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axeil posted:The thread in SAS just copy/pasted a tweet indicating that had the NBAPA not been happy with Silver's ruling, there would've been a boycott of tonight's game. "There is power in a factory, power in the line Power in the hands if a worker But it all amounts to nothing if together we don't stand There is power in a Union..."
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^^^^^Every once in a great while there is a positive bit of labor news like this and it fills my black heart with joy.axeil posted:The thread in SAS just copy/pasted a tweet indicating that had the NBAPA not been happy with Silver's ruling, there would've been a boycott of tonight's game. Woah, no wonder they crushed him. If the players are willing to boycott a playoff game, and will be supported by everyone when they do so, the NBA has no other options.
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Gerund posted:While yes, 1 dollar isn't fair market value, neither is a straight free-market auction value: the league has to approve the owner first and foremost. Its only the highest bid of the 'appropriate owner' that matters, not whatever enriches Sterling's pocket. League approval is balanced against the interests of the shareholders. This is a fairly routine move in business with a huge body of case law behind it. Just substitute "board approval" with "league approval". Trying to gut the sale price to make certain the "right" person gets it will have a class action lawsuit deployed so fast your head will spin. You need a VERY compelling reason to turn down a superior offer on the grounds of leadership.
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Fried Chicken posted:You need a VERY compelling reason to turn down a superior offer on the grounds of leadership.
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Apr 29, 2014 21:06
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Fried Chicken posted:League approval is balanced against the interests of the shareholders. This is a fairly routine move in business with a huge body of case law behind it. Just substitute "board approval" with "league approval". Trying to gut the sale price to make certain the "right" person gets it will have a class action lawsuit deployed so fast your head will spin. You need a VERY compelling reason to turn down a superior offer on the grounds of leadership. Consider that the last time a BoG sale went through in the NBA there was a +100m bid on the table that didn't go through, to a ownership party FAR less under the gun than Sterling... evidence suggests that the league's interests are very strong in the matter.
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Apr 29, 2014 21:11
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Apparently Sterling said shortly before the presser that the Clippers were "not for sale". Really hoping someone tracks him down ASAP to see if he's standing on that. Don't even give him a night to sleep on it, make him show his rear end immediately.
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Apr 29, 2014 21:12
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JT Jag posted:A compelling reason like "hahaha no loving way will we let Rush Limbaugh own an NFL team." A compelling reason like the players union won't stand for it, just like how they were going to boycott the playoff game, yes. You guys act like this isn't going to be handled by the lawyers specifically so no one can point to it and say "they rigged it to cost him money!", because if that happens, lawsuit city.
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Apr 29, 2014 21:15
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Fried Chicken posted:AP is saying a judge just struck down Wisconsin voter ID law I know one of the lawyers involved, the AP story is accurate. The laws were struck down under the VRA Section 2 claims only, not the constitutional claims (though with dicta that they'd have won on the constitutional claims also). Reading a copy of the opinion is my afternoon snack. Ahahaha: "as the plaintiffs unrebutted evidence shows, a person would have to be insane to commit voter-impersonation fraud." Kalman fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Apr 29, 2014 |
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If I were a racist, self-made multi-billionaire and I only spent 12 million on the team back in the day, I would drag this poo poo out to the end and make sure as many people connected to the team suffer just as a big gently caress you to the world. Wanna boycott the game? Go for it.
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Apr 29, 2014 21:23
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Relentlessboredomm posted:^^^^^Every once in a great while there is a positive bit of labor news like this and it fills my black heart with joy. Yeah I'm assuming Chris Paul (head of the union) let Silver know what their decision was prior to his press conference. This is also probably why every single NBA owner is in the process of indicating they'll vote to force a sale. I know I saw a tweet from Mark Cuban and the owner of the Bulls. I'm sure more are coming in the next few hours.
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Apr 29, 2014 21:24
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Don't sell the team at all. Reincorporate it as a non - profit with all proceeds going to children's sports leagues and facilities in the LA area.
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Apr 29, 2014 21:30
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So is Rush stepping in to talk about how this is the same union/PC bullying that kept him from buying an NFL team, yet? He has to be talking about this.
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axeil posted:Yeah I'm assuming Chris Paul (head of the union) let Silver know what their decision was prior to his press conference. This is also probably why every single NBA owner is in the process of indicating they'll vote to force a sale. I know I saw a tweet from Mark Cuban and the owner of the Bulls. I'm sure more are coming in the next few hours. Yeah, whoever that is. Probably some nobody who's not as famous as Mark Cuban.
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De Nomolos posted:So is Rush stepping in to talk about how this is the same union/PC bullying that kept him from buying an NFL team, yet? He has to be talking about this. People only see two sides to any given issue. If Rush starts throwing elbows at the NBA, people are going to think he's standing with Sterling, and Sterling is radioactive right now. I think even Rush has sense enough to give it a week.
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amanasleep posted:Yeah, whoever that is. Probably some nobody who's not as famous as Mark Cuban. The only thing Jerry Reisensorf is famous for is driving away Phil Jackson after 6 championships because of ego.
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Apr 29, 2014 21:38
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Joementum posted:He's currently telling Fox News that he's not planning on selling the team. If the NBA actually does have 3/4 of the owners on board, he's not gonna have a goddamn choice. Looks like the right's just rallying to him now, though. Clive Bundy's 15 minutes must be over.
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Alter Ego posted:If the NBA actually does have 3/4 of the owners on board, he's not gonna have a goddamn choice. Looks like the right's just rallying to him now, though. Clive Bundy's 15 minutes must be over. Got a link to examples? My blood pressure is to low right now
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Ron Jeremy posted:Don't sell the team at all. Reincorporate it as a non - profit with all proceeds going to children's sports leagues and facilities in the LA area. Sell it to the players and make it a co-op 
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Alter Ego posted:If the NBA actually does have 3/4 of the owners on board, he's not gonna have a goddamn choice. Looks like the right's just rallying to him now, though. Clive Bundy's 15 minutes must be over. Also if the story about armed checkpoints is true, Bundy's going to lose the small portion of the right that can at least see reality from where they're standing.
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Speaking of Californians, Senator Barbara Boxer just tried to make a hip-hop joke on the Senate floor.quote:"Suppose the other side had had taken that attitude, don't raise it," Boxer said, according to a transcript. "Well, it would still be, I guess, a buck an hour -- 50 cents if you were kids. Today 50 Cents is a singing group. Am I right about that? Okay. So here's where we are. Instead we've raised the minimum wage over and over and over again." Personally, I think this could be solved by taxing the Cash Money Millionaires at a higher rate.
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Joementum posted:The Governor (who they're trying to impeach) vetoed it last year, so the Missouri House decided to try again and has passed a law banning state and local officials from adopting any policy tied to Agenda 21. Not to get too far off of NBA chat but as a proud Missourian I'm concerned. Haven't really gone into depth on agenda 21 but seems like its mostly a bigass guidance document for sustainable development. You know, guidance on crazy things like providing sewer and safe drinking water to developments or policy that would prevent your neighbor on the hill from dumping poo poo tons of runoff on your land. Literally everything in a City's zoning/development code could be tied back to this some how. So if this should pass wouldn't it effectively nullify most city's code and zoning regs? Can I, as a developer, start cramming trailer houses next to the McMansion down the block and casually direct the sewer to discharge to their pool?
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Joementum posted:Speaking of Californians, Senator Barbara Boxer just tried to make a hip-hop joke on the Senate floor. What's the marginal tax rate for someone making over a Chamillion dollars a year, anyway?
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fishhooked posted:So if this should pass wouldn't it effectively nullify most city's code and zoning regs? Can I, as a developer, start cramming trailer houses next to the McMansion down the block and casually direct the sewer to discharge to their pool?
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Fried Chicken posted:Got a link to examples? My blood pressure is to low right now Check the twitter link's responses for one. EDIT: Also: Eric Bolling sounds like someone who needs to become acquainted with reality, stat. Beamed fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Apr 29, 2014 |
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protastic posted:Tanks are possibly the worst kind of armed response anyone could give these people. Actual operational problems aside, can you imagine the massive persecution boner it would give the far right? They'd start painting this batshit militia as the American equivalent of Tank Man. They absolutely want a show of force on the part of the government, to validate their crazy conspiracy theories and such; that's what this has always been about.
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Beamed posted:Check the twitter link's responses for one. Does twitter weigh what responses it shows based off their profile data if you, like how google does targeted returns? Because I'm getting stuff like quote:@FoxNews PERHAPS IT IS TIME FOR THE PLAYERS THEMSELVES TO FORM THEIR OWN LEAGUE AND LEAVE THE PIG OWNERS IN THEIR FILTH. (https://twitter.com/LibbyLab/status/461221972840419329) Not #tcot stuff
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So are teams called franchises for shits and giggles? I keep hearing/seeing poo poo about how the league can't outright revoke ownership without providing some kind of satisfactory buyout to Sterling, but I can't imagine the NBA, were they a franchise issuer, would be so stupid to draft a contract without some kind of allowance for brand protection and prevention from having to buy out racist fucks who paid enough money back when the NBA board of governors was closer to the CPAC committee than what it is today.
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Joementum posted:Speaking of Californians, Senator Barbara Boxer just tried to make a hip-hop joke on the Senate floor. Nothing more amusing than watching old white people try to use pop-culture references.
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Joementum posted:Speaking of Californians, Senator Barbara Boxer just tried to make a hip-hop joke on the Senate floor. Actually thanks to the Bush tax cuts and favorable offshore incorporation strategies they became the Cash Money Billionaires, possibly Trillionaires. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2RZLbkBfDc&t=284s
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Just read the past ~50 posts about Sterling getting owned by the NBA, the Wisconsin Voter ID Law getting tossed in court, and Kerry demanding that other nations pick up the slack so we can reduce our military presence. I lurk this thread every day and this is a good day 
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I will only give a poo poo about that Wisconsin decision if it goes to the Supreme Court. The rest of the loving southwest still has to live with voter id.
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Joementum posted:Speaking of Californians, Senator Barbara Boxer just tried to make a hip-hop joke on the Senate floor. Can we just have Boxer have two votes in the senate and fire Feinstein out of a cannon?
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I know it is the Daily show, but... like the onion, they have racism covered. http://thedailyshow.cc.com/full-episodes/a69rw6/april-28--2014---mookie-wilson I'm racist, but my Dick and my wallet are not. Yep. Pohl fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Apr 29, 2014 |
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Old James posted:They aren't building them in Texas. These are the engineering/marketing/white collar jobs. Actually, they've been building the Tundra in San Antonio for about a decade. If we can build the Highlander, Sequoia and Sienna in Southern Indiana with no real supplier issues, Texas has nothing to worry about. From living in both Indiana and Texas, let me tell you, Central Texas' infrastructure is leagues ahead of anything in Indiana.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Can we just have Boxer have two votes in the senate and fire Feinstein out of a cannon? Boxer just supported this so I'd rather not.
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I did not see a lifetime ban on Sterling coming. Props for Adam Silver on doing the right thing.thefncrow posted:No. Fried Chicken posted:Got a link to examples? My blood pressure is to low right now Let's go back to some bad news. The party of small government, small businesses, and less regulations on the private sector is trying to make it harder for small craft brewers to operate in Florida. This bill passed the Senate today. quote:TALLAHASSEE -- The Florida Senate further watered down a beer bill Monday that has become a fight over control of the state's growing craft brew industry. And have a couple of bonus articles on the subject: An editorial by Stargel defending big government harassing craft breweries. The money quote: "First, I want to establish that I am, and always will be, a small-government Republican... [but] the three-tier is the backbone of societal protections against rampant alcoholism of the 1920s." The owner of Florida's best-known craft brewery will consider leaving Florida if SB 1714 passes. Some of you might think it's just beer, but this is the perfect example of Republicans loving private sector regulations if they enrich their financiers, and there's no guarantee that a similar bill won't be proposed in other states. Plus I love good beer, dammit.
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Radish posted:Boxer just supported this so I'd rather not. Ughhhhhhh gently caress those two.
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FAUXTON posted:So are teams called franchises for shits and giggles? There are brand protections, certainly. There are also owner and shareholder protections to counterbalance them. You will see some sound and fury and probably a lawsuit from Sterling, but he is going to be removed from ownership. The new owner will be someone acceptable to the league, but will pay a reasonable approximation of the value. The shareholders will receive a reasonable sum, counterbalanced by the fact that Sterling represented a drag on the business so any loss removing him is basically the NPV of his future horse poo poo. The other 29 owners will all get their cut of the sales price and add it to the pile of money they sleep with "sports hostesses" on every night. You are not going to see the new owner get the team for $3.50 as punishment to Sterling. The fact that this was ever any contention of this fact has to be proof of those psychological studies showing people can talk themselves into defending things they know are wrong just because someone disagrees with them.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Ughhhhhhh gently caress those two. Yeah I feel ya. 
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Fried Chicken posted:The fact that this was ever any contention of this fact has to be proof of those psychological studies showing people can talk themselves into defending things they know are wrong just because someone disagrees with them. Or because not all of us were aware of the legal issues you've pointed out in this regard. You know, whichever.
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