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Hey, remember that teacher in Montana who raped a student, got a 1 month sentence, and had the judge justify it on the grounds that "the student led him in"? Montana supreme court just overturned the sentence. Waiting to see what happens next here
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AShamefulDisplay posted:hahah... PHILLY!!! yup. I think what annoys me the most about these types is that they are really smug for being so incredibly dumb. Everyone is pretty dumb on most topics, but libertarian types really think that have the magic cure for every problem and that solution is always less government, *magic happens*, free enterprise saves everyone!
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 16:55 |
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I agree, we should have less government. *dies of lead poisoning and smallpox working 16 hour days in a factory at age 10*
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 17:15 |
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Cheekio posted:The youth movement for rebranding sociopathy as Libertarianism is so innocent it makes me cringe: They are always upper class, relatively attractive, healthy, white people. ALWAYS.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 17:22 |
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Radish posted:I think what annoys me the most about these types is that they are really smug for being so incredibly dumb. Everyone is pretty dumb on most topics, but libertarian types really think that have the magic cure for every problem and that solution is always less government, *magic happens*, free enterprise saves everyone! There's no reason to address the roads issue if rolling your eyes is working as a response. See: Achilles bragging about his demigodhood and dismissing detractors over 'that tiresome heel discussion'. edit: word good again. Pythagoras a trois fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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More meat for the Machine http://thinkprogress.org/health/2014/04/29/3432433/tennessee-criminalize-pregnant-women/ quote:Tennessee Gov. Bill Haslam (R) has approved a measure that will allow Tennessee to bring criminal charges against pregnant women who use drugs for potentially harming their fetuses, even though there isn’t conclusive scientific evidence that being exposed to illicit drugs in the womb causes long-term harm to children.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 17:32 |
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I brought it up with a friend yesterday that libertarianism is basically a superstitious cult with magic incantations and everything. But instead of putting hexes on people and crafting magic potions, they have a handful of "magic" phrases and have the basest and most superficial understanding of everything.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 17:34 |
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AShamefulDisplay posted:hahah... PHILLY!!! yup. "Mom, not now I was just about to explain who will build the roads to them--no but mom I can't set the table right now, the people need a real answer I can't leave them with just the Home Alone scream. Cook dinner later mom, I still need the kitchen...ugh fine! Tyrant. No nothing, nothing I didn't say anything."
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 17:47 |
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So in GOP news, Rick Scott had a roundtable with a bunch of old people in Boca Raton to hear from them how Obama's awful Medicare cuts that didn't happen are affecting them. Shocking only Rick Scott, everyone was reported to be happy with their Medicare coverage and showed support for the PPACA.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 17:50 |
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:I agree, we should have less government. Fortunately, that factory suffered a labor shortage after being unable to find new children willing to work in its unsafe conditions and the company went out of business as competitors with better factories increased production to meet the demand.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 17:57 |
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Diane Feinstein will not buy the L.A. Clippers.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:00 |
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Can anyone (Joementum) tell me whether it's worth my while to read Frances Lee's book on Congress?
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:05 |
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Senate republicans filibustered the minimum wage hike. Not surprising, but gives Dems something to campaign on
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:07 |
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Fried Chicken posted:Senate republicans filibustered the minimum wage hike. Not surprising, but gives Dems something to campaign on
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:14 |
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VitalSigns posted:"Mom, not now I was just about to explain who will build the roads to them--no but mom I can't set the table right now, the people need a real answer I can't leave them with just the Home Alone scream. Cook dinner later mom, I still need the kitchen...ugh fine! Tyrant. No nothing, nothing I didn't say anything." Although realistically she's way too young to know what Home Alone is.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:15 |
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ufarn posted:Can anyone (Joementum) tell me whether it's worth my while to read Frances Lee's book on Congress? I haven't read it and doubt I would. I prefer reading popular narratives over academic texts when it comes to books and will just try to find a summary article by the author if I'm looking for research. I also have to guess that there's more interesting research on partisan polarization in the US Senate that's come out since 2009.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:16 |
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Fried Chicken posted:Hey, remember that teacher in Montana who raped a student, got a 1 month sentence, and had the judge justify it on the grounds that "the student led him in"? Montana supreme court just overturned the sentence. Waiting to see what happens next here The gently caress?! This one completely slipped by me. Could I trouble you to refresh my memory, or do I not want to risk my bloodpressure?
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:18 |
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:I agree, we should have less government. If we roll back regulations far enough you can beat those diseases by dying in a Bangladesh style factory collapse instead.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:22 |
Roumba posted:Is there any kind of period in recent history where there was a prison or jail and it wasn't always nearly full or over-capacity and whoever was in charge said something like: "Well poo poo, I guess we didn't need this big of a place after all, or at least for a good while, make it a lasertag arena for the next 10 years." This was technically the U.S. in the 70's. Prison populations were dropping so low, there was very serious talk in a lot of states about closing down and demolishing prisons. But the people who make money off prisons didn't like the sound of that, so you get the War on Drugs and the War on Crime and boom, now we're the nation with highest incarceration rates on the planet.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:23 |
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Conservative writers say that Palin has finally gone too far with her waterboarding = baptism line, but is there a chance that her usual supporters will also be offended enough to desert her?
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:26 |
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TLM3101 posted:
Montana v. Rambold posted:¶9
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:29 |
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Radish posted:I think what annoys me the most about these types is that they are really smug for being so incredibly dumb. Everyone is pretty dumb on most topics, but libertarian types really think that have the magic cure for every problem and that solution is always less government, *magic happens*, free enterprise saves everyone! Whoever it was who coined the term Dunning-Krugerrands in reference to bitcoins deserves a Peabody.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:29 |
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JonathonSpectre posted:No biggie, they can just sell the state's parking meters to some Saudi Arabian conglomerate for 75 years to plug this year's budget shortfall caused by all these pesky "economic realities" getting in the way of Taxcutopia.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:32 |
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Samurai Sanders posted:Conservative writers say that Palin has finally gone too far with her waterboarding = baptism line, but is there a chance that her usual supporters will also be offended enough to desert her? quote:"If I thought that kind of hateful declaration and abuse of the Christian religion was what conservatism stood for, I wouldn't be able to call myself a conservative," he writes. Hate to break it to you, buddy...
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:34 |
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Antti posted:Unfortunately, I think that ship has sailed, in that American law enforcement is behaving like a military force. Yeah...I hear about how the NYPD is like the 5th largest military in the world from a lot of cops and those who apologize for them every time the trample someone's rights..
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:39 |
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Hate to break it to you, buddy... Yeah, I love how conservatives who want to seem "reasonable" are all up in arms about Palin's comment. They're not pissed at her for blaspheming Baptism, they're pissed because Palin chose an even more indelicate way to express what the entire right already feels about the entire Muslim world. They REALLY hate it when their masks are pulled off, and it's happening more and more. Makes me feel all toasty inside.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:41 |
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Alter Ego posted:Yeah, I love how conservatives who want to seem "reasonable" are all up in arms about Palin's comment. They're not pissed at her for blaspheming Baptism, they're pissed because Palin chose an even more indelicate way to express what the entire right already feels about the entire Muslim world. They REALLY hate it when their masks are pulled off, and it's happening more and more. Makes me feel all toasty inside. Pretty sure you meant hoods. You're welcome.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 18:51 |
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... Jesus. loving. Christ. An actual US Judge wrote an opinion that basically says "The loving slut wanted it, defendant is off the hook". I really did not expect that. What the gently caress is wrong with this man? I hope to whatever higher power there might be that the person handing down this verdict does not have children. gently caress.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 19:05 |
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Install Windows posted:How would the court find it coercive to raise money and give it to the states? You'll really have to show your work there. This pretty much describes the PPACA - how could it be coercive to give money to the states to implement a program? The Roberts court still found a way to shoot that down. "What if the Federal government threatens to cut it in the future?" etc. Coerciveness was a huge factor in striking that down. The Supreme Court is not going to let the Federal government take control of taxation and apportion it back to the states, at least not to the degree of entirely replacing state taxation. It would utterly and permanently disrupt the balance of the "states rights"/federalism dogma that half of the Court subscribes to, and the court is incredibly politicized - most of those judges are going to find a way to justify shutting down whatever Bad Thing Fox News is whining about even if it weren't a direct affront to their philosophy. Basically I just don't see the court saying "yes" to it unless states have at least one opportunity to withdraw from the taxation and apportionment, along the lines of their ruling on the PPACA Medicaid expansion. Maybe the opportunity to withdraw in any given year. Either way it would really disrupt the whole point of the arrangement, because unlike highway funding the court would proffer the opportunity to avoid the Federal taxation as well as the spending, and the only thing that really encourages states to join this arrangement is the threat of having their citizens doubly-taxed (for no benefit) if they don't. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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Paul MaudDib posted:This pretty much describes the PPACA - how could it be coercive to give money to the states to implement a program? The Roberts court still found a way to shoot that down. "What if the Federal government threatens to cut it in the future?" etc. Wasn't the reason for that because they were going to cut the existing Medicaid funding?
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 19:11 |
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Paul MaudDib posted:This pretty much describes the PPACA - how could it be coercive to give money to the states to implement a program? The Roberts court still found a way to shoot that down. "What if the Federal government threatens to cut it in the future?" etc. Well, they only give the states 90% of the money eventually. I would think it'd be more like federal highway laws? There's this money available for this if you meet these conditions, take it or leave it. There's some logic behind it.
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computer parts posted:Wasn't the reason for that because they were going to cut the existing Medicaid funding? Yes, and that was the provision of Medicaid expansion the Court struck out.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 19:23 |
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Saki posted:What on earth is going on in Louisiana to skew those incarceration rates so highly? You should absolutely read that series I posted earlier because they get into depth about it but here's a bit that will explain part of it: quote:With little oversight from the Department of Corrections, sheriffs wheel and deal among themselves for inmates. Cupp and other rural north Louisiana wardens drum up business with daily rounds of phone calls to their suppliers -- urban areas such as New Orleans, Baton Rouge and Shreveport that produce more criminals than their own jails can hold. The mad scramble to build prisons has become a mad scramble for inmates. http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2012/05/in_world_of_prisons_some_rural.html
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TLM3101 posted:... Jesus. loving. Christ. An actual US Judge wrote an opinion that basically says "The loving slut wanted it, defendant is off the hook". I really did not expect that. What the gently caress is wrong with this man? I hope to whatever higher power there might be that the person handing down this verdict does not have children. I hate this loving country so much. I hope I make enough money to leave this shithole before we start World War 3. Nothing will ever get better and it will always get worse. The rest of the world is heading down the shitter fast too but at least they're not already 10 feet down the loving pipe like we are. Oh hey the latest news out of the country of Cliven Bundy? The militias set up armed checkpoints near his property.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 19:35 |
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I somehow missed this story earlier, but it kinda ties into that crazy rear end in a top hat in Minnesota that executed those teenagers. http://missoulian.com/news/local/suspect-in-big-sky-student-s-shooting-gets-death-threats/article_fdaccb9c-d005-11e3-a429-0019bb2963f4.html quote:Missoula shooting suspect gets death threats He straight up murdered a kid and now wants everyone to feel bad for him because the internet is mean.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 19:38 |
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A series of fantastically bad ideas.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 19:39 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:I hate this loving country so much. I hope I make enough money to leave this shithole before we start World War 3. Nothing will ever get better and it will always get worse. The rest of the world is heading down the shitter fast too but at least they're not already 10 feet down the loving pipe like we are. Huh? Are there like, local police and governements there?
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 20:11 |
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mcmagic posted:Huh? Are there like, local police and governements there? Not since the government knuckled under, no, since we wouldn't want to give them what they want by, say, keeping armed gangs from terrorizing the locals. Letting the militias take over the area sure did de-escalate that situation, I'm sure they'll totally arrest him the next time he steps into a non-militia controlled grocery store for supplies! (wait, no, he has lackeys to do that for him now) Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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Paul MaudDib posted:Not since the government knuckled under, no, since we wouldn't want to give them what they want by, say, keeping armed gangs from terrorizing the locals. But those people that gave up were federal agents from the BLM... What about the local police?
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I mean, what are the militia groups' long term plans here? Are they just going to settle down in Bunkerville for good, make it a fortified community and declare their secession from the United States or something? I'm pretty sure we're all expecting them to get bored and leave eventually.
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