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A Winner is Jew posted:The second one. That books way more useful as a long term argument assist tool since he's a virtually unimpeachable expert on the subject (god knows they'll try), but if you've been smart enough to already realize that the system as it is currently fucks anyone that hasn't already gotten theirs it won't really teach you anything new. Economics makes me feel dumb as hell. I struggled with it (and stats) in school in ways that I haven't in any other class and one time I tried to read Das Kapital on my own and I just couldn't grasp it 
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Fried Chicken posted:No? Economically the 50s and the 90s were both great and you saw huge upswings in this crap then There was a major recession in the early 90s.
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Hey who was it that called the Clippers going nonprofit? Because some fans are trying to do just that, a la the Green Bay Packers http://m.fastcoexist.com/3029926/la-clippers-fans-are-raising-funds-to-buy-the-team-and-make-it-a-nonprofit Got to roll my eyes at the comparison of Sterling to Mubarak though zoux posted:
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May 1, 2014 21:27
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LorneReams posted:This is only being allowed to happen because they are mostly white christian rednecks, right? I mean any other shade of color or religion gets Wacoed, correct? White Christian rednecks were the people who got Wacoed.
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May 1, 2014 21:35
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zoux posted:Economics makes me feel dumb as hell. I struggled with it (and stats) in school in ways that I haven't in any other class and one time I tried to read Das Kapital on my own and I just couldn't grasp it For me it's English (I'm literally Ralph Wiggum), but I'm basically autistic when it comes to math, or learning and understanding anything I'm interested in as long as it's not in a scholastic setting. I mean my father in-law is a MBA/JD, my brother in-law is a PhD, and my wife is doing her MBA and yet with only "some college" they usually consult me with regards to math or engineering.
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Fried Chicken posted:The problem is that even when times are great you have this kind of stuff as well. Fried Chicken posted:No? Economically the 50s and the 90s were both great and you saw huge upswings in this crap then The huge upswing in this crap during the 1990s happened in the first half of the decade, and the militia movement deflated rapidly from 1996 onward. Meanwhile GDP growth was strong in 1994, slackened slightly in 1995, and resumed a striking upward trajectory in 1996 that continued through to the burst of the tech bubble in 2001. It's tempting to think of this as an exact correlation but there are multiple causes. For example as some others pointed out, the GOP took control of both houses of Congress in 1996, which probably caused a lot of less hardcore members to vacillate. As to the 1950s, the militia movement of the 1990s and present is descended from rather than identical to the KKK revival, John Birch Society, and the other mid-century paranoids. It's also the case that, whereas a lot of the groups began in the late 1950s, their period of explosive growth was during the mid-late 1960s.
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Two Finger posted:I will also accept good American craft beers, I have a real taste for those. Sorry for the food derail, but if you can get hold of some New Glarus, you won't regret it. http://www.newglarusbrewing.com/ Cheers
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:White Christian rednecks were the people who got Wacoed. Kinda? They weren't exactly mainline Christians and had lots of Messianic prophecies that the vast majority of Christians would find straight up blasphemous, even compared to stuff like Mormonism.
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To celebrate May Day House Republicans have announced a hearing scheduled for next Thursday on the menace of BIG LABOR IN THE NCAA http://edworkforce.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=378474 Some rear end in a top hat posted:House Education and the Workforce Committee Chairman John Kline (R-MN) today announced the committee will examine a recent decision by the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) that classifies certain student athletes as “employees” for the purposes of collective bargaining. The hearing, entitled "Big Labor on College Campuses: Examining the Consequences of Unionizing Student Athletes," will take place on Thursday, May 8 at 10:00 a.m. in room 2175 Rayburn House Office Building. The hearing will be webcast if you want to be extremely angry next week.
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Jagchosis posted:To celebrate May Day House Republicans have announced a hearing scheduled for next Thursday on the menace of BIG LABOR IN THE NCAA 10:00am: declare that paying students is the end of higher education 11:00am: Repeal Obamacare 11:05am: Cocaine / hookers / gay hookers break 2:00pm: End of break 2:01pm: Repeal Obamacare 2:05pm: Talk about rape 2:06pm: Prepare speech doubling down on rape comments 2:07pm: blame the blacks and women for rape comments 2:09pm: pretend that a democrat was talking about rape instead 3:00pm: Margarita hour! Talk about the browns taking jobs Whew, tight schedule
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Here's your first look at the monument the Satanic Church is going to request be installed at the Oklahoma State Capitol under their new religious freedom law:
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zoux posted:Here's your first look at the monument the Satanic Church is going to request be installed at the Oklahoma State Capitol under their new religious freedom law: Holy poo poo, that's fantastic. I love these people for what they're doing.
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zoux posted:Here's your first look at the monument the Satanic Church is going to request be installed at the Oklahoma State Capitol under their new religious freedom law: Hail Satan. I like how one of their proposed activities is like "contemplatively sit on Satan's comforting lap."
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zoux posted:Here's your first look at the monument the Satanic Church is going to request be installed at the Oklahoma State Capitol under their new religious freedom law: Do these people need money or anything?
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If they don't use glow-paint on the eyes and pentagram, I'll buy a round-trip ticket and do it myself.
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fits my needs posted:I guess this is trending because people are comparing it to Sterling, but he is making a rational point? I guess it's just more "NO. YOU are the REAL RACIST(s)" stuff since Clarence Thomas was chosen on merit, well according to the comments on that article anyway. I know this is from a couple pages back but I have to strongly disagree with this rationale. You can't justify bullshit by claiming it's based off of some rational points. He lost all credibility by calling Thomas a uncle tom. You can't defend him for that. He doesn't even apologize for calling him that. You're not going to defend a politician for calling a mexican who crossed the border illegally a wetback because the the slur was based on illegal entry into the US by crossing the Rio Grande, are you?
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zoux posted:Here's your first look at the monument the Satanic Church is going to request be installed at the Oklahoma State Capitol under their new religious freedom law:
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Talmonis posted:Holy poo poo, that's fantastic. I love these people for what they're doing. They're truly doing the lords work here. The lord of hell's work. 
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zoux posted:Here's your first look at the monument the Satanic Church is going to request be installed at the Oklahoma State Capitol under their new religious freedom law: Thinking about it, it makes sense, going balls out on the whole "Satanism" thing would be counterproductive to the cause/point they're making, but it really is striking to me that when I first looked at that stature I immediately thought "Wow, that looks like a religious statue." fade5 fucked around with this message at 22:42 on May 1, 2014 |
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Here's the Vice article on it.quote:The Baphomet, which will stand seven feet tall and be a testament to the glory of the Angel of the Bottomless Pit, would be placed directly beside the sculpture glorifying the laws given to Moses by the Christian God. The idea of a Satanic monument sitting on government property in Oklahoma—which is like the Bible Belt's Bible Belt—seems a bit far-fetched, but Greaves says that "there has been quite a bit of discussion among legal scholars who recognize how difficult it would actually be for Oklahoma to turn us down… Constitutional law is quite clear on this issue: The state can’t discriminate against viewpoints. If they’ve opened the door for one, they’ve opened it for all.”
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zoux posted:Here's your first look at the monument the Satanic Church is going to request be installed at the Oklahoma State Capitol under their new religious freedom law: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqaOSIYsm58 hobbesmaster posted:Do these people need money or anything?
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:I know this is from a couple pages back but I have to strongly disagree with this rationale. You can't justify bullshit by claiming it's based off of some rational points. He lost all credibility by calling Thomas a uncle tom. You can't defend him for that. He doesn't even apologize for calling him that. Thomas is an uncle Tom. That congressman has read the book and loving knows what one is. He's not some loony idiot throwing around words he doesn't understand.
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Now I wanna put up an atheist "statue" that's just a sign in front of an empty space saying "This statue represents the existence of God" or some such.
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Munkeymon posted:Wanna put up an atheist "statue" that's just a sign saying "This statue represents the existence of God" or some such. Pretty sure the Satanists have done it about as well as it can be done.
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hobbesmaster posted:Do these people need money or anything? IIRC there was a kickstarter for the statue and it cleared its goal in a day or so.
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hobbesmaster posted:Do these people need money or anything? 
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Munkeymon posted:Wanna put up an atheist "statue" that's just a sign saying "This statue represents the existence of God" or some such. Atheists should erect a statue of John Scopes. That would probably piss off way more people than even the church of satan statue would.
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The great thing about it is that it's going to be a "proper" looking statue like fade5 said. I mean you have an equally valid argument to put up some cardboard sign reading "God is dead", but the State reps are going to look a lot more hypocritical when they finagle a way to block an actual bronze statue depicting a religious figure from the Capitol.
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Antti posted:The great thing about it is that it's going to be a "proper" looking statue like fade5 said. I mean you have an equally valid argument to put up some cardboard sign reading "God is dead", but the State reps are going to look a lot more hypocritical when they finagle a way to block an actual bronze statue depicting a religious figure from the Capitol. They're just going to overturn the law while lamenting the state society that this could happen blah blah blah.
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zoux posted:Pretty sure the Satanists have done it about as well as it can be done. Um. I don't see any plans to install Van de Graaff generators in the fingertips?
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A Winner is Jew posted:Atheists should erect a statue of John Scopes. That would probably piss off way more people than even the church of satan statue would. Nah. Go whole hog and put Chuck himself up there.
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zoux posted:Here's your first look at the monument the Satanic Church is going to request be installed at the Oklahoma State Capitol under their new religious freedom law: Let's say this goes to court. Does the ACLU support them and argue that if one religion is being shown all must be allowed, or oppose them and argue that no religious displays should be placed at the capitol? A Winner is Jew posted:Atheists should erect a statue of John Scopes. That would probably piss off way more people than even the church of satan statue would. The only right answer: 
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The ACLU has a pending case to remove the Commandments, if the case succeeds Baphomet will be removed as well. It's in the Vice article. There's a wrinkle in that they might get blocked from erecting it because of the pending case but that would be a double standard since the Ten Commandments remain.zoux posted:They're just going to overturn the law while lamenting the state society that this could happen blah blah blah. And the Ten Commandments will be gone. Mission accomplished.
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Mo_Steel posted:Let's say this goes to court. Does the ACLU support them and argue that if one religion is being shown all must be allowed, or oppose them and argue that no religious displays should be placed at the capitol? The ACLU is currently fighting the issue in court in favor of its complete dismissal.
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zoux posted:Pretty sure the Satanists have done it about as well as it can be done. It's not possible to troll Oklahoma too hard, though.
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Oklahoma is the only piece of land in the US so lovely the US government was willing to give most of it to the Indians. You know the only reason that Texas doesn't fall into the Gulf of Mexico?
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zoux posted:Here's your first look at the monument the Satanic Church is going to request be installed at the Oklahoma State Capitol under their new religious freedom law: Rather tasteful for a troll, actually. Love it.
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zoux posted:The ACLU is currently fighting the issue in court in favor of its complete dismissal. So Oklahoma is kind of caught between a rock and another rock, only the second rock is shaped like Satan
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Munkeymon posted:It's not possible to troll Oklahoma too hard, though. EDIT: Holy poo poo the Satanic Temple is selling these shirts which have to (have to) be worn to any dedication ceremony in Oklahoma 
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