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Roy Gato III
Jun 2, 2013

Dreamsicle posted:

Thanks for the responses. I have one more question

Obviously there are plenty of guides for FM but is there a team or at least league that will let me experiment with those guidelines with little risk? Think of Ireland in CK2.

Funnily enough, I find that Celtic in Scotland does the job. They're miles and away better than any other team in the Scottish league but can still give you some challenge in Europe, but you won't be severely punished if you cock up there.

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A Tartan Tory
Mar 26, 2010

You call that a shotgun?!

Roy Gato III posted:

Funnily enough, I find that Celtic in Scotland does the job. They're miles and away better than any other team in the Scottish league but can still give you some challenge in Europe, but you won't be severely punished if you cock up there.

On the other hand, not playing a bunch of hateful bastards like Celtic is also a good idea.

Do you really want to be Neil Lennon? :colbert:

LionYeti
Oct 12, 2008


A Tartan Tory posted:

On the other hand, not playing a bunch of hateful bastards like Celtic is also a good idea.

Do you really want to be Neil Lennon? :colbert:

I can't hate Celtic when they do stuff like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq2J146riTI

A Tartan Tory
Mar 26, 2010

You call that a shotgun?!

blakout posted:

I can't hate Celtic when they do stuff like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq2J146riTI

Not shown: teaching that boy to hate British people and Protestants through the use of glorifying terrorism and songs involving religious bigotry.

Scottish football is a dark, terrible place. :smith:

LionYeti
Oct 12, 2008


Yeah the Sectarianism is awful, but Rangers can be just as bad replacing British and Protestant with Irish and Catholic. I just love the idea of a 6 year old as the capo of the fan section for some reason. I'm an American Arsenal supporter so I'm fully okay with being wrong on all this as I have no context beyond what I read and see.

LionYeti fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Apr 30, 2014

LionYeti
Oct 12, 2008


quote is not edit

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
Interlude: Profits and losses.
May 11, 2020

:siren:BOARD VOTE:siren:

(Bedroom Eyes Engaged) I'm so pleased that we were able to come to an agreement on my contract. While I am intrigued by the escalator clauses that were on offer, I feel that a more straightforward contract serves the purpose of the club the best and am glad that it was the majority opinion of the board.

(Mellifluously) Now that we have reforged our commitment to the club, it is time to set the budget for the coming season. As always, our financial details:



As you can see, we made absolute bank. In the 2018-2019 season we saw total turnover of £17m. This year we made more than £87m. There are almost no categories of income that did not see double digit increases, and beyond our £45m share of the television rights contract we saw our gameday gate receipts almost double. We were at 97% capacity last season, we might have to think about building a larger stadium or adding seats to the Racecourse Ground in the not too distant future.



We also spent a lot more money as well, with almost £60m flowing from our coffers. The biggest jump comes in our transfer expenditures, we spent £16m on new players this past year. But just about every category saw big increases, two of the biggest coming in the opaque “Non-Soccer Staff” and “Other” line items. We're also going to get whacked with a big tax bill that has yet to be levied on our £27m profit.



Our tight control over the budget has lead to the club finishing with £27m in the bank, and that amount is likely to grow even greater as our season tickets and membership dues roll in over the next two months, though as mentioned the tax man yet cometh. So with no further ado, to the matters before the board.

QUESTION 1: Transfer and Wage Budget

(Didactically) We went into last season with £17m to split between transfers and wages, and increased that sum to £30m at the winter window. We ended the season with a wage budget of roughly £17.7m a year (£340k/wk) and spent a net £8m on transfers. Despite the winter window infusion we still had the lowest Premier League wages by over £12m pounds.

Our wages would actually have put us middle of the pack in the Championship, behind 9th place Huddersfield. I would like to see our combined wage and transfer budget bumped to £40m so that we can continue to improve the club. Based upon this past year's result we would still turn a profit of approximately £7 million at that level of expenditure.

A) (Miserly) Spin that gold out of straw, Rumplestiltskin! (Combined Transfer/Wage budget set at a combined £25 million)
B) (Conservatively) Strengthening the first team is important, but so is building a financial safety net that will prevent us from going the way of so many other recently promoted clubs. (Combined Transfer/Wage budget set at a combined £32 million)
C) (Supportively) We agree with your plans, and we think that you have shown prudence thus far in building the team. (Combined Transfer/Wage budget set at a combined £40 million)
D) (Graspingly) We want Bayern Munich visiting Wrexham for Champion's League action. That's not going to happen with penny pinching. (Combined Transfer/Wage budget set at a combined £50 million)

QUESTION 2: Upgrade Youth Facilities

(Schoolmarmish-ly) The Tom Cannon Memorial Youth Barn is a fine facility for the lower leagues, but they're distinctly average overall and look decidedly poor compared to the facilities of even the midtable strivers in the Premier League. Therefore, I propose that we honor our longtime captain Stuart Simpson by inaugurating the Stuart Simpson Commemorative Youth Shack and Paddock. This will cost £2m.

A) (Agreeably) We like the cut of your jib, and we can't wait to see what Kais Rouissi can do with even better facilities. (Youth Facilities are improved, £2m spent)
B) (Dubiously) Players like Scott Shirra didn't need no fancy shack, next thing you'll be telling us that we shouldn't have our youth players building their own housing out of pine boughs and sod out in the woods at the edge of town and instead be put up in dormitories. Stuart will understand, he still lives in that wigwam he built after we got promoted to League Two. (No improvements are made, a blow is struck for how things were in the olden days)

QUESTION 3: Upgrade Youth Academy Level

(Simile-ish-ly) Just as we need to keep up with the Evertons and Swanseas as to our youth facilities, it would do our youth program a world of good to reach the Level 2 categorization. This will cost £2m, and give us a youth academy on par with Stoke and Derby. That will still leave us behind every other Premiership club, but it will increase our chances of developing good, local talent.

A) (Musingly) Why should we spend money on our youth academy when you're just going to go run off and sign teenagers from around the world for the youth squad? (No advance in Youth Academy level)
B) (Rubber-Stampingly) Yes, yes, beyond getting the best talent from around the world we should also be sure to bring in the very best young Welshmen so that we have local boys made good to cheer on. (Youth Academy improved to Level 2, £2m spent)

QUESTION 4: Improve Youth Recruitment Network

(Thematically) Lastly, in order to get the best Welsh talent into our academy and prevent them being poached by other clubs, we need to improve our youth recruitment network. Presently we have merely average youth recruitment, leading to Cardiff and Swansea producing more talent out of their academy because we're too slow on the uptake. This will result in a permanent bump in our junior coaching budget.

A) (Wearily) Ok, fine, fine. Can we stop making decisions yet and get to the serious drinking? (Youth recruitment increased from average to above average)
B) (Blearily) No, stop. I can't make this many decisions without a drop of aqua vitae. No more, requests, let us imbibe! (Youth recruitment remains at average)

Voting will close on Friday, May 2, at Noon EST.

habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 15:10 on May 1, 2014

Sky Shadowing
Feb 13, 2012

At least we're not the Thalmor (yet)
DABA! Gotta spend money to make money!

Laughing Zealot
Oct 10, 2012


BABA

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
I pledged to 'Throw money at the team like it's going out of fashion', and I am a man of my word. So,

1D, 2A, 3B, 4A.

There, money thrown. Now get us into Europe.

Brony Hunter
Dec 27, 2012

Motherfucking Mannis

They'll bend the knee or I'll destroy them
CABA

CVE
Jan 27, 2012
B A B A.

Let's not blow all our load at once but rather build towards the future one step at a time.

Trundel
Mar 13, 2005

:10bux: + :awesomelon: = :roboluv:
- a sound investment!
CABA!

We must continue to promote youth above all other things, our young players should have facilities and training that would make beggars out of Crystal Palace's main squad! The Stuart Simpson Commemorative Youth Shack and Paddock should be built right away!

Also for players like Stuart who are nearing the end of their time with good 'ol Wrexham are there any opportunities to hire them on as coaches? I can't remember if we ever got a report on Simpson's coaching potential but that would be a cool way to keep on a good player who kept fighting waaaay above his weight class as we advanced through the leagues.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
Sorry about the delay. Life is a bit chaotic for me right now, so updates will be haphazard for the next month. I hate moving.

Fun fact: The contract that the club offered me when I asked for a new one was an extension at 1,300/wk. The most I could request was 3,800. If I was playing by myself and not for an LP (and thus getting paid what I deserve thanks to you kindly voters) I probably would have left for a megabastard at least temporarily. I'm guessing it's because I've been monkeying with the contracts, and not demanding a new deal each time I wildly exceed their expectations.

Also, if the option to pay me what's owed wasn't selected I would have rejected the contract offers and spent the next season taking job interviews every couple weeks. When a megabastard came to hire me I would have saved, taken the job, and then put that up as an update. Chelsea's manager is in the hotseat, and my rep is about to hit "continental" status after this past season's success. I could become The Extra Special One.

Lastly, on Sky Shadowing's wish- I'm happy to do it because it is a prize. But looking at the finances for the megabastards I don't think it'd really hurt them much. Man U has only 32m in the bank, Man City has 23m, and Chelsea are at NEGATIVE 35m. And for the latter two, they both have sugar daddies who will pump more money into the club. Ther worst it would do is gently caress with their Financial Fair Play obligations.

I don't really mind messing with a megabastard club. The big downside is that if it works then we're reducing the competition for ourselves. But for all FM does right it's horrible at the changing of dynasties. Megabasterds seldom having a down year is mostly true to real life, but big clubs do go through periods in the wilderness all the time. In 2009 Liverpool finished second and it's taken a half decade in the wilderness for them to get back to that level. It shouldn't happen often, because it doesn't in real life, but it should happen more often than never.* Instead what the game tends to give you are big spending big reputation clubs that fell on hard times in real life and can never break back into the top echelon in the game.

But as I said, I don't think it's going to hurt any club too badly if we mess with their balance sheet. They take in way too much money and don't currently have a wild amount on hand to make it have a big effect. I'm still happy to do it.

*That's just in my experience, I'd love to hear about how Abromavich ran Chelsea into the ground in someone's game.

habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 00:06 on May 1, 2014

Bozart
Oct 28, 2006

Give me the finger.
DBAB, gently caress the kids, lets win this thing now!

edit: also, I think that for every other club you mess with, you have to reduce one of your player's intelligence related stats to the lowest level.

Bozart fucked around with this message at 00:03 on May 1, 2014

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry
C,A,B,A seems like the best options for the club.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

Trundel posted:

Also for players like Stuart who are nearing the end of their time with good 'ol Wrexham are there any opportunities to hire them on as coaches? I can't remember if we ever got a report on Simpson's coaching potential but that would be a cool way to keep on a good player who kept fighting waaaay above his weight class as we advanced through the leagues.

There are, but Simpson is still in his prime. He's got 4-5 more years playing at the Championship/League One level before he hangs up his boots. As a Prem side I've now got vastly more coaching positions than I can make use of, I like the idea of giving our favorites sinecures with the club. It's not even unrealistic, I know in baseball old fan favorites often have a deal with their old club as a fan ambassador or spring training instructor.

AJ_Impy
Jun 17, 2007

SWORD OF SMATTAS. CAN YOU NOT HEAR A WORLD CRY OUT FOR JUSTICE? WHEN WILL YOU DELIVER IT?
Yam Slacker
Can we give Arsenal an order of magnitude or three greater debt than their turnover plus total player valuations combined to see if it sticks?

generally I prefer
Apr 17, 2006

BABA

I'm basically considering the reduced player/transfer budget as being due to the investments in the youth setup/scouting that we're going to make.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
B, A, B, A

Why is everybody voting against building the Academy? :psyduck:

Edit: Just realized that in this case A wasn't the approving vote :downs:

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

AJ_Impy posted:

Can we give Arsenal an order of magnitude or three greater debt than their turnover plus total player valuations combined to see if it sticks?

Sure, I'll run some tests. Stick myself on vacation and let the game run to see what it takes to break a big club.

steinrokkan posted:


Edit: Just realized that in this case A wasn't the approving vote :downs:

I'm tricksy.

Guitar_Hero posted:

I'm basically considering the reduced player/transfer budget as being due to the investments in the youth setup/scouting that we're going to make.

That makes you more responsible than most people actually running football clubs.

habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 00:17 on May 1, 2014

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO
CABA

Because I love caba nuts and youth development.

LionYeti
Oct 12, 2008


Caba we need to spend money but let's not be qpr.

TheFlyingLlama
Jan 2, 2013

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and be a llama?



CAAAB

You get your transfer money and your shack, but the academy and recruitment network are pretty irrelevant at this point, the cost isn't worth the expense at the moment. Wrexham's like 3 youth upgrades away from actually getting kids who can realistically someday play at a premier league level, just invest it instead in foreigners.

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

AABA

Youth should remain a priority. We'd have more to spend on wages if the manager hadn't been so greedy!

benzine
Oct 21, 2010
CABA is our future!

ThePenIsMightier
Dec 21, 2009
C, A, B, A

Easily the most important decision is Wage Budget and Transfer number. Based on the information you've provided, the other three questions combined will cost us between £5 and £7 Million. Assuming that yes is a given to all of those based on the money being pulled in now, that leaves us a nest egg of £20 Million to invest on a growing profit club.

I feel that going from £30 to £45 million would leave us a nice cushion for pull back due to an unpredictable collapse, yet still allows for some profit. I therefore recommend this as an option to the Board of Directors and Coach Brown.

Given the current options, I choose to vote for £40 Million.

Aeromancia
Jul 23, 2013
CABA

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

AJ_Impy posted:

I pledged to 'Throw money at the team like it's going out of fashion', and I am a man of my word. So,

1D, 2A, 3B, 4A.

There, money thrown. Now get us into Europe.

This.

Let's hear it for Team Rainmaker!

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008
CAAA

While we've got a good amount of money in my offshore accounts the bank, I'd like us to know that we can hang at the top before we really go hog wild with spending. Let's do half the youth building thingy now, and if we're still a Premire League team after next season we'll work on upgrading the level.

One season does not a dynasty make. Let's bank this sweet, gorgeous TV money for a couple of years before we build up Wales to modern civilization.

While we're thinking about it, what's the cost on adding extra seats vs. building Cowboys Stadium in Wales? I don't think we should do it quite yet, but knowing what we're looking at can help with our short-term decision making.

fucking love Fiona Apple
Jun 19, 2013

samus comfy so what

DABA

KKKLIP ART
Sep 3, 2004

B, A, B, A

Sir Potato
May 26, 2012

PO-TAY-TOES
Boil 'em, mash 'em, cook 'em in a stew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2KRpRMSu4g

(BABA)

Sneaky Fast
Apr 24, 2013

[b]CABA[/]

Does Africa produce good players in this game?

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy
BABA

ForeverBWFC
Oct 19, 2011

Oh, the lads! You should've seen 'em running!
Ask 'em why and they reply the Bolton Boys are coming! All the lads and lasses, smiles upon their faces,

WALKING DOWN THE MANNY ROAD, TO SEE THE BURNDEN ACES!

I'm convinced! B A B A

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

Sneaky Fast posted:

Does Africa produce good players in this game?

Yep! I just don't have a scouting presence there yet as it's very much third behind Europe and South America.

Cthulhu Dreams
Dec 11, 2010

If I pretend to be Cthulhu no one will know I'm a baseball robot.
CABA

As per the comments previously, I'd prefer 45 million quid over 40 million quid, but given the options presented am going with 40 million.

Buzzsaw Roomba
Feb 14, 2012

Christ, what an asshole.
DABA

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habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

C. Everett Koop posted:

While we're thinking about it, what's the cost on adding extra seats vs. building Cowboys Stadium in Wales? I don't think we should do it quite yet, but knowing what we're looking at can help with our short-term decision making.

Well, this led me down into an interesting rabbit hole. We don't own the Racecourse Grounds, so we'd need to buy it if we wanted to expand the grounds. It can expand up to 28,000 seats, which would probably be about the right size for our club. It wouldn't improve our average corporate facilities, though, which are vital for getting the big sponsorship deals.



No dice, how about building our own stadium?



No? We were at 97% capacity last year! I'm going to go talk to the press about this.



What?! I'm untouchable, you fools! I'm the God-King in Wales!



You shall reap the whirlwind.



That's something like 2/3rds of the coaching staff. Including their interim manager. I'm still sacked, though. They hire the Fulham manager, his claim to fame is getting relegated three times, twice from League One. Sadly, though, it doesn't look like the fans have enough sway this far from an election to make the imbecile cabal running Wrexham resign in shame for their bald face treachery against their liege.



Meanwhile I gave Arsenal a -500m balance. I couldn't give them a balance worth less than their team, it caps out at a dollar less than a billion and their team worth is 1.13b. They've already been docked points under Financial Fair Play, and I expect things will get worse.



The team starts to fall apart. Without my good relationships most of their best players will leave.



Wrexham qualifies for the Europa League thanks to my monkey business with Arsenal finances barring them from European competition. And that upjumped thrice relegated fuckwit is being praised for it! This truly is the darkest timeline. This also means that I can't grant your request to screw over Arsenal, Sky Shadowing. Getting them barred from Europe and watching a Europa League spot fall to us would be incredibly cheesy.

habeasdorkus fucked around with this message at 02:56 on May 1, 2014

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