Pester posted:

##VOTE BYZANTIUM

Lord Cyrahzax posted:

Too late. Just like a Byzantine!

NewMars posted:

Assuming that means votes up to Amistar's still count, we are looking at a 57-57-4 split.

...May god have mercy on us all.

ThatBasqueGuy posted:

Hope this means we get to be byzantirome now

NewMars posted:

Assuming that means votes up to Amistar's still count, we are looking at a 57-57-4 split.

...May god have mercy on us all.

Skyfinder posted:

Well, your and Pester's vote did come after midnight. But only Rincewind knows whether or not that vote and your change will count.

ChrisAsmadi posted:

##Propose The Ming Solution whereby the core of the Empire (Greece, Tuscany, Anatolia & Bulgaria) is placed under the Emperor and the Senate's direct control, while the periphery is granted out to client realms (which may be existing structures, existing lords granted greater control over their neighbours or old entities reborn) who can more ably administer the outlying territories, specifically the Kingdoms of Sicily, the Grand Duchy of Croatia & Bosnia, the Republic of Belegorod and the Exarchate of Georgia & Crimea. Finally, the Valerian Order should be granted control of the Alexandrian provinces.

BwenGun posted:

##Propose: The creation of an Imperial Bureaucracy. - Whilst our contact with the Ming has been turbulent to say the least it has served to make an important lesson abundantly clear, trusting the administration of an Empire to men who have risen to title and position purely by the blood in their veins and not the thoughts and ability that reside in their minds is a critical error. Establishing an Imperial Bureaucracy staffed by only the best and the brightest, and with no ability for patronage or nepotism to hold sway, will increase efficiency of the state by a vast amount, thus allowing us to maintain greater control over our far flung possessions. To help ensure the honesty and efficiency of the new organisation I would propose that any who wish to join it must renounce all hereditary titles, and make the penalties for abusing or misusing their power death. Further we could also reinstate the position of Governor, but have it only open to members of the Bureaucracy as a non-hereditary post. In this manner we can assign the government of the various provinces of the Empire to men whose loyalty is to the Empire alone, without noble title themselves and thus with less inclination to attempt to grab more such things, and one would hope backed up by armies loyal not to them but to the Empire and Senate.

Ghetto Prince posted:

I suggest we acknowledge the de facto situation and ##Propose a Dieta Imperii ; making every Duchy and Kingdom a member, clearly defining their obligations and rights within the Empire, and creating a formal system in which the Senate or Emperor can propose or reform laws. By giving up the fiction that we have any control over despots a thousand miles away from the Capital and acknowledging the Dukes as rulers of their own domains who owe service to the Empire we force power hungry Dukes to squabble among themselves instead of attacking the Emperor directly and ensure that no Imperial members will tolerate any one member becoming too powerful.


Basically, we turn Rome into an actual Holy Roman Empire, keeping the royal lands, and making the Duchies and Kingdoms into Imperial states, but with no electors.

YF-23 posted:

##Propose the Centralised Realms Act
For too long local power has been vested to autonomous lords rather than the Empire. This must end. At the same time we must recognise that there's a few territories of the Empire that cannot simply be brought in a unified centralised system that simply. For this reason I propose that we centralise all power within the realm that Imperial law may supercede all other local law with the following exceptions:

• The Kingdom of the Pechenegs is to be abolished, but the current King is to retain his overlordship over his holdings and his personal autonomy. His realm is to be consolidated as the Despotate of Epirus.
  
• For purposes of diplomatic balance, given its strength and tremendous influence in Roman politics, the Kingdom of Sicily is also to retain its autonomy.
  
• The Exarchate of Kartli, being as far-flung a possession as it is, seems unlikely to be a territory where effective Imperial control can be established without overstretching our bureaucracy. It should be placed under the administration of the Ecumenical Patriarch and granted inviolable autonomy.
  
• The Republic of Cibyrrhaeot, a vital imperial lifeline into the Levantine trade following the disastrous Branas coup is to be granted inviolable autonomy.
  

AJ_Impy posted:

##Vote A, conditional on reintegrating all vassals as soon as possible.

StrifeHira posted:

StrifeHira posted:

Good to hear Rome won the vote for our title. In regards to out next vote, I will ##vote A since it seems to be the best solution.

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On a completely different note 'nother flag! _{With 75% less Lego figure head!}

This time for good 'ol Somalia.



A tad simplistic, but should fit in well enough. The waves in the center represent its seafaring merchant traditions, with the star in the center hinting at its prestigious title. The intertwined rope knots on the sides represent the reunification of Somalia, lands being "tied" back together.