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While it takes about a million years to update, I heard that some goons gave free uncommon/commons etc to MTGO newbies like myself, does that still happen? My MTGO name is BluDragoon, going to try and learn how to play this as I go along.
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Samael posted:While it takes about a million years to update, I heard that some goons gave free uncommon/commons etc to MTGO newbies like myself, does that still happen? My MTGO name is BluDragoon, going to try and learn how to play this as I go along. I've got like, 3000 draft orphans in my collection and you're welcome to whatever you want when I get home from work, add tha_snazzle to your buddy list.
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Apr 30, 2014 20:18
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Loving Life Partner posted:I've got like, 3000 draft orphans in my collection and you're welcome to whatever you want when I get home from work, add tha_snazzle to your buddy list. Great! Thanks, added you 
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Apr 30, 2014 20:40
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Tharizdun posted:^ Man that's a lovely list of bad/common wraths and P3K cards that reprints won't affect the original's price of. Missed opportunity to inject some Wastelands and/or Rishidan Ports, IMO The problem with this logic is that the price was going up no matter who did it. The cards supply has been creeping down and demand for Commander remains strong. Commander 2013 only helped demand for Commander 2011 cards. Ghave was going up. Travis just bough some first, then sold them later when the price went up. Your going with the line that because Travis, and others like him, bought Ghave's the prices went up. Thats a fine story but for that to be true, here is something that also has to be true. All the online retailers, CFB, SCG, and so on that raised their buylist prices, have to believe in a false demand for Ghave. Basically they are ALL WRONG and the card really shouldn't be higher priced, so they're throwing their money away to Travis for a $4 card that shouldn't be buylisting at $5 and retailing for $10. Is that what you think?
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Apr 30, 2014 20:57
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Stinky Pit posted:Imperial Seal is 800 dollars because its an incredibly rare card that has a powerful effect. While we don't know the exact print run for P3K but we do know it was the smallest print run from the Portal line, a product already with a small print run compared to typical sets its very likely that its print run is far closer to the 50 Million for ABU Combined than it is for say, Odyssey. Its not surprising Imperial Seal is so expensive. No doubt it's both rare and good which is why it was a $150 card until CFB cornered the market on them and jumped it to $800 over the span of three months at the end of '11.
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Apr 30, 2014 21:16
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Greed can be seen as a motivating factor for a lot, but you should really be aware of Ambition's Cost. When you go to the Bargaining Table sometimes you realize that your Wheeling and Dealing can really Overburden you. What seems like a Windfall may end up being a source of Distress, and the High Market sometimes just ends up being a series of Mind Games. I can appreciate that the Merchant Scroll at hand wasn't just revealing some Tricks of the Trade or some Trade Secrets but rather a Revelation with regards to the Diminishing Returns that exist in Reality. Really, I just don't get why anyone would have so much Anger about some Quiet Speculation. Zoness fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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Apr 30, 2014 21:18
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Count Bleck posted:This is up further on the page. Regardless of what any of you took from the article, the intent was to illustrate how difficult it actually can be to turn a profit on a spec even when everything goes right. If anything it should dissuade people from doing it. It most certainly wasn't telling filthy casuals to stay out of my business. The misconception that some of you are carrying, and that many in the market are carrying, is that speculators can meaningfully move a market. That just isn't possible. Sometimes those individuals can temporarily spike a card's price but without real demand from real players the price won't stick, buylists won't increase because nobody is buying the card from stores, and it will be back to the original price within a week or two. We've seen it time and time again. I've been considering writing about the perceived and real impact speculators can have on the market ever since the Bitterblossom unbanning and people flipped out about this supposed evil cabal. I don't know that it will change anyone's mind but at least I'll know I put it out there.
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Apr 30, 2014 21:19
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So how good a time is this for getting your playset of snapcaster mages and cryptic commands?
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Apr 30, 2014 21:23
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Mordieth posted:So how good a time is this for getting your playset of snapcaster mages and cryptic commands? It's not going to get any better until after August, and it may in fact never get better.
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Apr 30, 2014 21:28
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Snapcasters will only keep going up, I'm sure of that.
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Apr 30, 2014 21:28
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Mordieth posted:So how good a time is this for getting your playset of snapcaster mages and cryptic commands? Worse than October of last year, better than anytime until they reprint them or ban them from modern.
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Apr 30, 2014 21:31
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Yeah that was my impression aswell, don't suppose there is a chance of cryptic command ever going out of style either
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Apr 30, 2014 21:32
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The announcement says that there will be 6 cards with new art. The 'spoiler' has 8.
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Apr 30, 2014 21:46
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vOv posted:The announcement says that there will be 6 cards with new art. The 'spoiler' has 8. No, it has six. Armageddon (new art) Upheaval Firespout (new art) Child of Alara Virtue's Ruin Rolling Earthquake Wrath of God (new art) Smokestack ( new art) Burning of Xinye Cataclysm (new art) Living death (new art) Decree of Annihilation The first list incorrectly identified Decree of Annihilation as having new art, but it doesn't. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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Apr 30, 2014 21:51
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:No doubt it's both rare and good which is why it was a $150 card until CFB cornered the market on them and jumped it to $800 over the span of three months at the end of '11. This doesn't happen. Not with Imperial Seal not with SCG and Underground Sea or whatever imagined conspiracy the MTG community thinks is happening. It's not a good way to make money when you're a retailer with the kind of presence that CFB or SCG has. In order to accomplish the goal of getting to set your own price you'd have to spend so much time and money. You'd be better served selling every Imperial Seal you bought at 100 dollars, for 150, then you would be buying enough Imperial Seals that you could then sell a few for 800 now and again. If the demand didn't exist to take the price past 150 normally, sure you might be able to strong arm a few sales at 800 but your sales are going to be much much lower. CFB charges 800 dollars for the card because when they want to buy it from someone else it costs them 400+ dollars, not because they have a secret chest at their headquarters with 3000 copies. It's easy to think "Well if I have every copy of a card, I can ask whatever I want for it" but that doesn't mean youll make money. If I somehow got my hands on every single copy of Vizzerdrix in the entire world it might be rare enough that people might be willing to pay a few dollars for it, but I wouldn't be able to sell enough copies to ever make back what I spent getting all those loving cards. Ciprian Maricon fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Apr 30, 2014 |
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Apr 30, 2014 21:57
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Quick get in these events everyone! So uh, stupid question. I can sign out once I'm in the events, right? Or do I hope I don't crash in the next few days.
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Apr 30, 2014 22:02
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Snacksmaniac posted:Quick get in these events everyone! Yes, you will remain signed on them.
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Apr 30, 2014 22:06
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That ftv thing is obviously fake for several reasons: - It conveniently avoids showing the salient parts of the new frame in all the cards except the fully spoiled one - It's god drat blurry in tyool 2014 - And the real kicker: The cards aren't even foil....
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Apr 30, 2014 22:11
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The frenzy for those free spots apparently caused many other people to freeze or crash, including a bunch of people streaming.
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Apr 30, 2014 22:14
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Spectral Werewolf posted:The frenzy for those free spots apparently caused many other people to freeze or crash, including a bunch of people streaming. Numot sitting on priority for 5 minutes was pretty amusing I guess.
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Apr 30, 2014 22:19
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My BTT draft just completely froze on me for 10 minutes. And I can't log into wizards to file a reimbursement yet. Everything is on fire?
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Apr 30, 2014 22:20
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I can just picture the scene at WOTC HQ: "God dammit, we forgot the 'adequately reinforce the servers' step AGAIN?!" Then Worth Wollpert throws his hat on the ground and stomps on it while a laugh track plays
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Apr 30, 2014 22:22
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Both Modern Masters events—that's 512 people—filled in under a minute.
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Apr 30, 2014 22:29
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Turns out, people love freerolls. Just wait until they actually fire, there are going to be so many no-shows.
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Apr 30, 2014 22:31
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Applebees posted:Both Modern Masters events—that's 512 people—filled in under a minute. 
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Apr 30, 2014 22:32
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I thought I managed to join an MMA queue while tehre was still room but for some reason I never actually got a spot. Guess the numbers were lagging pretty hard
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Apr 30, 2014 22:37
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JerryLee posted:I can just picture the scene at WOTC HQ: MTGO has been running on the same Pentium 4 Inspiron tower since 2002. "Downtime" is when they have to reboot it.
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Apr 30, 2014 22:44
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These free events are probably gonna tank shadowmoor/eventide singles a bit, no? 12000 plus packs being opened at once seems kinda nuts.
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Apr 30, 2014 22:57
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Boy of Joy posted:These free events are probably gonna tank shadowmoor/eventide singles a bit, no? 12000 plus packs being opened at once seems kinda nuts. Imagine my surprise when Cursecatchers tank to 50 cents. Oh wait.
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Apr 30, 2014 23:03
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Does Burning Tree Emissary count as 4 devotion for Xenagod? I can't find a legal source on it to show a friend.
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OssiansFolly posted:Does Burning Tree Emissary count as 4 devotion for Xenagod? I can't find a legal source on it to show a friend. Guild mana only counts once. I can't cite the rule or why, but I do know that for a fact.
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May 1, 2014 00:38
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There are only two mana symbols so it can only count twice.
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OssiansFolly posted:Does Burning Tree Emissary count as 4 devotion for Xenagod? I can't find a legal source on it to show a friend. From BNG FAQ: quote:Your devotion to two colors is equal to the number of mana symbols that are the first color, the second color, or both colors among the mana costs of permanents you control. Specifically, a hybrid mana symbol counts only once toward your devotion to its two colors. For example, if the only nonland permanents you control are Xenagos, God of Revels and Rubblebelt Raiders (whose mana cost is 1 ManaRed or Green ManaRed or Green ManaRed or Green Mana), your devotion to red and green is five.
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OssiansFolly posted:Does Burning Tree Emissary count as 4 devotion for Xenagod? I can't find a legal source on it to show a friend. http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg%2Fdaily%2Ffeature%2Fjourneyintonyxmechanics#anchor7 Specifically states in the devotion section that hybrid mana counts for devotion to both colors but only as one devotion period. So one R/U would contribute one devotion to red, one devotion to blue, and one devotion to red/blue.
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OssiansFolly posted:Does Burning Tree Emissary count as 4 devotion for Xenagod? I can't find a legal source on it to show a friend. Not an official ruling, but it is the best I could find: http://blogs.magicjudges.org/rulestips/2014/02/devotion-to-two-colors-and-hybrid-symbols/ It can be two devotion of one or the other but not both simultaneously.
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traslin posted:Not an official ruling, but it is the best I could find: And because that statement is slightly misleading, it can count for both Nylea and Purphoros simultaneous. It provides 2 devotion to every card that cards about your devotion to red, green, or red and green.
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May 1, 2014 00:44
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cheetah7071 posted:And because that statement is slightly misleading, it can count for both Nylea and Purphoros simultaneous. It provides 2 devotion to every card that cards about your devotion to red, green, or red and green. Yea I got that. Thanks for the links.
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May 1, 2014 00:46
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Is your general's color identity static or dynamic throughout the corse of the game? Can you gift a Celestial Dawn to a non white player and shut him down?
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May 1, 2014 00:53
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It's static; the comp rules say "Color identity is established before the game begins" (903.4a). Celestial Dawn won't add White to it, and the non-White player will only be able to make colorless mana off of her new Plains.
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WTF. I totally could have played in those events but they're all full up. I hate you wotc.
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