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Any remake of P1 would have to ditch both the battle system and the dungeon designs. Both are unacceptable by modern standards as-is. That they had a chance to do so with the PSP version and still dropped the ball is disheartening to say the least. Even Soul Hackers was more playable than that mess.
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Manatee Cannon posted:Real talk, Persona 1/2 did not age well. Now, a show about Raidou I might actually watch. I'd watch it. Hell, I'd watch anything Megaten-related. I just really like Persona 1 and 2 for their urban occult feel that has never really been replicated in the modern games.
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May 2, 2014 18:39
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Yeah, 3 and 4 can be creepy, but neither capture that dreadful, MegaTen-esque tone of 1 and 2. A lot of it has to do with Kaneko's art.
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May 2, 2014 18:41
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Eh, I'd thought P3/4, teenaged hijinks aside was really good about the occult feels, mainly thanks to the fact time passes and your characters's everyday's life is not shoved aside.
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May 2, 2014 18:41
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I can't wait till the P4 anime itself hits Higurashi levels of being milked and we get a ton of OVAs full of awful fanservice and no content at all for years to come.
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May 2, 2014 18:46
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I went through all of these 400+ posts ready for my new Persona 3 version, the wallet was out, I was ready for my SIXTH time, and Atlus you give me THIS poo poo which is a mulligan on an anime that I already own and I kinda halfheartedly defend cos I liked it well enough but NOPE, Atlus needed some lunch money so just give that fan teat ONE MORE SQUEEZE but I'm gonna do it cos I gotta see and you KNOW THIS SO WELL AND YOU ARE loving ME ATLUS, YOU ARE LITERALLY loving ME RIGHT NOW. I quite like Naoto as a character and it highly disappoints me that her spin-off material is so below-average
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Danbri posted:I went through all of these 400+ posts ready for my new Persona 3 version, the wallet was out, I was ready for my SIXTH time, and Atlus you give me THIS poo poo which is a mulligan on an anime that I already own and I kinda halfheartedly defend cos I liked it well enough but NOPE, Atlus needed some lunch money so just give that fan teat ONE MORE SQUEEZE but I'm gonna do it cos I gotta see and you KNOW THIS SO WELL AND YOU ARE loving ME ATLUS, YOU ARE LITERALLY loving ME RIGHT NOW. 
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May 2, 2014 18:51
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Unmature posted:Yeah, 3 and 4 can be creepy, but neither capture that dreadful, MegaTen-esque tone of 1 and 2. A lot of it has to do with Kaneko's art. I honestly don't think Persona 1 or either of the Persona 2 games had good stories/characters. Personas 3 and 4 really are a very different thing to the rest of the series though.
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May 2, 2014 18:51
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I had almost convinced myself a P3 remake wouldn't be so bad as long as we for some extra FeMC content but I almost prefer this because the rage the anime announcement provided is so, so, so sweet. It's amazing.
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May 2, 2014 18:51
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W.T. Fits posted:I love Marie, if only for the amount of goonrage she inspires in this thread. It really is hilarious. Goons hated her before they even knew anything about her. I remember a post that went something like "It makes no sense to add a new character. Everyone will just be like 'Hey we were friends forever and ever and you were always meant to be here. Which is stupid.' Then it came out and they went "God this character that is intentionally terrible is so terrible!" because apparently they don't understand she isn't supposed to be super special awesome and we're supposed to just shudder in disbelief over how teenager she is.
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May 2, 2014 18:54
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Pretty much lol if you think for a moment that anything besides' Marie's poems were intended to be awful and not just a product of awful writing.
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May 2, 2014 18:56
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Len posted:It really is hilarious. Goons hated her before they even knew anything about her. I remember a post that went something like "It makes no sense to add a new character. Everyone will just be like 'Hey we were friends forever and ever and you were always meant to be here. Which is stupid.' thats is exactly what happened though, and marie is treated as super special awesome
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May 2, 2014 18:57
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When I played P4G everyone just seems to be like "Oh hey its Yu and Marie, what's up guys?" and "Oh Marie? She's cool I guess."
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May 2, 2014 18:58
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Marie is a pretty bad character, but even as someone who dislikes her, I think the rage she invokes is hilarious.
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May 2, 2014 19:00
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Yeah, I don't recall characters fawning over Marie as much as goons claim they do as well. She's kind of an annoying cliché, granted, but not nearly as much as she's said to be.
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May 2, 2014 19:01
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MrAristocrates posted:I had almost convinced myself a P3 remake wouldn't be so bad as long as we for some extra FeMC content but I almost prefer this because the rage the anime announcement provided is so, so, so sweet. It's amazing. Right? Nothing pleases me more these days than watching dorks on the internet get SO mad about a thing they could easily ignore.
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May 2, 2014 19:02
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I remember back when Persona 4 was a good, fun game that people enjoyed and then later were like "Oh yeah Persona 4? Yeah that was a good game" Those were the days
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May 2, 2014 19:03
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Unmature posted:Right? Nothing pleases me more these days than watching dorks on the internet get SO mad about a thing they could easily ignore. This raises the valid question of how many people read this thread that have never played a Megami Tensei game before and never intend to, but enjoy the spectacle.
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May 2, 2014 19:06
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That would take a really sad individual.
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May 2, 2014 19:07
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This is all your guys' fault anyway for complaining about double Chie. Now they have to fix it!
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May 2, 2014 19:08
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I actually have a huge soft spot for Persona 1, I think that although the story starts out really badly, it is one of the better uses of what I see as the main series theme of people's inner thoughts/fantasies becoming manifest physically and what happens when the ideal fairy tale-type world inside a character's head becomes entangled with the real world. Characters aside, P3 always feels like the weakest one to me plot wise because it is the only game in the series that doesn't really substantially deal with this theme, and was just based on the Persona 1 intial premise "science experiment gone wrong" and never really gave an interesting other dimension to all the supernatural goings-on besides the initial novelty factor of the dark hour/tartarus. It also pulls off a great ominous atmosphere, a large part of it is owed to the original soundtrack. I think that changing the whole soundtrack and opening FMV in the PSP version took away from this a lot. Even the goofy US localization is just kind of charmingly cheesy. It is also the first Persona/SMT game I ever played, so I guess there is that bias. I don't think I could actually play it today though, there's just so many mechanically awkward janky things about it, probably first and foremost the grid combat. I didn't get very far in Soul Hackers even though it was the first 3DS game I bought, just because it was so janky and dated, so I doubt I could stand actually playing P1 today. Weirdly, even though I sat through the whole stream and was really grossed out/disappointed with it, the P3 movie recap thing at the beginning kind of made me want to dust off one of the persona games.
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May 2, 2014 19:10
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derra posted:This is all your guys' fault anyway for complaining about double Chie. What is double Chie, some kind of animation error in the P4 animation? I got bored with the show and stopped watching halfway through.
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May 2, 2014 19:12
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asvodel posted:What is double Chie, some kind of animation error in the P4 animation? I got bored with the show and stopped watching halfway through. Chie appears twice in one shot.
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May 2, 2014 19:13
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Double Chie.
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May 2, 2014 19:13
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asvodel posted:What is double Chie, some kind of animation error in the P4 animation? I got bored with the show and stopped watching halfway through. At one point during that scene where they eat watermelons with Nanako Chie is sitting on the deck with Yu and Nanako and a mysterious person who looks identical to Chie in every way is sitting inside with the rest of them. It is a mysterious plot element that the anime really underutilizes. I had Doppelganger Chie pegged as the killer the entire time personally.
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May 2, 2014 19:14
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So is it supposed to be a whole new 26 episode run, or what?
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May 2, 2014 19:16
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alcharagia posted:At one point during that scene where they eat watermelons with Nanako Chie is sitting on the deck with Yu and Nanako and a mysterious person who looks identical to Chie in every way is sitting inside with the rest of them. It is a mysterious plot element that the anime really underutilizes. I had Doppelganger Chie pegged as the killer the entire time personally. It's Shadow Chie.
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May 2, 2014 19:18
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I still wish EP got ported to PSP.  I liked Innocent Sin. Persona 1 was interesting, even if its age really showed.
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May 2, 2014 19:22
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It did though? It just wasn't released outside of Japan.
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May 2, 2014 19:22
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You can buy the PS1 classic of the english version as well.
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May 2, 2014 19:23
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TurnipFritter posted:So is it supposed to be a whole new 26 episode run, or what? I assume so, since it's getting a TV showing in Japan. How that manifests itself is yet to be seen.
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May 2, 2014 19:24
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Nobody should've complained about Double Chie, more Chie is always good. Also, Marie is a really bad character who they seriously wanted you to like because they dedicated an entire dungeon to her, gave her an individual boss theme, and even add her to the overall group. I don't hate her with the anger I used to hate her, but it's not like people overreact when they say she's a garbage character, because she is.TurnipFritter posted:So is it supposed to be a whole new 26 episode run, or what? If this is a new 26 episodes I will laugh every time this show is brought up, a whole new anime for the sake of just adding Golden's stuff would be hilarious.
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May 2, 2014 19:27
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Hey guys I was talking to my contact in Japan (dude kept diving for my nuts) and I got this still of Marie's new costume for the Golden anime!
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May 2, 2014 19:30
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So no SMTxFire Emblem or nothing, just a remake of a bad anime that isn't even that old. They literally made an anime to keep forcing Marie down our throats.
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May 2, 2014 19:31
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Alteisen posted:So no SMTxFire Emblem or nothing, just a remake of a bad anime that isn't even that old. For those of you wondering, this is how lead writers say "gently caress you".
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May 2, 2014 19:34
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This series could really use a talking dog.
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May 2, 2014 19:34
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New version of persona 4 that replaces Marie with Koromaru. Day 1 purchase.
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May 2, 2014 19:35
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More Marie spin-offs. More! Spice must flow! 
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May 2, 2014 19:35
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Get Platinum to make a spin-off game with Marie set 7 years in the future where shadows have taken over and she's been turned into a cyborg.
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Orgia Carnaval posted:This series could really use a talking dog. Oh man, Koromaru, our canine lord and savior, please save us from this day of misdirected and somewhat disappointing announcements! Atlus, if you make a Nintendogs-like mobile app with Koromaru, all is forgiven.
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