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Looks like Max may not be so sure he's only going to get a short term, still, at least this'll mean he gets regular day trips out of prison to go to court, and that's always a nice break from staring at the wall http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/may/03/max-clifford-faces-new-allegations-as-more-accusers-come-forward
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DPD are the most useless company ever. I literally just had a van pull up outside, not even get out of the van, then say they attempted to deliver the parcel and drove off. The only logical conclusion I can make is that Sam Beckett chose that exact moment to leap into the driver's body, assumed the only reason he could possibly be in a delivery van is to make a delivery, figured he already attempted it and decided to play along.
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May 3, 2014 11:33
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BBC news says he got 8 years.
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May 3, 2014 11:34
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Ddraig posted:DPD are the most useless company ever. I literally just had a van pull up outside, not even get out of the van, then say they attempted to deliver the parcel and drove off. My crowning moment was catching a DPD driver putting a "While you were out" slip through my door by opening the door while he was putting it through.
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May 3, 2014 12:02
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Some years ago, Citylink attempted to deliver something to me. I was in all day apart from a moment when I popped to the shop for some milk (next door but one at the time). That evening the vendor's website listed delivery attempted, but I hadn't had a card. I happened to be off the next day, so I contacted Citylink to tell them to try again. The next day I still didn't get my parcel - or a card. Complained at Citylink again, and was told that delivery had been attempted "at the white door, no answer, left card". Can you guess what colour my door wasn't? The nearest white door, if I remember right, was five doors down. Mine had a very visible house name and number next to it, as did most of my neighbours. The next day they delivered to the right place, amazingly.
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May 3, 2014 12:24
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Something similar happened with one of our customers. We were trying to send some goods to a frequent customer who needed them to complete a job pretty desperately and for two days in a row they didn't receive their goods. Because we use Interlink you can actually look at the photos of the doors that the drivers take to verify delivery and it turns out the driver was trying to deliver to the back door, a back door that clearly had a sign on it saying 'Please do not deliver to this door, deliver to the front door.'.
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May 3, 2014 12:43
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Brovine posted:Some years ago, Citylink attempted to deliver something to me. I was in all day apart from a moment when I popped to the shop for some milk (next door but one at the time). That evening the vendor's website listed delivery attempted, but I hadn't had a card. I happened to be off the next day, so I contacted Citylink to tell them to try again. I had a very similar story happen, except mine was 3 days of them failing to deliver, followed by the citylink depot's supervisor having to personally drive out to deliver the item at 7:30pm, handing me the parcel and muttering 'that poo poo is so fired'.
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May 3, 2014 12:57
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Daily Mail have topped themselves. They're actually shocked that pro wrestling is scripted. (Warning, DM link)
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May 3, 2014 14:14
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Seaside Loafer posted:BBC news says he got 8 years. 4 years custodial, 4 years suspended (is my understanding).
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May 3, 2014 14:32
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:Daily Mail have topped themselves. Don't get my hopes up like that.
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May 3, 2014 14:42
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a pipe smoking dog posted:4 years custodial, 4 years suspended (is my understanding). Except that the link I posted earlier suggests CPS are building a second case against him from other abuse victims.
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May 3, 2014 14:47
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In deliverychat, there was a card through the door from the company saying they'd tried to deliver a laptop when I was out. The card said they'd left it in a safe place. This is apparently a safe place:  Though to be fair to them, in order to deter thieves they had hidden it: 
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May 3, 2014 14:56
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a pipe smoking dog posted:4 years custodial, 4 years suspended (is my understanding). He got 8 years - he will serve 4 in prison and 4 under probation supervision in the community. He may also be eligible for parole prior to the 4 year mark. The fact that the sentence is 8 years is important, as if he does anything that breaks his licence conditions or is deemed risky he can be recalled to prison any time up until the 8 years is up.
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May 3, 2014 15:05
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Shakespearean Beef posted:Why would i put effort into this garbage thread that allows chodes like you to post in it freely lol I don't know man, you put a lot into World of Warcraft?
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May 3, 2014 15:24
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Robot Mil posted:He got 8 years - he will serve 4 in prison and 4 under probation supervision in the community. He'll serve 8 inside if he continues on his current path of not admitting guilt and showing no contrition.
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May 3, 2014 15:32
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TheHoodedClaw posted:He'll serve 8 inside if he continues on his current path of not admitting guilt and showing no contrition. He won't, he showed contrition in his mitigation filing. What he says to the media means diddly when it comes to what he says to the court/parole board, and he only has to show contrition for like 30 seconds behind closed doors. e: assuming there's even a parole hearing - a 75yo man on crimes ~30 years old? they'll probably rubber stamp it without even a hearing. SybilVimes fucked around with this message at 15:43 on May 3, 2014 |
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May 3, 2014 15:39
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Can the parole board take public comments into account?
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May 3, 2014 15:48
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thehustler posted:Can the parole board take public comments into account? AFAIK only witnesses or victims from the original crime
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May 3, 2014 15:54
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TheHoodedClaw posted:He'll serve 8 inside if he continues on his current path of not admitting guilt and showing no contrition. That means nothing, you don't have to admit your crime to get released at the halfway point - it's automatic if your behaviour within custody is ok and there is no evidence that you are an imminent risk to the public. Even for life sentenced prisoners denial is not an automatic barrier to release. thehustler posted:Can the parole board take public comments into account? Public opinion can be a thing and witness/victim statements are likely to be made available to people doing risk assessments on him. They won't want to be seen to make a 'bad' decision as this is a notorious case. However random members of the public who have no real details of the case and no knowledge of risk don't make decisions about parole for a reason.
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May 3, 2014 16:11
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thehustler posted:Can the parole board take public comments into account? Dangerous road to go down. If you're unpopular this shouldn't matter in the application of criminal justice, to be honest. No matter how poo poo that can be.
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May 3, 2014 16:13
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Semprini posted:In deliverychat, there was a card through the door from the company saying they'd tried to deliver a laptop when I was out. The card said they'd left it in a safe place. Inconspicuous.
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May 3, 2014 16:16
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I'm going to sit patiently and wait for the right wing media to scream about soft sentencing and how he should be put away forever and just because he's a rich white guy with dirt on everyone doesn't mean he's above the law.
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May 3, 2014 16:25
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Semprini posted:In deliverychat, there was a card through the door from the company saying they'd tried to deliver a laptop when I was out. The card said they'd left it in a safe place. I don't get it, where's the laptop in the second picture?
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May 3, 2014 16:30
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The worst part of the British mail service is definitely the ridiculous customs fees for importing. How am I supposed to fill my room with anime boob figures if Parcelforce keep slapping a £40-60 charge on top of everything I order?
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May 3, 2014 17:18
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Broniki posted:The worst part of the British mail service is definitely the ridiculous customs fees for importing. How am I supposed to fill my room with anime boob figures if Parcelforce keep slapping a £40-60 charge on top of everything I order? By having the sender write a customs declaration that it's a gift and slapping it on the box rather than an indication of how much it cost. Hell, the Singaporean pharmacy that provides my grey market drugs does it without me even asking.
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May 3, 2014 21:00
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DesperateDan posted:By having the sender write a customs declaration that it's a gift and slapping it on the box rather than an indication of how much it cost. Hell, the Singaporean pharmacy that provides my grey market drugs does it without me even asking. Cool tax evasion bro!
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May 3, 2014 21:08
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Postal vote for the EU election came today. 11 parties listed. 3 openly racist, 3 'UKIP' racist, 1 'UKIP of the left', the usual suspects and the Greens. gently caress this country. Each party had a little motto beneath it's name, some samples: "I'm English, NOT British, NOT EUropean", "Zero Immigration, Anti-EU". Also  at An Independance from Europe "UK Independence Now" sitting at the top of the ballot with UKIP proper towards the bottom.
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May 3, 2014 21:13
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Malcolm XML posted:Cool tax evasion bro! That would just be avoidance, wouldn't it? It's using a legal provision to avoid tax.
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May 3, 2014 21:37
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Pasco posted:Postal vote for the EU election came today. I checked the parties listed in my area earlier today and you've just reminded me I need to ask the thread how correct the SPGB is, because the only conscionable choice I have is them or the Greens.
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May 3, 2014 21:40
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Hijo Del Helmsley posted:That would just be avoidance, wouldn't it? It's using a legal provision to avoid tax.
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May 3, 2014 21:44
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My experience with city link was an embarrasing one for the driver. I will give him this, he found the right address, and got out of his van. I saw him pull up through my front window so went to the door to greet him. I was able to open the door before he got to the door, just as he was bending over to put the "you were not in" note through the door. I politely asked for the parcel as I was there to collect, to which he sheepishly had to admit that it wasn't even loaded on the van. As a trip to the local office was still required, I gave the manager there both barrels. I also hen vowed to stop using any company that used citylink, telling them the reason why I wasn't using their services any more.
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May 3, 2014 22:06
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Yeah that's what I've heard is unofficial standard procedure for most parcel deliveries: if something doesn't fit in the vehicle, just write out a card, post it and scarper.
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Malcolm XML posted:Cool tax evasion bro! totally! I feel entirely on a par with a firm like vodaphone dodging 6 billion in taxes because I missed a few quid tax on buying medicines online, with such a wily scam as not declaring it myself retrospectively because the pharmacy didn't bother and just stuck gift in the box. criminal loving mastermind here, had to pay a crooked financial advisor (bought a pint for my dad) and buy lunches at hmrc (once dated a call centre operator from there), no holds barred. Next up, I'm going to gloat about that time I distilled some cider by freezing, didn't calculate ABV and send the taxman his due! you can compare me to the drinks industry and everything! Or, there was that time when I got overpaid JSA by like three quarters of a pittance and didn't get caught... Or one time I was hunting but it was technically poaching and...
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May 3, 2014 22:14
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Pasco posted:Also Soon it'll be "111 Party for English Independance!" followed the election after by "!!!1 for Home Counties Independence" and so on and so forth.
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Robot Mil posted:Public opinion can be a thing and witness/victim statements are likely to be made available to people doing risk assessments on him. They won't want to be seen to make a 'bad' decision as this is a notorious case. However random members of the public who have no real details of the case and no knowledge of risk don't make decisions about parole for a reason. You kill three policemen and you aint ever getting out. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Roberts_(criminal) The criminal justice system magically changes when the police are killed as we can also see from the long running Blakelock fiasco. The magic also seems to work the other way too, it protects the police when they kill people from even the whiff of an accusation of murder.
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Pasco posted:Postal vote for the EU election came today. Oh i don't know, with any luck the knuckle-draggers will split the vote and render themselves irrelevant.
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DesperateDan posted:totally! I feel entirely on a par with a firm like vodaphone dodging 6 billion in taxes because I missed a few quid tax on buying medicines online, with such a wily scam as not declaring it myself retrospectively because the pharmacy didn't bother and just stuck gift in the box. criminal loving mastermind here, had to pay a crooked financial advisor (bought a pint for my dad) and buy lunches at hmrc (once dated a call centre operator from there), no holds barred. Tell it to customs when they open a package that's marked "gift" but has a commercial invoice in it. Also, if the value is over £36 you have to pay import VAT on it.
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Malcolm XML posted:Tell it to customs when they open a package that's marked "gift" but has a commercial invoice in it. I suspect that if he's really importing prescription drugs from Singapore then failing to pay the import duty will be the least of his worries.
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Malcolm XML posted:Tell it to customs when they open a package that's marked "gift" but has a commercial invoice in it. Like you have never paid someone cash in hand.
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Chocolate Teapot posted:Soon it'll be "111 Party for English Independance!" followed the election after by "!!!1 for Home Counties Independence" and so on and so forth. I was surprise it was allowed to be alphabetical rather than randomised. Even pollsters know about 'list bias' and switch up the order of the parties to try and remove it. Deptfordx posted:Oh i don't know, with any luck the knuckle-draggers will split the vote and render themselves irrelevant. We can but hope, though as this election is under PR that might just end up with more of these pricks getting elected.
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