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HorseRenoir posted:It seems like most of those countries have chunks of neighboring countries they would like to annex. Really, Nagorno-Karabakh is all sorts of screwed by international geopolitics.
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Modern Day Hercules posted:Hatay maybe, but Golan Heights is actually an internationally recognized part of Syria. Israel straight up took it in a war of conquest and nobody else, not even the US, recognizes the validity of them owning that land.
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Control of the Golan Heights also gives Israel more control over the valuable fresh water resources of the Jordan River and tributaries.
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Koramei posted:Are you guys sure that's a North Korean map? 대한민국 is the name for South Korea. It's a South Korean map but both countries claim the same territory (not like the PRC/ROC different claims) so it doesn't really matter in this case.
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Flagrant Abuse posted:There's a certain amount of irony in Israel conquering land for lebensraum. They seem to have a certain Drang nach Osten, too. The whole ordeal is basically the ever-growing ironicat.
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Flagrant Abuse posted:There's a certain amount of irony in Israel conquering land for lebensraum. It doesn't end there. Israel also places people in concentration camps and forcibly sterilises Jews. Maybe they should just change the symbol on their flag.
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Flagrant Abuse posted:There's a certain amount of irony in Israel And that certain amount is "a shitload".
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I was looking for maps of Roman Catholic concentrations in the US in GIS, and came upon this map from an ancestry.com page instead:
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Vienna, well-known border town between the Czech Republic and Poland.
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They managed to put the "slavs" marker in the one place in Eastern Europe where slavs never ended up.
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Pretty sure the Byzantines never conquered any piece of Spain from the caliphate either.
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Indeed. The portions of Spain reconquered by Rome were lost in the seventh century, a few decades before the Muslim Conquests got going.
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Yes, the well known Baghdad Caliphate, as it was called by everyone. Contemporary with the Byzantine Empire, the Emirate of Cordoba, and the Holy Aachen Empire.
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I really wonder what goes through the heads of terrible map-drawers. Subtle trolling, or someone enthusiastic enough to make their own map, yet utterly incompetent at history, geography, or Google use.
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Sucrose posted:I really wonder what goes through the heads of terrible map-drawers. Subtle trolling, or someone enthusiastic enough to make their own map, yet utterly incompetent at history, geography, or Google use. Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to internet users being hella dumb.
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Hah, and I just noticed that it says Charlesmagne.
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Mimir posted:Yes, the well known Baghdad Caliphate, as it was called by everyone. Contemporary with the Byzantine Empire, the Emirate of Cordoba, and the Holy Aachen Empire. Califate  ( )
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Sucrose posted:I really wonder what goes through the heads of terrible map-drawers. Subtle trolling, or someone enthusiastic enough to make their own map, yet utterly incompetent at history, geography, or Google use. It could be some kind of alt-history thing, like in conjunction with a story someone's writing or an RPG they're running?
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Farecoal posted:http://www.geocurrents.info/place/europe/mega-nationalist-fantasy-maps-of-the-balkans "Albanian Sea" oh my god
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Mister Adequate posted:"Albanian Sea" oh my god  Is that...supposed to be Serbia?
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Farecoal posted:http://www.geocurrents.info/place/europe/mega-nationalist-fantasy-maps-of-the-balkans My favorite map is the one where Greece has annexed almost all of Turkey yet North Cyprus still exists. Also that article is missing the Turkish version of these maps: 
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VitalSigns posted:
Yes it is, which I find really goddamn funny considering Serb nationalists have a real bug up their rear end about Albanians, especially (ethnic) Albanians in Kosovo. It's kind of refreshing seeing a Balkan nationalist map that so overtly and completely pisses on Glorious Srbja.
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NEED TOILET PAPER posted:Califate  Actually both are acceptable.
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HorseRenoir posted:My favorite map is the one where Greece has annexed almost all of Turkey yet North Cyprus still exists. you call that Greater Turkey? 
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Emanuel Collective posted:you call that Greater Turkey? Didn't some young turks think that should be the goal after the first world war? Speaking of the Balkans, here is a great way to piss off Turks abit and Greeks alot. 
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Crowsbeak posted:Didn't some young turks think that should be the goal after the first world war? Do Bulgarians(?) use "White Sea" for the Aegean Sea?
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Welp, my face sure is red now. Content: a map of the initial partition of the former Kingdom of Yugoslavia during WWII 
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OddObserver posted:Do Bulgarians(?) use "White Sea" for the Aegean Sea? Serbs, and Bulgarians do call it that.
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Farecoal posted:http://www.geocurrents.info/place/europe/mega-nationalist-fantasy-maps-of-the-balkans Wow, say what you will but the Slovaks are shooting way farther than any of those other states. 
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HorseRenoir posted:My favorite map is the one where Greece has annexed almost all of Turkey yet North Cyprus still exists. Suleiman had been dead for more than a decade by 1580, and Cyprus had been conquered by then too! 
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Wow, say what you will but the Slovaks are shooting way farther than any of those other states. That was created by a hungarian I believe.
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Antarctica belongs to the penguins. They have a developed economy that allows them to afford fresh vegetables and running water. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pD8aN9JAFM
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PittTheElder posted:Antarctica belongs to the penguins. They have a developed economy that allows them to afford fresh vegetables and running water. They've even developed their own dialect of Italian.
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    I wonder what would have happened to the rest of the populations (which constituted the majority that wasn't Armenian.)
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If those borders were actually enforced I bet it would have ended up as part of Russia, possibly repartitioned into an Armenia slightly bigger than actually existed, and a rump Turkish province.
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icantfindaname posted:If those borders were actually enforced I bet it would have ended up as part of Russia, possibly repartitioned into an Armenia slightly bigger than actually existed, and a rump Turkish province. Russia was supporting the Turks in overturning Sèvres as a "gently caress You!" to the Entente powers who were still fighting in Russia to overthrow the Bolsheviks. There's no way the Entente was going to let Russia have it had the Turkish Nationalists been defeated.
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icantfindaname posted:If those borders were actually enforced I bet it would have ended up as part of Russia, possibly repartitioned into an Armenia slightly bigger than actually existed, and a rump Turkish province. Yes and Stalin was just great to minorities wasn't he? Also lets look at the treaty of Sevres in detail.  Just look at how many people are put under a foreign power, or forced to be with people who had a history of ethnically cleansing them. It was such a great treaty based on ensuring peace wasn't it?
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Crowsbeak posted:Yes and Stalin was just great to minorities wasn't he? Also lets look at the treaty of Sevres in detail.  I said nothing about the treaty being good? Although, as an Armenian myself, anecdotally I can tell you that Armenians are a whole lot more positive about Russia than they are the Turks, and from what I hear Armenia is about the most pro-Russian country in the former USSR. Stalin apparently was comparatively good to them and is almost as popular there as he is in Russia itself.
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