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Is it really Golden Week already? Either time flies as I'm getting older or they celebrate this week 3 times a year.
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May 1, 2014 01:58
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Well, Golden Week is next week. The scans come out a week early and all that. Also, it's the former. Time flies as you get older. It sucks.
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May 1, 2014 09:44
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Batmasterson posted:Is it really Golden Week already? Either time flies as I'm getting older or they celebrate this week 3 times a year. It's probably because you're thinking of the Christmas break as well.
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May 1, 2014 09:56
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That and I think Bleach and Naruto took some extra breaks this year to "prepare" for wrapping up the series.
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May 1, 2014 11:16
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I bought the Aizen surviving Soi Fon thing because the way I was envisioning it was that he was on a different "plane" of power not necessarily just stronger at what he was doing. Sort of the whole "I can't sense his power" thing, and Ichigo went one level above that when he came back. Sort of means they both were like incredibly stronger than anyone in the story now but w/e
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May 1, 2014 13:03
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tbp posted:I bought the Aizen surviving Soi Fon thing because the way I was envisioning it was that he was on a different "plane" of power not necessarily just stronger at what he was doing. Sort of the whole "I can't sense his power" thing, and Ichigo went one level above that when he came back. Makes about as much sense as... well, Bleach.
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May 1, 2014 13:56
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It was just an extension of the "I'm so strong nothing you do works". In their final forms, Aizen and Ichigo were ~so powerful~ that their spirit pressure was far beyond the comprehension of an ordinary being. Ichigo in particular bullshits his way into being so strong that not even Aizen could grasp him, which is what led to that "oh I see you converted all your power into physical strength  " thing that confused so many people.
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May 1, 2014 16:15
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Which, I don't care if he is half Quincy or whatever the drat argument is, it's loving dumb that a guy who's been a shinigami for like a month can take a break in the hyperbolic time chamber for a while and become stronger than a Captain who's been here for thousands of years and also has a magic wish ball that makes him immortal and undefeatable.
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May 1, 2014 18:10
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Advice posted:Which, I don't care if he is half Quincy or whatever the drat argument is, it's loving dumb that a guy who's been a shinigami for like a month can take a break in the hyperbolic time chamber for a while and become stronger than a Captain who's been here for thousands of years and also has a magic wish ball that makes him immortal and undefeatable. No, no he's a quarter nobility level Quincy, a quarter nobility level Shinigami, a quarter super science experiment Hollow, and a quarter Human which I'm sure is also somehow super awesome Humanity Go as well. Ichigo is the Kwisatz Haderach of Bleach.
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May 1, 2014 18:15
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Gyges posted:No, no he's a quarter nobility level Quincy, a quarter nobility level Shinigami, a quarter super science experiment Hollow, and a quarter Human which I'm sure is also somehow super awesome Humanity Go as well. Ichigo is the Kwisatz Haderach of Bleach. Don't forget the quarter fullbringer. I always do. And yes, I realize that's 5 quarters. Sounds about right for Ichigo.
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May 1, 2014 18:21
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I thought it was reasonable given that it was supposed to be a last ditch effort to defeat Aizen which would end up sealing Ichigo's power. Of course Kubo wrote in a way for Ichigo to enter the fray again, but at the time it was fine. Also, not just anyone could do that because not just anyone could enter that dimension. Also also, Ichigo and Isshin just lucked out that the Dahaka or whatever was MIA.
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May 1, 2014 18:21
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Gyges posted:No, no he's a quarter nobility level Quincy, a quarter nobility level Shinigami, a quarter super science experiment Hollow, and a quarter Human which I'm sure is also somehow super awesome Humanity Go as well. Ichigo is the Kwisatz Haderach of Bleach. Ahhh, then that must make Urahara the Bene Gesserit of Bleach. We know him and his weirding ways.
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May 1, 2014 18:21
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Fullbringers and Quincies aren't species, they're just a part of Ichigo's humanity. The whole thing goes something like: Dad was a super Soul Reaper, Mom was a super Quincy with traces of a super Hollow. Genetically he's half ghost, half human, and qualifies for being a Fullbringer. Turned into a Soul Reaper by Rukia, but his spiritual link to Ywach throttles his capabilities. Ends up almost turning into a Hollow because Urahara is a dick. This awakens his Hollow side, and qualifies him for being a Vizard. With the help of his dad, he combines his Quincy, Soul Reaper, and Hollow powers together and becomes bullshit strong. Then he just loses it because reasons. His Fullbringer potential is realized and then forgotten. Ywach comes around and forcefully awakens his Quincy potential. After some more soul searching, Ichigo's Quincy side steps aside and lets his Soul Reaper/Hollow powers go. Ichigo starts running down Snake Road. Like most things in Bleach, it's not actually that complicated. It's just stupid.
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May 1, 2014 18:36
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It just bothers me that there was apparently some super secret technique to ascend past a level Aizen could even dream of (Final Getsuga) that is common enough to have a name but that nobody else could do. You'd figure some super intelligent scientist like Mayuri or Urahara would know of some such way, or somebody who's been a captain for ten million years like Kyoraku or Ukitake, or even, I dunno, a combination of the two like Aizen. And then apparently Isshin knows it exists and knows it by name, but presumably even he couldn't do it, since you'd think a guy who never uses his shinigami powers would rather lose his than have his son whom he knows loves being a shinigami lose those.
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May 1, 2014 18:41
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The Final Getsuga wasn't what made Ichigo so powerful. It was just the finishing move he decided to use for no real reason. I am constantly amazed at how people can be so confused about what happened at the end of Deicide. From people actually thinking Aizen was right when he claimed Ichigo just put all his power into physical strength (despite the fact Ichigo tells him he's wrong) to assuming the Final Getsuga was what made Ichigo so strong (despite the fact that Ichigo doesn't even use it until the very end, and it doesn't work). I mean it was stupid, and a terrible end to such a long arc, but it was pretty clear cut.
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May 1, 2014 18:54
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Minus Green posted:I wonder which plot thread we'll jump to now. Ichigo? The Fullbringers? A new sternritter entirely? Orihime and Chad and everyone else who's been farting around in Hueco Mundo for over a year now? I've been thinking about this for some time, and while I don't think it will necessarily happen next (we're probably gonna get a fight with Checkerteeth or somebody like him next), I'm assuming that Mayuri and Nemu both still have fights waiting in the queue. However I don't think they're gonna fight Sternritter D... they're more than likely gonna fight the Lady Sternritters P and T, whose names will either be "The Pain" and "The Toxin", or "The Poison" and "The Torture", respectively. Both fights will basically turn into giant dick-waving contests over who is the best poisoner/most sadistic torturer. Also Urahara will be there doing... something, I dunno. Maybe revealing his bankai. I. M. Gei fucked around with this message at 21:15 on May 1, 2014 |
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May 1, 2014 21:10
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That ending was the worst Wha? No pomp and circumstance? Just gonna one shot him like that? Dammit Kubo
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May 1, 2014 21:38
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BlitzBlast posted:It was just an extension of the "I'm so strong nothing you do works". In their final forms, Aizen and Ichigo were ~so powerful~ that their spirit pressure was far beyond the comprehension of an ordinary being. Ichigo in particular bullshits his way into being so strong that not even Aizen could grasp him, which is what led to that "oh I see you converted all your power into physical strength It's like in Soul Eater when the main characters are learning to sense souls. They are all impressed by the power that Stein's soul has and such, but when they look at Shinigami he doesn't seem to have any power at all. But that's because his soul is so huge it encompasses the whole city. It's like trying to grasp the size of the earth when standing on it.
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May 1, 2014 21:43
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Advice posted:It just bothers me that there was apparently some super secret technique to ascend past a level Aizen could even dream of (Final Getsuga) that is common enough to have a name but that nobody else could do. I always interpreted this as meaning the Final Getsuga Tenshou was supposed to be fatal to the user. Presumably if Isshin (Or someone else) used the Final Getsuga Tenshou he would die (I don't think escaping to a Gigai would cut it.) Ichigo alone had his human heritage to fall back on. And considering even Ichigo couldn't kill Aizen with it, that means it probably wasn't worth it as a sacrificial move for Isshin. So it's not as big of a sacrifice for Ichigo, and he was the only one with enough What I want to know is why Yoruichi and Urahara couldn't release their Shikai and Bankai respectively during that fight. I get that Isshin had some secret to hide which is why he couldn't release his Zanpakuto, but what about them? Did they assume it wouldn't make a difference? Would it escalate the fight and make Aizen release his Bankai which would do Something?
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May 1, 2014 22:34
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If you just go and assume Aizen's in a state of perpetual Bankai things make a lot more sense.
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May 1, 2014 23:05
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his bankai is opening his face and peeling off his skin. he really hates it.
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May 2, 2014 02:54
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Aizen may not even have a bankai. It's not like he needed one to be more powerful than all the other captains (excluding Yamamoto), and he could use his shikai to make it look like he had one in order to become a captain.
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May 2, 2014 03:17
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Zogundar posted:I always interpreted this as meaning the Final Getsuga Tenshou was supposed to be fatal to the user. Presumably if Isshin (Or someone else) used the Final Getsuga Tenshou he would die (I don't think escaping to a Gigai would cut it.) Ichigo alone had his human heritage to fall back on. Nah nah nah, final getsuga was like that quincy thing ishda did when he fought that psycho doctor captain. Hell, they even stabbed Ichigi near his heart when they gave him back his powers. Remember that Ishida got shot by his dad to bring his back? Or if it isn't the quincy thing, maybe it's just an end all one shot that burns you out completely, that only people who are 100% in tune with their zanpaktou can do.
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May 2, 2014 04:23
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Fhate posted:Aizen may not even have a bankai. It's not like he needed one to be more powerful than all the other captains (excluding Yamamoto), and he could use his shikai to make it look like he had one in order to become a captain. Pretty much this To be honest, what else could top that broken of a shikai? Super plot hypnosis?
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May 2, 2014 04:24
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Parrotine posted:Pretty much this That world-engulfing mass illusion thing from Naruto, maybe?
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May 2, 2014 04:30
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Parrotine posted:
Control over proprioception and sense of time. Unable to figure out where your hands are relative to the rest of your body, you try to stay perfectly still, but you've already accidentally cut your legs off. But that's okay, because it's not like you could tell where they were or reliably use them if they were still attached. And much like what happened with Szayel, he could casually walk up to you and stab you without you being able to do anything. tl;dr yes
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May 2, 2014 04:38
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Parrotine posted:Pretty much this Aizen used his bankai right after the Soul Society arc to make the manga lovely; everything after has just been an illusion.
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May 2, 2014 04:59
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Aizen's bankai was probably just the ability to use his illusions without someone having to see the sword first. He was just too arrogant after Buttfly stage to bother ever using it.
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May 2, 2014 06:58
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I really wish Ichigo would fight some guy and have an internal monologue about trying to figure out which power set he should use.
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May 2, 2014 07:09
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Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:That world-engulfing mass illusion thing from Naruto, maybe?
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May 2, 2014 09:07
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Bisse posted:The MOON EYE'S PLAN? Tell me more about this MOON EYE'S PLAN
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May 2, 2014 09:10
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AnonSpore posted:Tell me more about this MOON EYE'S PLAN So I put some sharingan in your
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May 2, 2014 10:02
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I bet Aizen's Bankai equates to a big undo button "Oh, you hit me with your special sword power? Well how bout I just undo it from ever happening at all" 
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May 2, 2014 16:37
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Parrotine posted:I bet Aizen's Bankai equates to a big undo button Naruto spoiler: .....Yet another Naruto power.
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May 2, 2014 17:01
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BLEACH is pretty bad right now but it doesn't compare to how lovely and horrible Naruto has become. That is the textbook definition of something that needs to be put out of its own misery.
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May 2, 2014 18:48
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Kirios posted:BLEACH is pretty bad right now but it doesn't compare to how lovely and horrible Naruto has become. That is the textbook definition of something that needs to be put out of its own misery. It would just turn out to be an illusion that it was put down.
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May 2, 2014 20:09
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Parrotine posted:I bet Aizen's Bankai equates to a big undo button I was sure there was a reset coming at the end of that arc since I watched the anime first, with its usually accurate spoilery OPs. And the 13th OP shows among other things, the Hogyoku turning to dust and rapid aging of the room it's in, and a rewind of all the events in Bleach going back to the very beginning of the series. I guess they really just wanted some kind of memorable bookend (Though if it ever restarts something like that would be more appropriate for the final OP.) Also I assumed Aizen was the final boss of this story and I didn't see him being defeated so "soon," and since he couldn't succeed either it made sense to me that something else would happen. It took me a while to come to terms with what actually happened. It felt like if JK Rowling went back on her word and the 7th Harry Potter book ended with Voldemort going to jail and Harry losing his wizard powers and then- you get the idea. (I would have read "Harry Potter & The Arrow Ghosts.)  Kirios posted:BLEACH is pretty bad right now but it doesn't compare to how lovely and horrible Naruto has become. That is the textbook definition of something that needs to be put out of its own misery. That sounds pretty bad. I haven't read past the first chapter of Naruto, but I was surprised that I didn't completely hate it and that I actually kind of liked the premise. Now I'm torn between reading the rest (GOTTA CATCH UP, SPOILERS WILL GET ME.)
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May 2, 2014 20:15
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Bisse posted:The MOON EYE'S PLAN? Yeah that thing. I mean Aizen's sword already has the word "moon" in it's name.
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May 2, 2014 20:55
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Kirios posted:BLEACH is pretty bad right now but it doesn't compare to how lovely and horrible Naruto has become. That is the textbook definition of something that needs to be put out of its own misery. I'm a pretty big Naruto fan and all, and I like a lot of stuff in it that other people don't but god dammit right now it's just so loving stupid.
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May 2, 2014 21:49
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Aizen's bankai is a laser light show at a pink floyd concert trust me, my dad's uncle's brother's flatmate back in college smoked some weed with kubo once.
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