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This is still the best analysis on Bridgewater. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2026233-nfl-draft-2014-remembering-why-teddy-bridgewater-is-a-top-qb-prospect
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Aniki posted:I'm also curious about the claims that the offense was designed for the QB to make simple reads, so if true, I am not sure how big of a concern that is. It is pretty much a requirement for me that a QB needs to be able to go through their progressions, because watching the past few years of Ponder made it clear how horrible it is for a QB to just make a read before the snap and just stare down the receiver. You know the sick part is that Jimbo's offense at FSU that Ponder ran in college is wayyyyy more complex than most NFL offenses.
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@mortreport 5m Another "surprise" QB team to watch: Bengals, even though there are needs at CB & DL. Teddy Bridgewater is in discussion as fallback option lol andy dalton
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OperaMouse posted:Boy, did that RB #28 miss his block, while 3 linemen are blocking #73. Sharrif Floyd owns. You know who else owns? Dominique Easley. He's going to be awesome if his ligaments can stay in place for a bit.
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Ehud posted:@mortreport 5m Are they aware that Bridgewater isn't a ginger?
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This throw is real beautiful and maybe the best "show a gif of a prospect to show how good he is" gif I've seen.
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Zerilan posted:This throw is real beautiful and maybe the best "show a gif of a prospect to show how good he is" gif I've seen. That looks like Drew Brees to me.
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May 3, 2014 15:08
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Ehud posted:@mortreport 5m This would not surprise me at all, like I've posted before, I don't think they'll trade up or anything but if a top 3 QB is sitting there at 24 I think they have to think long and hard about it
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Where is Jeremiah Attouchu expected to go in this draft? I just got finished rewatching Geogia Tech's game against Georgia and I remember whenever I watched Tech he was very impressive.
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This looks reaaaal similar to a certain play from the 2007 NFCCG, only Bridgewater doesn't funsling the ball. edit: 
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May 3, 2014 16:49
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I don't think I've seen a Favre playoff interception where he wasn't throwing across his body while running the opposite way.
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May 3, 2014 16:57
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Quest For Glory II posted:I don't think I've seen a Favre playoff interception where he wasn't throwing across his body while running the opposite way. True, but it was just so magic to watch, especially that game.
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I finished a draft of a draft pick boom/bust analysis (using Doug Drinen's career approximate value/CAV: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=525). This is basically a slightly updated/different version of what Kevin Meers did here: http://harvardsportsanalysis.wordpress.com/2011/11/30/how-to-value-nfl-draft-picks/ Data are from the 1980-2006 drafts. Average CAV starts falling off after 2006 because players haven't been in the league long enough to assess their career, though you could get a couple/few more recent years in there with an adjustment if you had to. I dumped everything after pick# 250, so we're looking at 7 rounds + a little into 8 pre-1993. Data from here: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/. Finally, for some reason the vast majority of CBs and FS/SSs were all called "DBs" in the dataset. I am going to post an updated version of this on my website at some point and I'll update that and have more to say about each graphic. If I get time I'll do a quick look at how different teams have drafted differently. Let's start with what kind of Career Approximate Value you see at Draft, by Draft position.  That QB at pick 199 is, of course, Tom Brady. The distribution is very bottom-heavy no matter where you slice it, but the first pick average CAV is ~67, your average pick CAV~=16, and your median pick CAV~=6. Breaking that down by position:  Drinen wisely didn't let any K or P or FB have a stratospheric CAV  TE would probably look different in recent years/will look different going forward. First thing that jumps out at me is that your best bet, historically, late in the draft are Guards and Centers, and they're similar positions so that higher plateau might not be a fluke.So when have teams tended to pick which position?  This isn't a great graphic, and a lot of it is "no duh" stuff. Most of the action is in the first line segment (difference between picks 1-25 and 26-50), and this would be my summary: -Positions that were disproportionately selected in early/mid round 1: QB, T, RB, DE -Positions that were disproportionately NOT selected in early/mid round 1: LB, DB, G, C, TE -Positions that were rarely picked early, mostly picked later in the draft: P, K, FB -Positions that were selected steadily through draft: WR, DT Not sure if that plunge in late-round-7 flyers on LBs and DBs is due to a pre/post-1993 difference or what. So splitting the CAV by position sort-of looked at boom/bust potential, but let's approach that in a more focused way. Here is a plot with the players at CAV "deciles" (20% = better CAV than 20% of players at that pick and worse CAV than the other 80% at that pick), with lines fitted to each decile.  One could make a case for different definition of a bust pick or boom pick, but I went with: Bust: Below the "30%" curve OR CAV <=1. (Late in the draft more than 30% of picks are CAV <=1) Boom: Above the "70%" curve AND CAV AT LEAST 15 (Late in the draft less than 30% of picks are CAV >=15) Middling: Everything else Note that this means an average player picked in round 7 is a boom pick, while an average player picked in round 1 is a bust. The overall picture is the following:  Finally, let's look at the proportion of boom/busts by draft pick window and position:  QBs were the most prone to boom/bust (have the thinnest green ribbon), unsurprisingly. Early picks on TEs and RBs have been prone to bust. OLs drafted early rarely bust, as IcePhoenix suggested. Punter(s) have been selected in picks 25-50 before  (still looking at this last one, happy for suggestions / feedback)
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That early drop in FB value is interesting to me- it looks like that is the position with the greatest fluctuation from 1-25 to 26-50. Is that just a sample size thing or something?
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BougieBitch posted:That early drop in FB value is interesting to me- it looks like that is the position with the greatest fluctuation from 1-25 to 26-50. Is that just a sample size thing or something? Yeah, sample size. It's comparing these 2 guys: Year Rnd Pick Name CAV 1983 1 13 James Jones 42 1986 1 15 John Williams 66 With these 4: 1991 1 27 Jarrod Bunch 7 1994 1 28 William Floyd 22 1999 2 43 Rob Konrad 9 1990 2 42 Carwell Gardner 7
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May 3, 2014 18:03
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Democrazy posted:Where is Jeremiah Attouchu expected to go in this draft? I just got finished rewatching Geogia Tech's game against Georgia and I remember whenever I watched Tech he was very impressive. CBS Sports Big Board: #51 Fanspeak Big Board: #37 WalterFootball Big Board: #78 SB Nation Big Board: #50 Bleacherreport Big Board: #88 Draftek Big Board: #28 Nolan Nawrocki's Big Boaahahahaha just kidding So probably 2nd round, give or take 
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Democrazy posted:Where is Jeremiah Attouchu expected to go in this draft? I just got finished rewatching Geogia Tech's game against Georgia and I remember whenever I watched Tech he was very impressive. Early 2nd round projection, in several mock drafts.
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May 3, 2014 18:18
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Democrazy posted:Where is Jeremiah Attouchu expected to go in this draft? I just got finished rewatching Geogia Tech's game against Georgia and I remember whenever I watched Tech he was very impressive. Watch the Cardinals in the second. Looks like a great fit to me.
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Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:This would not surprise me at all, like I've posted before, I don't think they'll trade up or anything but if a top 3 QB is sitting there at 24 I think they have to think long and hard about it
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Pangstorm: That's awesome, I'm still looking over a lot of it, but I'm sure that took you a lot of time, it's got some very interesting stuff in there. I'd love to see some of the positional CAV scatterplots in a larger size/set out individually.
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Internet rumors making the rounds today that the Patriots are going to "blow the top off" of the draft with a monster trade involving ... Ryan Mallett. Thursday had better be tomorrow 
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May 3, 2014 19:57
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Coldforge posted:Internet rumors making the rounds today that the Patriots are going to "blow the top off" of the draft with a monster trade involving ... Ryan Mallett.
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Ehud posted:Sharrif Floyd owns. I want the Niners to snag him with one of their 5 Day 2 picks and stash him on the shelf while he heals up so bad. Carradine-Easley interior DL of the future, baby. Coldforge posted:Internet rumors making the rounds today that the Patriots are going to "blow the top off" of the draft with a monster trade involving ... Ryan Mallett. There's no way in hell Ryan Mallet with one more year on his contract figures to substantially change the landscape of this draft in any way. Especially since Lombardi's not running the Browns anymore.
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All that means is that one of the teams in the top 10 might trade for Mallett with a day 3 pick and then won't draft a qb in the top 10, so technically it would alter how the top 10 plays out, but not significantly.
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Coldforge posted:Internet rumors making the rounds today that the Patriots are going to "blow the top off" of the draft with a monster trade involving ... Ryan Mallett. Are you referring to this? I can't find anything anywhere actually about Mallett or any teams dumb enough to trade for a QB on the last year of his rookie contract. @LRiddickESPN Hearing rumblings of a potential draft day trade that could blow the top off of the draft involving a QB.
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Bigass Moth posted:Are you referring to this? I can't find anything anywhere actually about Mallett or any teams dumb enough to trade for a QB on the last year of his rookie contract. Chiefs trade Smith for a top ten pick and get Teddy or Football 
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May 3, 2014 20:15
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Who needs a good, young, cheap, not drug riddled quarterback when you can have Ryan Mallett on the last year of his deal?
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Bigass Moth posted:Are you referring to this? I can't find anything anywhere actually about Mallett or any teams dumb enough to trade for a QB on the last year of his rookie contract. That was the nucleus of it, yeah. It ballooned from there.
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quote:"Everything I'm hearing is pretty good right now. I'm hearing no later than the third (round), so hopefully it plays out that way," Tajh Boyd told SiriusMX NFL Radio. I always get really sad when agents get their players expectations too high.
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May 3, 2014 20:34
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Rip Jevan Snead.
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Rip Jevan Snead. Future #1 overall draft pick Jevan Snead lmfao
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Someone is trying to convince me that Clowney is actually a huge bust and only had a great year in 2012 because it was Devin Taylor's senior year, and with him gone Clowney has obviously been exposed.  Is it Thursday yet?
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Has anyone NOT been dissected and nitpicked? I don't think I've heard anyone talking themselves out of Khalil Mack or the top 2-3 OL prospects yet.
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CVagts posted:Has anyone NOT been dissected and nitpicked? I don't think I've heard anyone talking themselves out of Khalil Mack or the top 2-3 OL prospects yet. Well, if you're looking for a Devil's Advocate... -Mack: Struggled against not-terrible OTs in his games against Ohio State and Baylor -Robinson: Might be really bad at pass-pro and some have questioned his ability to understand a more complex offense than what Auburn ran -Matthews: Short arms Of the three, I only agree somewhat with the first.
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May 3, 2014 20:55
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The only people dumb enough to trade for Mallet are the Browns. Unfortunately based off past experiences.... Also that gif about Bridgewater is pretty drat good. In the NFL defensive coordinators may make him pay with disguised coverages if he has a tendency to do something like that, but it absolutely proves he has the ability to make the throw to a spot to buy that quarter to half second needed to make a reciever be open. Bridgewater will have one of the top three careers (barring injury) out of all the QBs in this draft. I guarantee.
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waah posted:Bridgewater will have one of the top three careers (barring injury) out of all the QBs in this draft. I guarantee. That's probably not saying much though. I'm really not impressed with the QB class this year though, much like last years class none of them really jump out at me.
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