoot when I watched it just now.

Seltzer
Oct 11, 2012

Ask me about Game Pass: the Best Deal in Gaming!

Sweeney Tom posted:

Also didn't see it mentioned here, apparently Zuffa's starting to go after GIFs. Pressured UG's owner to tell that community to not post any from yesterday's event.

That's really stupid. Hey Zuffa, gently caress you.

Fat Twitter Man
Jan 24, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Skip My Posts posted:

Sure Looked to me like one huge uppercut starched Bigfoot when I watched it just now.

Your problem is that you watched it instead of firing off some half-remembered conjecture like a true pro poster would.

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything

seriously one of my favorite MMA related gifs

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

Sweeney Tom posted:

Teixeira :smith: I really didn't want it to have to come down to my hopes relying on Hendo

Also didn't see it mentioned here, apparently Zuffa's starting to go after GIFs. Pressured UG's owner to tell that community to not post any from yesterday's event.

Is it really illegal to post gifs? Copying an entire event is illegal, but surely this does not cover showing any miniscule part of an event? In the music industry, for example, an artist is allowed to use snippits of other songs in their own, so long as they aren't copying the entire thing.

Honestly I despise all these laws and have zero respect for them, but cracking down on gifs really seems too far.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Count Roland posted:

Is it really illegal to post gifs? Copying an entire event is illegal, but surely this does not cover showing any miniscule part of an event? In the music industry, for example, an artist is allowed to use snippits of other songs in their own, so long as they aren't copying the entire thing.

Honestly I despise all these laws and have zero respect for them, but cracking down on gifs really seems too far.

It would probably depend on how long the gif is and the purposes it is being used for.

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.

quote:

@guicruzzz 1m
Hatsu Hioki vs. Charles Oliveira set for UFC Fight Night card in New Zealand

Lloyd Boner
Oct 11, 2009

Yes officer, my name is Victoria Sonnen...berg
That's gonna be a cool loving fight

Fat Twitter Man
Jan 24, 2007

by R. Guyovich

Lloyd Boner posted:

That's gonna be a cool loving fight

It's a question of who's dumber and more grapple-happy, and one I can't wait to see answered.

mewse
May 2, 2006

Count Roland posted:

Is it really illegal to post gifs? Copying an entire event is illegal, but surely this does not cover showing any miniscule part of an event? In the music industry, for example, an artist is allowed to use snippits of other songs in their own, so long as they aren't copying the entire thing.

Honestly I despise all these laws and have zero respect for them, but cracking down on gifs really seems too far.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

"the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright."

Posting a KO gif from a recent event must fall under criticism, comment, news reporting.

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
It doesn't really matter how much legal standing Zuffa has, if they decide to cut off the UG's gif posting they're going to do it because I can't imagine those guys being able to afford legal representation or wanting to get on Zuffa's bad side.

Like look how long Dana has maintained a grudge on Josh Gross for spoilering some TUF poo poo years ago.

Novum
May 26, 2012

That's how we roll
Luckily we are shielded by a mighty paywall, no one will ever find us here.

Grandmaster.flv
Jun 24, 2011

Count Roland posted:



Honestly I despise all these laws and have zero respect for them, but cracking down on gifs really seems too far.

This sentence doesn't make too much sense but if you had developed a product you would probably want to protect it.

Detroit_Dogg
Feb 2, 2008
Aaron Rodgers is gay and lame and oh please cum in me Aaron PLEASE I NEED IT OH STAFFORD YOUR COCK IS NOT WORTHY ONLY THE GAYEST RODGERS PRICK CAN SATISFY MY DESPERATE THROAT
I tried to post a cool Rolly Polly Luke Rockhold .gif but it's too big so just pretend I put it below all this text.

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

:qq:He expended too much energy and got tired:qq:

I'M NOT SURPRISED MOTHERFUCKERS
I think a big thing is that zuffa does not want knockout/finishes getting out. ESPN etc will get highlights but never finishes. They know most people want to see somebody get knocked out so they make you pay for those.

Pwny_Xpress
Nov 17, 2006

WEC Never Die
So, speaking of GIFs from this weekend, has there been a better flying knee KO in MMA than the one that Beal hit? Oh my fuzzy goodness that was glorious.

Seltzer
Oct 11, 2012

Ask me about Game Pass: the Best Deal in Gaming!
The Zuffa .gif thing is really dumb. I don't know how much Dana has to do with that stance, but his previous rants about the internet were pretty stupid. He's like Lars Ulrich during the Napster case right now. I don't know anyone who would watch a string of .gifs to replace a viewing experience. Also how many people who would buy the card the next day not watch it because they can see .gifs despite being able to read results? (since that is the tiny tiny market they are trying to protect apparently). Certain .gifs have gotten me to go back and watch fights I missed on fightpass or DVRed prelims. All the discussion aside, thinking you can stop people sharing 2 meg images on the internet is super stupid.

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

Seltzer posted:

The Zuffa .gif thing is really dumb. I don't know how much Dana has to do with that stance, but his previous rants about the internet were pretty stupid. He's like Lars Ulrich during the Napster case right now. I don't know anyone who would watch a string of .gifs to replace a viewing experience. Also how many people who would buy the card the next day not watch it because they can see .gifs despite being able to read results? (since that is the tiny tiny market they are trying to protect apparently). Certain .gifs have gotten me to go back and watch fights I missed on fightpass or DVRed prelims. All the discussion aside, thinking you can stop people sharing 2 meg images on the internet is super stupid.

It's easy to forget at times that while Dana is the public face of the UFC, a lot of the decisions come down from Frank and especially Lorenzo. I mean I'm sure they share the same opinion on copyright infringement, but putting the blame all on Dana is kind of foolish when you consider how the UFC actually operates.

Speaking of which, when was the last time we saw Frank Fertitta at a fight card? I can't remember seeing him ringside ever until last night.

Nibbles!
Jun 26, 2008

TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

make australia great again as well please
Companies get locked into a mindset that every torrent or what have you is a lost purchase. For a % that will be true, but those people will probably pirate no matter what. For every one of them, I'd wager there's more people pirating PPV's who then start buying or going to places to watch them live as they get into the sport.

Also for people that miss them they want them to purchase re-screenings of events. Not sure about elsewhere, but screenings after the event here (Australia) are the same price as a live PPV, so if you've missed it for whatever reason and invariably have the results spoiled it seems a bit steep.

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
Yeah re-broadcasts cost just as much as the full price PPV, they drop in price at some point way after the event is over.

henkman
Oct 8, 2008

Pwny_Xpress posted:

So, speaking of GIFs from this weekend, has there been a better flying knee KO in MMA than the one that Beal hit? Oh my fuzzy goodness that was glorious.

James Irvin/Terry Martin

Seltzer
Oct 11, 2012

Ask me about Game Pass: the Best Deal in Gaming!

1st AD posted:

It's easy to forget at times that while Dana is the public face of the UFC, a lot of the decisions come down from Frank and especially Lorenzo. I mean I'm sure they share the same opinion on copyright infringement, but putting the blame all on Dana is kind of foolish when you consider how the UFC actually operates.

That's specifically why I couched my statement with "I don't know how much Dana has to do with that stance". I know Dana doesn't make every decision that fans groan over like some people think. I only brought him up because a year or two ago he made some very naive statements about the internet in interviews. The main point is that trying to stop .gifs is both futile and stupid.

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud

Seltzer posted:

The main point is that trying to stop .gifs is both futile and stupid.

I am no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure if you don't try to enforce your copyrights you lose the right to sue when you finally do want to protect your property.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverherzfeld/2013/02/28/failure-to-enforce-trademarks-if-you-snooze-do-you-lose/

red19fire
May 26, 2010

Nibbles141 posted:

Companies get locked into a mindset that every torrent or what have you is a lost purchase. For a % that will be true, but those people will probably pirate no matter what. For every one of them, I'd wager there's more people pirating PPV's who then start buying or going to places to watch them live as they get into the sport.

Also for people that miss them they want them to purchase re-screenings of events. Not sure about elsewhere, but screenings after the event here (Australia) are the same price as a live PPV, so if you've missed it for whatever reason and invariably have the results spoiled it seems a bit steep.

Haven't PPV buys been on a decline for a while? They could be thinking that they need to plug holes in a sinking ship, rather than put out a better product.

Tezcatlipoca
Sep 18, 2009
The UFC is not a sinking ship.

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

red19fire posted:

Haven't PPV buys been on a decline for a while? They could be thinking that they need to plug holes in a sinking ship, rather than put out a better product.

PPVs were down in 11 and 12 (2010 set the record for most PPVs sold by a single company in history) and up in 2013. They are down this year, but revenue for UFC will probably be up because their international business keeps expanding. Fight Pass is also doing better than their expectations.

Ty1990
Apr 22, 2011

Is FightPass compatible with the PS4? How are the archives?

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!

Ty1990 posted:

Is FightPass compatible with the PS4? How are the archives?

I don't think they've released any video game apps yet. The archives are amazing. They have every UFC main show up, nearly every WEC, some Strikeforce and EliteXC, the WFA and Affliction shows, etc. I'm not sure how many shows have prelims yet, but not the old shows. It's a ton of content and they are adding more all the time.

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

:qq:He expended too much energy and got tired:qq:

I'M NOT SURPRISED MOTHERFUCKERS
yea the archive is pretty much an mma fans wet dream

TwistedNails
Dec 1, 2008

Ty1990 posted:

Is FightPass compatible with the PS4? How are the archives?

The archives are amazing.

CRISPYBABY
Dec 15, 2007

by Reene

1st AD posted:

Speaking of which, when was the last time we saw Frank Fertitta at a fight card? I can't remember seeing him ringside ever until last night.

Dunno. He's got his name on the product but he mainly works on the casino side of the Fertitta's projects. You'd think he'd be around and visible though, especially at the Vegas cards.

Chexoid
Nov 5, 2009

Now that I have this dating robot I can take it easy.

TwistedNails posted:

The archives are amazing.

Agreed. There's stuff on there I thought I'd never get a chance to see, like Minowa's one and only UFC fight. :allears:

mune
Sep 23, 2006
drat, I just wanted to say the Davis/Rumble fight was insane. It looked like Davis was fighting up a weightclass - Rumble looked huge in comparison. I'm not sure if it was the second round or the third when Davis went for a takedown and Rumble just casually tossed him to the side.

Not how I expected that fight to go. Really impressive performance by Rumble.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olYHZ4WE3U8t=35m38s

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
I wish Donald Cerrone were a bit better so he would have a realistic chance to be champion. I'd like to see how many times he'd defend per year and what kind of crazy poo poo he'd buy with the money.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

speaking of gifs





eyepoke jones








Google Butt fucked around with this message at 09:40 on Apr 28, 2014

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Lid
Feb 18, 2005

And the mercy seat is awaiting,
And I think my head is burning,
And in a way I'm yearning,
To be done with all this measuring of proof.
An eye for an eye
And a tooth for a tooth,
And anyway I told the truth,
And I'm not afraid to die.
Surfs Up, Ride The Wave.

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