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Crain posted:Because one is a trust fund with funding locked to income generated by interest from borrowing against the fund and from tax levied against the pay checks of those who will come to be paid from the fund. This means the fund has a documentable life span based on its income and expenses. Projected expenses are currently set to increase. Meanwhile income is in trouble due to a series of raids on the fund by past administrations and poor performing investments during the financial crisis that have left the fund lower than it should be. Aside from that the SS fund is only set to have expense overtake in the next 30~40 years at which point the deficit will be filled by federal funding. Put even more simply, because "welfare" is not a program, it is a category of programs (that includes Social Security, in my opinion).
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Mornacale posted:Put even more simply, because "welfare" is not a program, it is a category of programs (that includes Social Security, in my opinion). Welfare isn't even "welfare" any more, and hasn't been for TWENTY YEARS. My god these people cling to such bitter hatred of people less fortunate than themselves.
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Attached was only the line, "Dear Statists..." Congratulations! You found the only two blocks in Somalia still standing and not suffuse with human misery! 
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Apr 29, 2014 03:59
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Tharizdun posted:Attached was only the line, "Dear Statists..." Great! They should emigrate there and build their libertarian paradise (with Blackjack and Hookers!). Given how crushing government oppression in the west is, Somalia should rule the world by the end of the decade.
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Apr 29, 2014 04:08
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Tharizdun posted:Attached was only the line, "Dear Statists..." Assuredly, that road and that building were built by a single troop of armed men riding in an Isuzu flatbed truck. Freedom works.
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Apr 29, 2014 04:24
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Anybody happen to know where that picture's actually from?
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same racist rear end in a top hat as last time posted:So you form an opinion of a mans character based on a left wing media attack followed by your ability to use profanity. He has numerous individuals that have known him and his character personally come to his defense. I find it best not to attack anyone character unless I have personal knowledge..far as we know he could sponsor the United Negro Fund, raising adopted children, given his kidney to a wounded veteran... But as you and [Me] would say gently caress him...the article traces history to 1916..I'll bet he has a legit birth certificate. I would put this back in perspective and ask if you would visit Watts at 11:00pm any night of the week. I just want to say really quick that this guy once owned a bunch of land that he made into a baseball field. The local government then bought the land for roughly twice as much as it was worth, and he retired early on the proceeds. I take solace in the fact that he has alienated practically all of his friends by spouting right wing rhetoric almost constantly and the only reason my dad is still friends with him on facebook is because my dad loves to troll him
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Wanamingo posted:Anybody happen to know where that picture's actually from? I tried to find out if it was actually in somalia by running searches for similar "somalian road" images. All this accomplished was making me depressed. 
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Discendo Vox posted:I tried to find out if it was actually in somalia by running searches for similar "somalian road" images. All this accomplished was making me depressed.
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Apr 29, 2014 04:46
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Wanamingo posted:Anybody happen to know where that picture's actually from? I think it's a medical center in Djibouti but I can't quite prove it http://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=233705&start=45 http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=504782&page=8
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Wanamingo posted:Anybody happen to know where that picture's actually from? Djibouti: http://djiboutianalyses.wordpress.com/2014/01/28/la-reussite-du-president-ismael-omar-guelleh/
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Apr 29, 2014 04:47
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I heard North Korea also has some nice (empty) roads too.
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Apr 29, 2014 04:52
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Tharizdun posted:Attached was only the line, "Dear Statists..." Ahahaha wait, someone actually took the "Somalia is libertarian paradise!  " argument seriously?
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SedanChair posted:Assuredly, that road and that building were built by a single troop of armed men riding in an Isuzu flatbed truck. Freedom works.  They pulled themselves up by their bootstraps with nothing but a Hilux and a can-do attitude! 
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Gen. Ripper posted:Ahahaha wait, someone actually took the "Somalia is libertarian paradise! If you see someone use the word "statist" as a term of derogation unironically, they're very heavily committed to a set of positions that will lead them to absurd, strange places in the defense of their ideological affiliations. I'm not sure how to help someone back out of such a position once they get to that point.
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Azipod posted:
That's a land cruiser.
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Discendo Vox posted:If you see someone use the word "statist" as a term of derogation unironically, they're very heavily committed to a set of positions that will lead them to absurd, strange places in the defense of their ideological affiliations. I'm not sure how to help someone back out of such a position once they get to that point. At that point, the best option is likely just to sever. Keep them as friends on social media, though, if only to provide fodder for threads like this.
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Tharizdun posted:Attached was only the line, "Dear Statists..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics_of_Djibouti quote:Politics of Djibouti takes place in a framework of a semi-presidential republic, wherein executive power is exercised by the government. Legislative power is vested in both the government and parliament. The party system and parliament are dominated by the conservative People's Rally for Progress. In April 2010, a new national constitution was approved. The president serves as the head of state, and is popularly elected for single five year terms. Government is headed by the prime minister, who is appointed by the president and the Council of Ministers. There is also a 65-member chamber of deputies, where representatives are popularly elected for terms of five years. Administratively, the country is divided into five regions and one city, with eleven additional district subdivisions. Djibouti is also part of various international organizations, including the United Nations and Arab League.
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It really speaks to the laziness and/or idiocy of the sort of people who unironically use the word "statist" that they didn't even bother to find a picture that's actually a picture of Somalian infrastructure.
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AShamefulDisplay posted:I just want to say really quick that this guy once owned a bunch of land that he made into a baseball field. The local government then bought the land for roughly twice as much as it was worth, and he retired early on the proceeds. I'm going to guess he doesn't notice the hypocrisy in his quote. He reminds me of people my parents are friends with who honestly still think Obama is buying up all the ammo.
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So what you're telling me is that Conservatives are responsible for building that infrastructure? Checkmate Obamailures.
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gatesealer posted:I'm going to guess he doesn't notice the hypocrisy in his quote. He reminds me of people my parents are friends with who honestly still think Obama is buying up all the ammo. Yeah he's kind of a dumbass. I've called him out multiple times for hypocrisy, and he's reprimanded me for being a socialist, blaming it on my "progressive" education. I went to school in the district that elected Dave loving Reichert. A progressive education my rear end.
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Apr 29, 2014 08:36
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What's important is that we reminder that Somalia had no roads until its civil war was well underway. Checkmate, statists!
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Did a quick GIS for "capital of Somalia." There were a few shots of the overall city that seemed to look... okay... from a distance, but then there's also stuff like this:
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Guilty Spork posted:Did a quick GIS for "capital of Somalia." There were a few shots of the overall city that seemed to look... okay... from a distance, but then there's also stuff like this: No wonder most internet libertarians love it so much, they obviously have the same approach to waste management
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If you guys aren't signing up to emails from crazy groups you're missing out. Here's one I just got from Eugene Delgaudioquote:Dear [Tatum Girlparts], Public Advocate is insane and hilarious, they're super right wing social conservatives and like, every week they send out these lovely form letters. The best part is since I've been getting them since before the big gay rights swell I've been able to watch them shift in tone from "WE GOTTA FIGHT THE FAGGOTS GETTIN RIGHTS" to "OH GOD THE GAY MAFIA IS DOMINATING AMERICA" and it's pretty great. http://www.publicadvocateusa.org/
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Tatum Girlparts posted:If you guys aren't signing up to emails from crazy groups you're missing out. Here's one I just got from Eugene Delgaudio So I'm labeling some of those "acts" as stdh. Also, highly doubt they are responsible for pedophiles getting caught. But it's ok because they are for the family, and you can be for the family too by being against families.
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 Immigrants!  I like Teddy Roosevelt. He was a pretty progressive fellow in his day (and in some ways even in our day). He wrote these remarks just after the end of World War 1, so naturally nationalism was a big loving deal. Nevertheless, the hypocrisy is stark. Each new generation inevitably seems to think that their forefathers who were immigrants are now pure Americans and that the next wave of immigrants need to adapt or get out. I also imagine a number of Native Americans would have something to speak on the effect of how new immigrants should assimilate to their ways and language and allegiance, were they not all but eradicated in the centuries prior to then.
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Mo_Steel posted:
“Nineteenth-century democracy needs no more complete vindication for its existence than the fact that it has kept for the white race the best portions of the new world’s surface.” -- President Theodore Roosevelt Ask 'em if they agree with those statements too, or if maybe even the most progressive thinkers of the 1910s were still in the loving 1910s and could be racist without meaning to sometimes.
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The owner of a local shop (that no longer works on customer's cars because it's beneath them) just liked this article:quote:Mark Cuban, the outspoken owner of the Dallas Mavericks and an investor on Shark Tank, waited a few days before speaking out about Clippers’ owner Donald Sterling’s racist comments. When he did finally start talking about it, he had a lot to say. AFAIK it's stdh.txt with a splash of "Sterling is a racist, but do you know who's way worse? MARK CUBAN!!!!!!!"
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Phone posted:The owner of a local shop (that no longer works on customer's cars because it's beneath them) just liked this article: I'd hope someone who understands that racism is an awful thing and is able to say so clearly and coherently would also understand that a decent amount of people would go "No more homophobes or anti-semites? sign me the gently caress up". It's supposed to be a slippery slope but it's more like a slip and slide. It's awesome.
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E-Ed Meese? Been a while since I've seen him invoked.
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Knight posted:20% of households in America report no income
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Knight posted:20% of households in America report no income Were they skirting the poverty line on two incomes before? If they were both working 40 hours a week at minimum wage with 4 kids, this might actually be a wise financial decision. Unlike at higher income levels, the poor do get shafted with scenarios where earning a dollar more can result in hundreds of dollars less.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:the poor do get shafted with scenarios where earning a dollar more can result in hundreds of dollars less. benefits are sliding scale too, no?
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Maybe Caire Innet's spouse makes a lot of money and Caire Innet is working for minimum wage. When you start to factor in day care, transportation costs, food, clothes, etc the extra income might not be worth it. I'm sure they have more take home pay with two incomes but it might not be worth 50 hours of Caire Innet's life each week. Of course the rage should be pointed at her company paying crap wages instead of the government taxing them too much. Also, if I'm right must be nice to be that financially secure.
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Spangly A posted:benefits are sliding scale too, no? hahahhahaha you must not be American
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Tharizdun posted:hahahhahaha you must not be American Well I'm from the UK and we have a cutoff point between 16-35 hours where you are guaranteed to lose money at minimum wage, but that was designed out of malice. You'd think people writing the bills would notice these things. Thankfully the poors are too malnourished to work it out 
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