Gravy Train Robber posted:A new Defenders, headlined by Doctor Strange and Ghostverine. I actually checked out C2E2 news before realizing you were joking. 
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Apr 28, 2014 04:16
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:I actually checked out C2E2 news before realizing you were joking. Sorry! Although given that they just pulled Nightcrawler out of the afterlife, I'm pretty sure Kurt will be more than happy to return the favor.
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Apr 28, 2014 05:00
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Rhyno posted:Frank decided to pick up the mantel in the regular continuity. That wasn't all that great. Frank being chosen to do so, being crazy good at it, and the Illuminati establishing a Captain Americacorps was the best possible storyline.
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Apr 28, 2014 05:29
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Can I just say that a Ghost Wolverine line of comics, where he fights stuff in the afterlife, sounds kinda awesome? Like, if you're going to give Wolverine "some time off" without actually removing the character, making him a ghost sounds hilarious. Bonus points if his only real friend is Dr. Strange. Hah.
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Apr 28, 2014 07:43
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There are a bunch of dead Avengers that featured in Chaos War. Dead Wolverine could team up with them.
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Apr 28, 2014 10:38
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Shinjobi posted:Can I just say that a Ghost Wolverine line of comics, where he fights stuff in the afterlife, sounds kinda awesome? Like, if you're going to give Wolverine "some time off" without actually removing the character, making him a ghost sounds hilarious. Bonus points if his only real friend is Dr. Strange. Hah. This book already kind of happened. The last time he "died" his soul was sent to Hell while a demon possessed his body and it was Wolverine vs demons and Satan and of course somehow still Sabretooth while the X-Men tried to stop his body from killing everything.
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Apr 28, 2014 10:43
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Schneider Heim posted:There are a bunch of dead Avengers that featured in Chaos War. Dead Wolverine could team up with them. Coming soon, Avengers Afterlife. Starting Wolverine, featuring Captain Marvel, Nova, Dr. Druid, and Stature.
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Apr 28, 2014 16:57
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SilverSupernova posted:Coming soon, Avengers Afterlife. Starting Wolverine, featuring Captain Marvel, Nova, Dr. Druid, and Stature. Is Doctor Druid there just to hook up the tv and blu ray player?
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Apr 28, 2014 20:52
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bobkatt013 posted:Is Doctor Druid there just to hook up the tv and blu ray player? Whither the HDMI?
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Apr 28, 2014 20:57
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Is it me, or will Rogue have aged exactly like Maggie Chascarillo?
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Apr 30, 2014 02:46
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Schneider Heim posted:There are a bunch of dead Avengers that featured in Chaos War. Dead Wolverine could team up with them. That was cool because Van Lente explicitly ended the book with the Rita DeMara version of Yellowjacket and the original Swordsman alive again (and there was a good hook for Rita given she spent the series depressed that nobody actually gave a poo poo about her death meaning she left no impact on the world) and Brevoort immediately turned around and said it didn't count because nobody had any immediate plans for them. He did the same thing with Namorita after the time displaced version of her or whatever came back in Nova. Yost said he wasn't allowed to use her for New Warriors and IIRC someone asked Brevoort and he said she "probably died in space" or whatever and that he didn't really care because bringing her back would "devalue Civil War" or some bullshit.
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Apr 30, 2014 02:52
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Suben posted:bringing her back would "devalue Civil War" or some bullshit. How can you devalue something that has no value to begin with?
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Apr 30, 2014 03:01
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Actually I think it was just that it would devalue her death but her death (and the other New Warriors) is what kicks off Civil War anyway so... Also the entire point of Civil War was that Quesada wanted heroes being "less chummy" (it was his third genie after undoing Spidey's marriage and reducing the mutant population) so gently caress that book for giving us a glut of "heroes vs. heroes, everyone is an rear end in a top hat" stories.
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Apr 30, 2014 03:13
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Gynovore posted:This. With seven titles of his own and appearing in 23 more, Wolverine accounts for over 68% of Marvel's gross income. He will never, ever die permanently. Ever. This is not to say that Wolverine doesn't appear in a lot of comics, but in recent years he probably hasn't appeared in nearly as many comics as Iron Man, Captain America, Spider-Man, Thor, Deadpool, etc. He's also been remarkably anemic in terms of sales. I don't think a "big Wolverine story" has sold that well since Old Man Logan. Which you know, may be why they think the time is ripe to kill him off for a spell.
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Apr 30, 2014 04:00
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Suben posted:Actually I think it was just that it would devalue her death but her death (and the other New Warriors) is what kicks off Civil War anyway so... But really it's not. Stamford's death kicks off Civil War. The whole thing's about how civilians are unsafe in Marvel. Any of the New Warriors coming back wouldn't really matter any more than any other superhero resurrection. I mean, Speedball came back (I know Speedball never died, but happy-go-lucky Speedball came back after being grimdark Penance).
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Apr 30, 2014 04:32
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Suben posted:That was cool because Van Lente explicitly ended the book with the Rita DeMara version of Yellowjacket and the original Swordsman alive again (and there was a good hook for Rita given she spent the series depressed that nobody actually gave a poo poo about her death meaning she left no impact on the world) and Brevoort immediately turned around and said it didn't count because nobody had any immediate plans for them. If that didn't leave such a bad taste in my mouth, I would consider Chaos War to be one of my all-time favorite comic events.
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Apr 30, 2014 04:59
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Marvel thread. I wasn't sure where else to ask. But I need your help. I'm really new to comics - but I just realized that I might never enjoy a character more than motherfuckin Doctor Strange. I love the idea of a dude who scoffs at living in a world where the godamned wolverine coexists with holy-poo poo ironman because their physical abilities are nothing in the face of that cosmic horror that is implied by the undeniable existence of magic/the occult/extra-dimensional horror. In any event, I'm reading through a digital copy of The Oath right now, and really enjoying it. There's not much out there on Doctor Strange. Apparently some kind of "annual" edition of Uncanny Avengers, that will address this magic-in-the-marvel-universe concept, is on sale tomorrow. Should I pick it up? Is there anything else out there on/related to Strange available, that I should check out? Why isn't this guy more popular? A Tasteful Nude fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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Apr 30, 2014 06:23
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He's not that popular because he can be seriously hard to write. As for stuff to read, the original Lee/Ditko Strange Tales are really good. Doctor Strange: The Oath is a pretty self-contained story, but it's not really full of Strange wandering the higher planes or anything like that.
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Apr 30, 2014 06:31
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Yeah, Strange is an awesome character that is nigh-impossible to write well; his powerset is quite literally 'do whatever the plot requires,' which makes it hard to keep the dramatic tension in a story high. That is one of the reasons why no one buys his books; basically every comics writer has a Doctor Strange pitch they'd love to write but Marvel knows full well they'd lose money because they always lose money. The original Lee/Ditko Strange Tales are probably your best bet, A_Ruse!, and Mark Waid had a Strange mini a few years back that I quite enjoyed; also, Matt Fraction's Defenders was a Doc Strange story at heart and was also awesome, so give that a try.
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Apr 30, 2014 06:41
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 Wildly out of character at times too. 
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Apr 30, 2014 06:43
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The problem with Fraction's Defenders is that it's not very new to comics friendly. But if you're willing to spend some time on wikipedia it's very, very good.
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Apr 30, 2014 06:43
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A_Ruse! posted:There's not much out there on Doctor Strange. Apparently some kind of "annual" edition of Uncanny Avengers, that will address this magic-in-the-marvel-universe concept, is on sale tomorrow. Should I pick it up? I anything else out there on/related to Strange available, that I should check out? Why is this guy not more popular? He's generally not more popular because he doesn't hang out with the more standard superheroes (who are of course the guys who move books). He generally has a problem that kind of befalls Superman in DC, in that he's really powerful so a lot of writers don't know how to work him in to the larger tapestry of the universe. He's so powerful, in fact, that a lot of the usual poo poo in the Marvel universe is just not worth his time compared to the cosmic horrors he has to deal with. However, that same Superman problem has another side, which is the case of jobbing hard when he's involved in a team. When the good Doctor actually does show up to help the Avengers out (or recently when he was an actual full-time member of the New Avengers) he almost always gets his rear end kicked by the villain-of-the-day to show how much of a threat said villain is. In short, Dr. Strange is not more popular because he's either doing cool things and not hanging out with Spider-Man/Wolverine/[popular character] or he is hanging out with popular characters and getting his poo poo kicked in. As for stuff he's in, the Defenders are pretty much Strange's very own super-team and while they don't have a current ongoing, Matt Fraction had a very excellent Defenders run recently. There's probably a bunch of other stuff people will recommend but you've already read the Oath and so that's pretty much all I've got on the character.
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Apr 30, 2014 06:43
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Mr. Maltose posted:He's not that popular because he can be seriously hard to write. As for stuff to read, the original Lee/Ditko Strange Tales are really good. Doctor Strange: The Oath is a pretty self-contained story, but it's not really full of Strange wandering the higher planes or anything like that.
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Apr 30, 2014 06:51
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Flameingblack posted:I hope Hickman writes a Doctor Strange on-going some day, because that guy alone made me fall in love with so many characters, and if anyone can write a great book about abstract, undefined heroes, powers, and places, it's Hickman. New Avengers #14 was largely Dr. Strange focused and is the best issue of the series so far. I would kill for a Hickman written Strange series.
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Apr 30, 2014 07:03
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Suben posted:Also the entire point of Civil War was that Quesada wanted heroes being "less chummy" (it was his third genie after undoing Spidey's marriage and reducing the mutant population) so gently caress that book for giving us a glut of "heroes vs. heroes, everyone is an rear end in a top hat" stories. It is Marvel's Identity Crisis, after all...
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Apr 30, 2014 08:59
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A_Ruse! posted:Marvel thread. I wasn't sure where else to ask. But I need your help. I'm really new to comics - but I just realized that I might never enjoy a character more than motherfuckin Doctor Strange. I love the idea of a dude who scoffs at living in a world where the godamned wolverine coexists with holy-poo poo ironman because their physical abilities are nothing in the face of that cosmic horror that is implied by the undeniable existence of magic/the occult/extra-dimensional horror. In any event, I'm reading through a digital copy of The Oath right now, and really enjoying it. SMP posted:New Avengers #14 was largely Dr. Strange focused and is the best issue of the series so far. I would kill for a Hickman written Strange series.
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Apr 30, 2014 12:20
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It's not 616 continuity but the Doctor Strange: Season One graphic novel by Greg Pak & Emma Rios is a great entry point and absolutely gorgeous (plus Wong is completely awesome in it).
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Apr 30, 2014 14:48
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Kaleidoscope posted:It's not 616 continuity but the Doctor Strange: Season One graphic novel by Greg Pak & Emma Rios is a great entry point and absolutely gorgeous (plus Wong is completely awesome in it). If you are talking entry points for Mr. Strange lets not leave out The Oath. redbackground posted:Yeah, that was a great Strange issue. More of that, please. Still waiting on him to come back, though I really hope whatever artist drew that issue is back by then too. Senor Candle fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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Apr 30, 2014 14:52
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Mr. Maltose posted:He's not that popular because he can be seriously hard to write. As for stuff to read, the original Lee/Ditko Strange Tales are really good. Doctor Strange: The Oath is a pretty self-contained story, but it's not really full of Strange wandering the higher planes or anything like that. Roger Stern wrote a really good story called Triumph and Torment, which delves into how a Sorcerer Supreme is chosen. Basically Strange has to prove himself worthy again and he wins. But Dr. Doom comes in second and the bylaws state Strange has to assist Doom with a favor. Doom wants to take on Mephisto and save his mother's soul. http://www.amazon.com/Dr-Strange-Do...ge+and+dr+droom It is really good and it is often referenced. This mini series by Waid is something I remember being good. Takes place after Strange is no longer Sorcerer Supreme. http://www.amazon.com/Strange-Doctor-Out-Mark-Waid/dp/0785144250/ref=sr_1_8?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1398869661&sr=1-8&keywords=doctor+strange
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Senor Candle posted:If you are talking entry points for Mr. Strange lets not leave out The Oath.
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Apr 30, 2014 16:02
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redbackground posted:According to the end of this week's New Avengers, he'll be back just in time to fight the Nope Not The Justice League. I just saw Valerio Schiti posted this on tumblr. He'll be back for the next issue! Some art from NA #18  Namor looks like he should be in a Kpop band.
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Apr 30, 2014 16:25
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Oh, hello, General Marvel Thread. The relaunch of Fantastic Four is up to issue #3, right? How is it so far? I'm not sure if after Hickman anyone can make an awesome FF run, but I'd love to hear otherwise.
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Apr 30, 2014 18:25
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Saoshyant posted:Oh, hello, General Marvel Thread. The relaunch of Fantastic Four is up to issue #3, right? How is it so far? I'm not sure if after Hickman anyone can make an awesome FF run, but I'd love to hear otherwise. I like Fraction's run on it well enough, but I dropped this one after the first issue.
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Apr 30, 2014 18:30
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Nope, not really worth reading. Not bad, just nothing new or interesting beyond red costumes.
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Apr 30, 2014 18:36
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Saoshyant posted:Oh, hello, General Marvel Thread. The relaunch of Fantastic Four is up to issue #3, right? How is it so far? I'm not sure if after Hickman anyone can make an awesome FF run, but I'd love to hear otherwise.
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Apr 30, 2014 18:39
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I'd like to see Gillen take a go at FF.
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Apr 30, 2014 18:47
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It's not Doctor Strange, but in the same vein I really quite liked the Doctor Voodoo series.
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Apr 30, 2014 19:11
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I am curious as to what's going to happen with Dr Strange being even more powerful after a career of constant nerfing. Maybe they'll try for the "It's not about having the power to save the day it's about saving the day without accidentally unraveling the universe." angle.
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Apr 30, 2014 19:17
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SirDan3k posted:I am curious as to what's going to happen with Dr Strange being even more powerful after a career of constant nerfing. Maybe they'll try for the "It's not about having the power to save the day it's about saving the day without accidentally unraveling the universe." angle. If Hickman can handle Franklin then I think he can handle Strange.
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hope and vaseline posted:I'd like to see Gillen take a go at FF. Would really like this. Generally, I feel like I could really enjoy a shuffling around of some of the bigger guys at Marvel to titles they haven't tangled with before. Question, has Fraction ever written any Spider-Man? I feel like he could really nail down the humor and the balance between the mask and Parker's personal life.
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